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Tuesday, February 26, 2013

Posnanski: Youk As Yank: Just kind of weird

Screw “Boss Tom” Pendergast…Pos is spreading his reach everywhere!

Hey, it’s my first post on Hardball Talk. Very exciting. I still cannot believe that Calcaterra and Gleeman didn’t save the “Jeff Francoeur is in the best shape of his life” post for me.

Kevin Youkilis plays for the New York Yankees now. I’m not typing those words as a fact. I’m typing those words to remind myself — kind of like that guy in Memento, who would tattoo integral facts on his body because he had no short term memory. Every few seconds, it seems, I forget all about Youkilis, and then some story or Tweet will cross my consciousness, and I’ll think, “Wait, what, Kevin Youkilis plays for the Yenkees now?”

I’m not quite sure why the Youkilis thing throws me.* I feel like I’ve largely grown numb to the temperamental and capricious ways of sports free agency. It really didn’t take me too long to get used to Peyton Manning in a Broncos uniform or Albert Pujols in an Angels uniform or even LeBron James in a Miami uniform. Josh Hamilton as an Angel? Got it down already.

*What Youkilis thing? Let me read back … wait, what, Kevin Youkilis plays for the Yankees now?

So this Youk as Yank thing shouldn’t be that hard to get used to. If we all could get used to Michael Jordan in a Washington uniform and Jerry Rice in a Raiders uniform and Greg Maddux in a Dodgers uniform and, heck, Wade Boggs in a Yankees uniform, there seem no real boundaries left. But for some crazy reason, Youkilis in a Yankees uniform just doesn’t quite compute for me. It isn’t that I have any personal connection to Youkilis. It isn’t that I could only see him in a Red Sox uniform — heck, I didn’t see any real incongruity when he played for the White Sox last year.

But for some reason Kevin Youkilis playing for the Yankees — wait, what, Kevin Youkilis plays for the Yankees now? — just triggers that cable TV “recording conflict” fiber in my brain.

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   1. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: February 26, 2013 at 02:31 PM (#4376393)
I sense a new BTF meme.
   2. deputydrew Posted: February 26, 2013 at 03:05 PM (#4376418)
I wouldn't expect this sort of reaction from Pos. I mean, he's written for like ten different outlets in the last three or four years, right?
   3. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: February 26, 2013 at 03:26 PM (#4376432)
I wouldn't expect this sort of reaction from Pos. I mean, he's written for like ten different outlets in the last three or four years, right?


I didn't read it as a criticism of Youk or the Yankees, merely an acknowledgement that there is something odder than just the usual team change. He gives a number of pretty good examples in the piece of other player/team combos that just seemed odd (e.g. Rose/Expos).

As a Red Sox fan I certainly see it. Youk resonated in Boston like very few players. He was for the most part incredibly popular even if the majority of fans didn't realize just how great a player he was. One of the things I'm curious about is if he'll play on Sunday in Ft. Myers. There's a guy who every year at Spring Training would unleash this loud series of noises that sounded like a truck starting and then finish off with a robust "YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUK" every time Youk came to the plate. I suspect the series of noises were him actually saying something but I could never make it out. Anyway, I'll be interested if the guy still does it.
   4. John M. Perkins Posted: February 26, 2013 at 03:36 PM (#4376437)
Killebrew played for the Royals?
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:01 PM (#4376461)

– Patrick Ewing with the Orlando Magic. Ugh.


That was odd. For me, Patrick will always be a Sonic.

All "Weird to See in That Uniform" team:

C Gary Carter, Giants (or Dodgers)
1B Tony Perez, Phillies
2B Joe Morgan, Phillies
3B Eddie Matthews, Astros (or Tigers)
SS Mark Belanger, Dodgers
LF Willie Horton, Mariners
CF Duke Snider, Giants; Willie Mays, Mets
RF Dwight Evans, Orioles
DH Harmon Killebrew, Royals
SP Steve Carlton, Twins (or White Sox or Indians or Giants)
RP Trevor Hoffman, Brewers

