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Tuesday, July 23, 2019

Please read this story about MLB Trade Rumors before they aggregate it

The site, which relies on scoops from the sport’s top news breakers (and the daily churn from beat writers), remains a one-stop shop for aggregation and analysis, which can make it seem like a relic from a pre-Twitter internet. It also garnered 287 million page views in 2018, which set a record for the site, according to Dierkes. 

In terms of pure clicks, MLB Trade Rumors rivals Baseball-Reference as the second-most trafficked baseball-only site in the world behind MLB.com, depending on when you look. Yet its reach goes beyond inconsistent traffic metrics or page views. 

Royals general manager Dayton Moore is a regular reader, looking for transactions he might have missed. So, too, is Mariners GM Jerry Dipoto, known for his active style and sheer volume of trades. Dipoto estimated that put him in the “100th percentile among baseball ops execs.” And it’s not just front office members. Nationals ace Max Scherzer was once a “pretty fanatical fan” earlier in his career, turning into an MLBTR junkie after being dealt from Arizona to Detroit. Agents check in, too. And one time, in the early days of the site, Dierkes stumbled upon Rangers general manager Jon Daniels in a hotel lobby at the GM Meetings.

Daniels offered a simple greeting: Good work, man.

 

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 23, 2019 at 06:59 AM | 25 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: July 23, 2019 at 07:19 AM (#5864089)
I would, but it’s behind a paywall.
   2. The Duke Posted: July 23, 2019 at 07:46 AM (#5864091)
MLBTR is basically the Drudge Report of baseball. They do a fabulous job of getting things up real time
   3. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: July 23, 2019 at 09:44 AM (#5864115)
So, too, is Mariners GM Jerry Dipoto [a regular reader], known for his active style and sheer volume of trades.


He's probably just looking up the deals he forgot he'd made that morning.
   4. JJ1986 Posted: July 23, 2019 at 09:45 AM (#5864116)
MLBTR is basically the Drudge Report of baseball. They do a fabulous job of getting things up real time
That explains a lot.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 23, 2019 at 11:36 AM (#5864159)
I'm kind of surprised that GMs read it to catch up on transactions, for some reason I thought there was an email listserv or something that announced MLB transactions.
   6. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: July 23, 2019 at 12:17 PM (#5864181)
I'm kind of surprised that GMs read it to catch up on transactions, for some reason I thought there was an email listserv or something that announced MLB transactions.


I'd bet there is but part of the reason MLBTR is popular with fans is they don't have to wait for a deal to be official before discussing it. By the time RedSox.com has announced a deal I've read it at MLBTR, the Globe and a half dozen Twitterati. Presumably the internal network works much the same way.
   7. PreservedFish Posted: July 23, 2019 at 12:26 PM (#5864187)
What I've always wondered is how often a GM will email 28 others saying "The Royals have offered me X for Y, who wants to beat it?"
   8. Master of the Horse Posted: July 23, 2019 at 12:38 PM (#5864193)
7-- Since no email exchanges ever get pushed to the media I have to think these things are very phone centric, no?
   9. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: July 23, 2019 at 12:44 PM (#5864199)
Is it just me or is anyone else driven nuts by the MLBTR "house-style" for writing?

I like them as a clearinghouse for aggregating breaking news and rumors, but the writing is long-winded and uses weird lexicon and extraneous clauses. It takes forever to get to any actual information beyond the headline.

A recent random example:
"It’s not really evident at this point precisely which players have been chatted about between the San Francisco and Tampa Bay orgs. Frankly, it’s possible to imagine quite a few different scenarios that might conceivably be of interest."
could be
"It's unknown which players the Giants and Rays have discussed, although several scenarios could be of interest."

Just a personal pet peeve, or shared by other MLBTR readers?
   10. Rally Posted: July 23, 2019 at 01:34 PM (#5864218)
Since no email exchanges ever get pushed to the media I have to think these things are very phone centric, no?


Mostly text messages these days.
   11. RoyalFlush Posted: July 23, 2019 at 01:47 PM (#5864222)
What I've always wondered is how often a GM will email 28 others saying "The Royals have offered me X for Y, who wants to beat it?"


Who would ever deal with a GM that does that?
   12. I am Ted F'ing Williams Posted: July 23, 2019 at 02:00 PM (#5864228)
Is it just me or is anyone else driven nuts by the MLBTR "house-style" for writing?