You could do a complete team of Athletics alone

C Mike Piazza
1B Willie McCovey
2B Joe Morgan
3B Ron Cey
SS Nomar Garciaparra
LF Billy Williams or Tim Raines or Zach Wheat
CF Ty Cobb
RF Rocky Colavito
DH Frank Thomas
SP Tommy John
RP Rich Gossage
   6. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:05 PM (#4376467)
I always assume every player will eventually be a Raider. Jerry Rice in a Seahawk uniform is the strange one for me.
   7. JJ1986 Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:10 PM (#4376470)
I like the early career weird ones like Bobby Bonilla as a White Sox (White Sock?).
   8. tfbg9 Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:20 PM (#4376473)
How about Orlando Cepeda and Juan Marichal as Red Sox?
   9. depletion Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:22 PM (#4376475)
RF Babe Ruth, Braves
   10. smileyy Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:24 PM (#4376476)
I thought it was weird when Brett Butler went from the Giants to the Dodgers (hated rivals!) but I only started really following baseball in 1988. I kind of assumed that Brett was a long-term Giant, when in fact, he only spent 3 years there.
   11. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:30 PM (#4376481)
SS Ozzie Smith, Springfield
   12. DA Baracus Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:30 PM (#4376482)
   13. Ray (RDP) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:32 PM (#4376483)
All "Weird to See in That Uniform" team:

C Gary Carter, Giants (or Dodgers)
1B Tony Perez, Phillies
2B Joe Morgan, Phillies
3B Eddie Matthews, Astros (or Tigers)
SS Mark Belanger, Dodgers
LF Willie Horton, Mariners
CF Duke Snider, Giants; Willie Mays, Mets
RF Dwight Evans, Orioles
DH Harmon Killebrew, Royals
SP Steve Carlton, Twins (or White Sox or Indians or Giants)
RP Trevor Hoffman, Brewers


How many games would this team win, at that stage of their ability level?
   14. The District Attorney Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:34 PM (#4376488)
He gives a number of pretty good examples in the piece of other player/team combos that just seemed odd (e.g. Rose/Expos).
Rose:Expos::Poz:Sports on Earth
   15. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:34 PM (#4376490)
I thought it was weird when Brett Butler went from the Giants to the Dodgers (hated rivals!) but I only started really following baseball in 1988. I kind of assumed that Brett was a long-term Giant, when in fact, he only spent 3 years there.


I started watching in 1982. I had "Reggie Jackson was a Yankee?" and "Carlton Fisk was a Red Sox?" moments when ESPN would show old World Series highlights.
   16. andrewberg Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:36 PM (#4376491)
I always wanted a Mike Piazza Marlins jersey.

Hakeem Olajuwon is sort of a perfect storm of a highly respectable player on a completely cartoonish team.
   17. DA Baracus Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:41 PM (#4376495)
How many games would this team win, at that stage of their ability level?


Excellent question. Their WAR that season, or first season with the team if they were there for a few years:

C Gary Carter, Giants 1.6 (or Dodgers) 1.1
1B Tony Perez, Phillies 0.2
2B Joe Morgan, Phillies 3.0
3B Eddie Matthews, Astros (or Tigers) 1.6 combined
SS Mark Belanger, Dodgers 0.1
LF Willie Horton, Mariners 0.9
CF Duke Snider, Giants -0.7; Willie Mays, Mets 1.6
RF Dwight Evans, Orioles 0.5
DH Harmon Killebrew, Royals -0.3
SP Steve Carlton, Twins (or White Sox or Indians or Giants) Best was 0.6 on White Sox, all others were negative.
RP Trevor Hoffman, Brewers 2.1
   18. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:41 PM (#4376496)

I like the early career weird ones like Bobby Bonilla as a White Sox (White Sock?).


Trevor Hoffman, Marlins
Paul Konerko, Reds, Dodgers
Ryne Sandberg, Phillies
Bobby Abreu, Astros
Curt Schilling, Orioles
Randy Johnson, Expos
Pedro Martinez, Dodgers

And he never made it in the big leagues with them, but Josh Hamilton, Rays


I started watching in 1982. I had "Reggie Jackson was a Yankee?" and "Carlton Fisk was a Red Sox?" moments when ESPN would show old World Series highlights.


Yea, I had the same thought reading Pos's piece. For me as a kid, Tony Dorsett was a Bronco. I was surprised to find out when I got older he had made his name as a Cowboy.
   19. Dale Sams Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:42 PM (#4376497)
And he's playing for $12mill.
   20. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:42 PM (#4376498)
Stephen Malkmus, The Jicks
   21. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:50 PM (#4376507)
Jerry Rice in a Seahawk uniform is the strange one for me.


NFL ones:

Joe Namath, Rams
Franco Harris, Seahawks
Eric Dickerson, Falcons, Raiders
Johnny Unitas, Chargers
Emmitt Smith, Cardinals
Reggie White, Panthers
OJ Simpson, 49ers
Donovan McNabb, Redskins, Vikings
Cris Carter, Dolphins
Brett Favre, Jets, Vikings

Weird early careers:
Brett Favre, Falcons
Jerome Bettis, Rams
Priest Holmes, Ravens
Wes Welker, Dolphins
Cris Carter, Eagles
   22. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:52 PM (#4376509)
For me as a kid, Tony Dorsett was a Bronco. I was surprised to find out when I got older he had made his name as a Cowboy.


Actually, he made his name as a member of the Pittsburgh Panthers.

-- MWE
   23. Nasty Nate Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:56 PM (#4376514)

I like the early career weird ones like Bobby Bonilla as a White Sox (White Sock?).



Trevor Hoffman, Marlins
Paul Konerko, Reds, Dodgers
Ryne Sandberg, Phillies
Bobby Abreu, Astros
Curt Schilling, Orioles
Randy Johnson, Expos
Pedro Martinez, Dodgers


Hanley Ramirez, Red Sox
   24. Tom Nawrocki Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:00 PM (#4376517)
SP Steve Carlton, Twins (or White Sox or Indians or Giants) Best was 0.6 on White Sox, all others were negative.


Who remembers that Steve Carlton and George Foster were teammates on the White Sox?
   25. JJ1986 Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:08 PM (#4376525)
Wes Welker, Dolphins


Much more weird: Wes Welker, Chargers.
   26. Tom Nawrocki Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:11 PM (#4376527)
Johnny Unitas, Steelers, although I don't think he got into a regular season game with them.
   27. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:11 PM (#4376528)
Earl Campbell, New Orleans Saints
   28. smileyy Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:12 PM (#4376530)
Paul Konerko, Reds


I remembered that Cincinnati had acquired him, but I forgot that he had played games for them, before they flipped him for Mike Cameron (choosing Sean Casey as their 1B of the future, instead)
   29. Tracy Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:26 PM (#4376538)
   30. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:26 PM (#4376539)
Warren Moon, Chiefs
Joe Montana, Chiefs
   31. tfbg9 Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:35 PM (#4376545)
Roger Clemens, Wade Boggs, Yankees. Sigh.
   32. vortex of dissipation Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:41 PM (#4376548)
If Yogi Berra hadn't had a long career as a coach/manager with the Mets, seeing him as a player with them (for all of four games) would have been strange. Warren Spahn as a Met does look wierd.

Lou Piniella as a Seattle Pilot looks very strange...
   33. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:42 PM (#4376550)
what do the following players have in common?


Jim Kaat
Bert Campaneris
George Scott
Aurelio Rodriguez
Gaylord Perry
Rick Reuschel
Lee Mazzilli
Butch Hobson
Omar Moreno
   34. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:47 PM (#4376557)

Lou Piniella as a Seattle Pilot looks very strange..."


What about as a Cleveland Indian? Baltimore Oriole? Washington Senator?
   35. vortex of dissipation Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:48 PM (#4376560)
what do the following players have in common?


They were all Yankees?
   36. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:50 PM (#4376561)
correct, VOD--they were all picked up in the frantic Steinbrenner early 80's
   37. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:56 PM (#4376569)

correct, VOD--they were all picked up in the frantic Steinbrenner early 80's


Ewing Kauffman did this as well. Harmon Killebrew, Orlando Cepeda, Gaylord Perry, Vida Blue, Cesar Geronimo, Vada Pinson, Bill Buckner, George Scott, Lee May, Floyd Bannister, Bob Boone, Jose Cardenal all spent the tail end of their career in KC.
   38. zack Posted: February 26, 2013 at 06:00 PM (#4376575)
what do the following players have in common?

They've never played for my living room?
   39. smileyy Posted: February 26, 2013 at 06:03 PM (#4376579)
[38] And yet, remarkably, they *have* been in your kitchen.
   40. Mayor Blomberg Posted: February 26, 2013 at 06:08 PM (#4376584)
Phil Esposito, Rangers. never got used to that.
   41. Chris Fluit Posted: February 26, 2013 at 06:31 PM (#4376601)
I'm glad someone else branched into hockey. I never got used to seeing Sergei Fedorov in a Ducks or Blue Jackets jersey. There's also Wayne Gretzky as a Blue for the mid-career way station, Chris Pronger as a Whaler for the strange starter team and Bobby Orr as a Blackhawk for the end of the career swan song.
   42. Squash Posted: February 26, 2013 at 06:58 PM (#4376630)
You could do a complete team of Athletics alone