It isn't just you. I find myself looking at it only on the phone because frankly all the useful information is in the headlines and the accompanying articles are a waste of time except on injury updates.
   13. vortex of dissipation Posted: July 23, 2019 at 02:45 PM (#5864251)
I like them as a clearinghouse for aggregating breaking news and rumors, but the writing is long-winded and uses weird lexicon and extraneous clauses. It takes forever to get to any actual information beyond the headline.

A recent random example:
"It’s not really evident at this point precisely which players have been chatted about between the San Francisco and Tampa Bay orgs. Frankly, it’s possible to imagine quite a few different scenarios that might conceivably be of interest."
could be
"It's unknown which players the Giants and Rays have discussed, although several scenarios could be of interest."

Just a personal pet peeve, or shared by other MLBTR readers?


I'm English, and that way of writing/thinking seems natural to me. To me, it sound much more "real" than the abbreviated way of writing/thinking than Americans tend to use. I tend to use the passive voice much more than Americans do. I realize that's just a cultural difference, and that Americans do not feel the same way. I'm not trying to infer that either way is "better". But my point is that it sounds to me that whomever is writing these blurbs might be a naturalized American who grew up in Britain.
   14. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: July 23, 2019 at 03:26 PM (#5864263)
But my point is that it sounds to me that whomever is writing these blurbs might be a naturalized American who grew up in Britain.


The style is common across all writers on the site, so it has to be an enforced house style or a naturally-evolved group style.

Anyway, I'm complaining on the internet about the prose on free content, so I'll shut up now.
   15. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 23, 2019 at 03:31 PM (#5864268)
the abbreviated way of writing/thinking than Americans tend to use
Heh. Sadly, abbreviated thinking is indeed all too common in America these days.
   16. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: July 23, 2019 at 03:53 PM (#5864275)
the abbreviated way of writing/thinking than Americans tend to use

Heh. Sadly, abbreviated thinking is indeed all too common in America these days.


And as of this morning, apparently in Britain, too. What is it with wacko leaders and bad hairstyles?
   17. PreservedFish Posted: July 23, 2019 at 04:24 PM (#5864288)
"It’s not really evident at this point precisely which players have been chatted about between the San Francisco and Tampa Bay orgs. Frankly, it’s possible to imagine quite a few different scenarios that might conceivably be of interest."


That just sounds like someone writing off the top of his head, and not going back to edit.

(I use way too much passive voice, and don't mind it much, but "have been chatted about by" is a particularly egregious example.)
   18. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 23, 2019 at 04:28 PM (#5864290)
It was learned by me in law school that passive voice should never be used by anyone in writing.
   19. Hysterical & Useless Posted: July 23, 2019 at 04:34 PM (#5864294)
Seems to me if the character or narrator you're creating is a passive sort of person, using the passive voice for them would be an excellent style choice.
   20. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 23, 2019 at 04:40 PM (#5864297)
Seems to me if the character or narrator you're creating is a passive sort of person, using the passive voice for them would be an excellent style choice.
Indeed. I wish that law-school "proper writing" mandates had any consideration whatsoever for any such nuances.
   21. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 23, 2019 at 04:44 PM (#5864300)

the abbreviated way of writing/thinking than Americans tend to use


"Me mechanic not speak English. But he know what me mean when me say “car no go”, and we best friends. So me think: why waste time, say lot word when few word do trick?"
-Kevin Malone, The Office
   22. Dr. Vaux Posted: July 23, 2019 at 06:59 PM (#5864331)
Passive voice is very useful if not over used. Sometimes it's the smoothest way to express something. It is also useful rhetorically to convey detachment, which can be important. It's gotten to the point where my students are surprised when I say anything other than that it should never be used.
   23. PreservedFish Posted: July 23, 2019 at 07:28 PM (#5864341)
It was learned by me in law school that passive voice should never be used by anyone in writing.


It is also useful rhetorically to convey detachment, which can be important.


So it wasn't a lawyer that came up with "mistakes were made"?
   24. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: July 23, 2019 at 07:58 PM (#5864346)

That just sounds like someone writing off the top of his head, and not going back to edit.

Proving the adage, "I didn't have time to write a short letter so I wrote a long one."
   25. Hank Gillette Posted: July 24, 2019 at 03:05 AM (#5864475)
In terms of pure clicks, MLB Trade Rumors rivals Baseball-Reference as the second-most trafficked baseball-only site in the world behind MLB.com, depending on when you look.


I’m sure I am not the typical user, but I probably access Baseball-Reference at least 20-30 times for every time I go to MLB.com.

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