C Mike Piazza
1B Willie McCovey
2B Joe Morgan
3B Ron Cey
SS Nomar Garciaparra
LF Billy Williams or Tim Raines or Zach Wheat
CF Ty Cobb
RF Rocky Colavito
DH Frank Thomas
SP Tommy John
RP Rich Gossage


You forget Tris Speaker, a Philly Athletic in his final year in the show, as well as Dick Allen. Speaker goes to center I would guess, pushing Ty Cobb to right and Rocky Colavito to the bench. Dick Allen starts over Cey at third if we ignore defense, with which that lineup we probably don't really care about too much. Willie McGee was also an Athletic for two months. The one year on the A's thing for stars at the end of the rope is a weird one, given that it's been going on pretty much forever and continues today.

Jackie Robinson was also almost a Giant (famously retired rather than accept a trade), which would have been maybe the all-time one.
   43. Squash Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:02 PM (#4376633)
I'm glad someone else branched into hockey. I never got used to seeing Sergei Fedorov in a Ducks or Blue Jackets jersey.

Hockey almost doesn't count - there's so much player churn even among stars. And Sergei is my all time favorite hockey guy for some reason. He also signed that big free agent deal with Carolina in the middle of the Red Wings' run - that would have been a weird one as well.
   44. yo la tengo Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:27 PM (#4376653)
Re #20
This would be fun to explore a bit, wouldn't it? The army of odd 'super' groups make some odd matches
Jimmy Page & The Firm jumps out
   45. spike Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:36 PM (#4376658)
Dale Murphy, Philadelphia Phillie. Just as sad to write today as it was to watch then.
   46. Ziggy Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:39 PM (#4376661)
Late to the party, but I'm going to add Christy Matthewson, Reds. We'll have to ask Harvey how strange that one was to see.
   47. Spahn Insane Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:40 PM (#4376665)
Edmonds as a Cub. He was a fun part of that '08 team, though.
   48. Tom Nawrocki Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:48 PM (#4376672)
Dale Murphy, Philadelphia Phillie. Just as sad to write today as it was to watch then.


Not as sad as Dale Murphy, Colorado Rockie.
   49. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:54 PM (#4376675)
Edmonds as a Cub. He was a fun part of that '08 team, though.

Not even his weirdest NL Central team - he played for both the Reds and Brewers in 2010.

Scott Rolen as a Blue Jay. I think it's the fact that his other three teams all have red uniforms.
   50. Kurt Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:55 PM (#4376677)
Phil Esposito, Rangers. never got used to that.

Whereas I'm of an age and fanhood where I only remember Esposito as a Ranger. Same with some of the players listed in #33.
   51. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:57 PM (#4376679)
I like the early career weird ones like Bobby Bonilla as a White Sox (White Sock?).


Danny Ainge, Blue Jays.
   52. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:59 PM (#4376681)
This would be fun to explore a bit, wouldn't it? The army of odd 'super' groups make some odd matches
Jimmy Page & The Firm jumps out


Or we could merge the two concepts, and end up with The Nuge (or Tommy Shaw) as Damn Yankees.
   53. Tom Nawrocki Posted: February 26, 2013 at 08:00 PM (#4376682)
Dale Murphy, Philadelphia Phillie. Just as sad to write today as it was to watch then.


Not as sad as Dale Murphy, Colorado Rockie.
   54. Perry Posted: February 26, 2013 at 08:33 PM (#4376697)
Will Clark, Cesar Cedeno, and John Smoltz as Cardinals. Dale Murphy and Bret Saberhagen as Rockies.
   55. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: February 26, 2013 at 08:45 PM (#4376703)
This would be fun to explore a bit, wouldn't it? The army of odd 'super' groups make some odd matches

Terence Trent D'Arby with INXS.
   56. vortex of dissipation Posted: February 26, 2013 at 08:49 PM (#4376707)
   57. yo la tengo Posted: February 26, 2013 at 09:01 PM (#4376712)
Joe Strummer with the Pogues

   58. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: February 26, 2013 at 09:04 PM (#4376713)
There are probably a million of these but Tommy Stinson with Guns-n-Roses comes immediately to mind.
   59. Urkel's Boner Posted: February 26, 2013 at 09:39 PM (#4376726)
Johnny Marr in Modest Mouse - talk about slumming it.
   60. tfbg9 Posted: February 26, 2013 at 09:51 PM (#4376734)
Lawrence Oliver on Match Game '77?

OK, I made that up. But he was in The Betsy.
   61. Sonic Youk Posted: February 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM (#4376740)
There are probably a million of these but Tommy Stinson with Guns-n-Roses comes immediately to mind.


this is my all time favorite. Also, Chris Mars is a legitimately famous enough artist that I've randomly come across his stuff a few times without seeking it out.
   62. Eric Ferguson Posted: February 26, 2013 at 10:18 PM (#4376742)
Courtney Love in Faith No More
The parking attendant from Ferris Bueller's Day Off in Sonic Youth
Randy Savage in the minors
   63. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: February 26, 2013 at 10:35 PM (#4376750)
Manny Ramirez, EDA Rhinos
   64. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: February 26, 2013 at 11:19 PM (#4376770)
Randy Moss on the 49ers.
   65. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: February 26, 2013 at 11:33 PM (#4376776)
Randy Moss on the 49ers.

The correct answer was "Randy Moss on the Titans."
   66. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: February 26, 2013 at 11:36 PM (#4376777)
johnny depp in nightmare on elm street !

hunter pence in a giants uniform !

where is pac-man when you need him ... ... ..................
   67. joyjoykid Posted: February 27, 2013 at 12:51 AM (#4376794)
I still need time to be used to Pos in NBC.
   68. BochysFingers Posted: February 27, 2013 at 01:13 AM (#4376799)
Todd Rundgren with the Cars.
Bruce Hornsby with the Grateful Dead.
Roy Orbison, Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, Jeff Lynne and George Harrison as the Travelin' Wilburys.
   69. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: February 27, 2013 at 01:42 AM (#4376806)
Daryl Hall with Robert Fripp.

Laura Nyro with Labelle.

Peter Frampton with the Pogues.

Linda Ronstadt and Jack Bruce with the Jazz Composer's Orchestra.
   70. Ellis Valentine's Bright Future Posted: February 27, 2013 at 01:42 AM (#4376807)
Sammy Hagar, Van Halen is the one that ended my childhood.

(Though Ian Gillan with Black Sabbath really rased some new questions in my mind.)

   71. BochysFingers Posted: February 27, 2013 at 01:47 AM (#4376812)
for an early career oddity, Sheryl Crow singing backup for Michael Jackson.
   72. Good cripple hitter Posted: February 27, 2013 at 02:18 AM (#4376819)
Mike Watt playing bass on a Kelly Clarkson album.

In a slightly different vein, finding out that David Johannson was the man behind "Hot Hot Hot".
   73. Boogie Nights Powell Posted: February 27, 2013 at 02:48 AM (#4376828)
Mick Jagger singing backup for Carly Simon on "You're So Vain"?
   74. Drexl Spivey Posted: February 27, 2013 at 02:58 AM (#4376829)
for an early career oddity, Sheryl Crow singing backup for Michael Jackson.


Nothing will ever top Jimi Hendrix backing Little Richard when it comes to early career oddities.
   75. depletion Posted: February 27, 2013 at 09:32 AM (#4376880)
Jimi Hendrix backing Little Richard

To me, this one made a lot of sense. Hendrix was a "for hire" guitarist for whatever R&B band needed a top guy. Jimi probably learned a lot from Richard: showmanship, moustache design, intensity. In an interview available online Richard describes having the Beatles as his opening act in England, then going home and hiring Hendrix for a tour.
   76. depletion Posted: February 27, 2013 at 09:33 AM (#4376881)
Tommy Herr as a Met, after years of heated Cards-Mets contests.
Mookie Wilson as a Blue Jay.
   77. OsunaSakata Posted: February 27, 2013 at 10:02 AM (#4376894)
I always wanted a Mike Piazza Marlins jersey.


It was funny to see him in the parade of ex-Marlins after the last Florida game at Sun Life Stadium.
   78. Ron J2 Posted: February 27, 2013 at 10:41 AM (#4376919)
Eric Clapton in a country album (White Mansions)
   79. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2013 at 10:42 AM (#4376920)
Andre Dawson as a Marlin. I think at one point while he was playing for them he even said he wanted to go in the HOF as a Marlin.
   80. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: February 27, 2013 at 10:45 AM (#4376922)
Who remembers that Steve Carlton and George Foster were teammates on the White Sox?


I remember that the Sox had just started advertising (or maybe it was just their announcers were talking about it a lot) that they were the youngest team in MLB. Then they signed 41-year-old Steve Carlton and George Foster, who was officially 37 but whose baseball skills were much older than that.
   81. Tom Nawrocki Posted: February 27, 2013 at 11:02 AM (#4376931)
In an interview available online Richard describes having the Beatles as his opening act in England, then going home and hiring Hendrix for a tour.


The teenaged Billy Preston was in Richard's band on that tour, which is how the Beatles got to know him.
   82. Styles P. Deadball Posted: February 27, 2013 at 11:27 AM (#4376945)
I always wanted a Mike Piazza Marlins jersey.


I remember seeing him appear on some talk show in his Marlins jersey the day or so after the trade. It was that hideous teal green one and I'm pretty sure that the show was taped in LA.
   83. Esoteric Posted: February 27, 2013 at 12:12 PM (#4376972)
Daryl Hall with Robert Fripp.
And amazingly enough it was a really strong collaboration. Seriously, Sacred Songs (the Darryl Hall solo LP that was a collaboration with Fripp) is quite magnificent: weirdly accessible Crimsonesque avant-garde with Hall's gorgeous voice over top it all. Hall also contributed vocals to Fripp's solo album Exposure around that time.

No kidding, people, check it out. If you like King Crimson from either '72-'74 or '81-'84, you'll really enjoy the album.
   84. beer on a stick Posted: March 01, 2013 at 09:19 PM (#4378699)
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   85. beer on a stick Posted: March 01, 2013 at 09:20 PM (#4378702)
Eric Clapton in a country album (White Mansions)


pah...How about Neil Young and the "International Harvesters?"
   86. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: March 01, 2013 at 10:07 PM (#4378725)
Hall also contributed vocals to Fripp's solo album Exposure around that time.

That's how I know about it. Good stuff.

Also, Rick James and Neil Young.
Michael Jackson and Eddie Van Halen.
Michael Jackson and Vincent Price.
Fontella Bass ("Rescue Me") with the Art Ensemble of Chicago.
Miles Davis with Kool Moe Dee.
Jack White and Loretta Lynn.
George Jones and Gene Pitney.
   87. Morty Causa Posted: March 01, 2013 at 10:19 PM (#4378730)
Ted Williams playing for the Yankees? He says that might have been. After his final year in Boston, he says in his autobiography, the Yankees during the offseason offered him a cool $100K to just pinch hit for them in 1961. He was titillated but decided to pass. Now, that would have been something.
   88. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: March 02, 2013 at 12:14 AM (#4378783)
Ted Williams playing for the Yankees? He says that might have been. After his final year in Boston, he says in his autobiography, the Yankees during the offseason offered him a cool $100K to just pinch hit for them in 1961. He was titillated but decided to pass. Now, that would have been something.

Given that the 1961 Yanks set their all-time club record with 10 pinch hit home runs, I'm not sure how much added value that extra $100,000 would've given them on the field, although he might have made it up at the box office.
   89. Ebessan Posted: March 02, 2013 at 12:25 AM (#4378787)
And amazingly enough it was a really strong collaboration. Seriously, Sacred Songs (the Darryl Hall solo LP that was a collaboration with Fripp) is quite magnificent: weirdly accessible Crimsonesque avant-garde with Hall's gorgeous voice over top it all. Hall also contributed vocals to Fripp's solo album Exposure around that time.

Absolutely agreed.

Johnny Marr in Modest Mouse - talk about slumming it.

It really was beneath Isaac to hire that old washout.

(The BEST Johnny Marr post-Smiths membership is when he was a Happy Monday for literally twenty minutes after the Ryder brothers kidnapped him, to take to Barbados where they proceeded to release maybe the most disastrous album of all time, but not before letting Marr go because they had forgotten that they were going to hire him. Shaun Ryder is the greatest terrible rock star ever.)
   90. Morty Causa Posted: March 02, 2013 at 12:31 AM (#4378794)
My post had to do with the topic being discussed, which had to do with how weird it would be for certain players to be on certain teams.

But, on the point you raised, I've never heard of a team that thought it had too many pinch hit homers (or pinch hit hits). And, yes, the Yankees would have gotten back at least $100K in publicity and at the box office.
   91. Obo Posted: March 02, 2013 at 01:07 AM (#4378838)
Tammy Wynette and the KLF.

As a Blue Jay fan, it was weird having Jack Morris, Dave Winfield, Dave Stewart, Paul Molitor and Rickey Henderson on our side when they'd been big stars for rival teams for so long.

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