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Tuesday, November 13, 2018

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-13-2018

Memphis News Scimitar, November 13, 1918:

MAY SELL CARDS TO KANSAS CITY

When major league baseball is resumed, the home games of the St. Louis Nationals will be played in American league park in the Mound city unless they are played in Kansas City, Phil Ball, president of the St. Louis American league club, said after a conference with B.B. Johnson, president of the American league today.

Ball said that he had been approached by Cardinal stockholders who asked whether they could lease the Browns’ park for games next summer. Ball said that he advised the sale of the club to Kansas City sportsmen, who are said to be eager to get into major league baseball.

Sounds to me like Ball just wanted his competition to leave town, rather than the Cardinals themselves looking to relocate.

Anyway, the Cards stayed in Robison Field through all of 1919 and part of 1920 before they reached a deal to move into Sportsman’s Park.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 13, 2018 at 10:01 AM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 13, 2018 at 10:04 AM (#5786454)
A couple of players are badly out of position on today's Birthday Team. Wes Parker has a reputation as a magnificent defensive first baseman, but he's in right because Steve Bilko played three career games in the outfield. Johnny Kling is a catcher playing left field because Laird played a total of four career innings as an outfielder.

C: Gerald Laird (6.4 WAR)
1B: Steve Bilko (5.0 WAR)
2B: Alex Kampouris (7.2 WAR)
3B: John Kroner (0.3 WAR)
SS: Asdrubal Cabrera (26.2 WAR)
LF/Manager: Johnny Kling (24.9 WAR)
CF: Josh Devore (3.0 WAR)
RF: Wes Parker (22.9 WAR)

SP: Mel Stottlemyre Sr. (43.2 WAR)
SP: Pat Hentgen (32.7 WAR)
SP: Dan Petry (17.3 WAR)
SP: Ted Wilks (16.5 WAR)
SP: Wade Miley (9.2 WAR)
RP: Gene Garber (16.9 WAR)

Frontier League success story: Jason Simontacchi
Fun names: Podge Weihe, Nick Goulish
Prospects: Chris Devenski (4.8 WAR), Arodys Vizcaino (3.4 WAR)
   2. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 13, 2018 at 10:21 AM (#5786469)
Steve Bilko was a legendary minor league slugger, hitting 55 and 56 homers for the Los Angeles Angels in 1956 and 1957.
   3. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: November 13, 2018 at 10:38 AM (#5786480)
Steve Bilko was a legendary minor league slugger, hitting 55 and 56 homers for the Los Angeles Angels in 1956 and 1957.

who played at Wrigley Field, LA--the same place he played his last 2 seasons in MLB
   4. BDC Posted: November 13, 2018 at 10:41 AM (#5786484)
Today's box-score-line records feature guys who went 2-for-5 without driving in a run. 2-for-5 is a pretty good day, but one theme that connects the trivia answers is Outs Made, because these record-holders made a lot of them.

Most times with the exact ab/r/h/bi line, regular season since 1908, trivia in bold:

5 0 2 0 and 5 1 2 0 are held by the same player, 50 of the former and 76 of the latter. He led his league in Outs Made four times and finished second twice. He's 69th in career Outs Made though only 89th in Plate Appearances

5 2 2 0 : (30 times): the only player to make 10,000 outs, though he never led his league

5 3 2 0 : (six times): when the 5020/5021 guy wasn't leading his league in Outs Made, this fellow was. Over one six-year span, each of them led the league in Outs Made three times. The 5320 guy once held the single-season record for Outs Made (530), which stood for many years until the 1962 expansion, and has rarely been topped since

5 4 2 0 : it's been done 28 times, most recently by Starling Marte in 2017

5 5 2 0 : Barney McCosky did this in 1947, though apparently B-Ref does not have game details, so I can't spell out exactly how
   5. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: November 13, 2018 at 11:07 AM (#5786501)
5220 - Pete Rose
   6. BDC Posted: November 13, 2018 at 11:08 AM (#5786502)
Rose is correct!
   7. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 13, 2018 at 11:21 AM (#5786512)
5 0 2 0 and 5 1 2 0 : Luis Aparicio?
   8. crict Posted: November 13, 2018 at 11:25 AM (#5786515)
5 5 2 0 : Barney McCosky did this in 1947, though apparently B-Ref does not have game details, so I can't spell out exactly how


Retrosheet has the details:
1st inning: out, 1000
3rd inning: reaches on error, scores, 2100
5th inning: doubles and scores: 3210
6th inning: walks and scores 3310
7th inning: bunt single and scores, 4420
9th inning: fielder's choice and scores, 5520.

A's won 16-2 over the Browns. (They trailed 2-1 in the 5th inning).
   9. BDC Posted: November 13, 2018 at 11:26 AM (#5786517)
5 0 2 0 and 5 1 2 0 : Luis Aparicio?


Earlier than Aparicio, and not a Hall of Famer.

And thanks, crict! A unique game for McCosky.
   10. PreservedFish Posted: November 13, 2018 at 11:41 AM (#5786540)
ROE, BB, Hit, FC

They say there are seven (or eight) ways to reach first base: what's the record for most different ways employed in a single game by a single player?
   11. BDC Posted: November 13, 2018 at 11:56 AM (#5786554)
I think that on PI I can only search for four times-on-base results (H, HBP, BB, ROE). So it would be just luck if I came across a game among those where somebody did all four, where they also reached another way. There are those here with far greater searching powers than mine :)

Reaching those four ways is fairly common; it was done several times last year. I also found this game where Steve Bilko did it, to tie some threads together. Kind of an amazing game; tied in the 11th in extra innings, Bilko beat out what's listed as a bunt single, Jim Fregosi ran for him and scored the winning run on a hit by Leon Wagner.
   12. crict Posted: November 13, 2018 at 12:18 PM (#5786582)
Well not quite the same, but here's an article examining when the 7 ways were used in a single game, and it happened 6 times between 1945 and 2012: link.
   13. Chris Fluit Posted: November 13, 2018 at 12:29 PM (#5786591)
Sam Rice
   14. RJ in TO Posted: November 13, 2018 at 12:35 PM (#5786597)
Doc Cramer, for the 5 0 2 0 and 5 1 2 0 lines.

His career is kind of amazing. 8.4 WAR in 9927 PA, off of a 0.296/0.340/0.375 (87 OPS+) career line, with no notable value on the bases (62 SB vs 73 CS), and blandly generic defense. His major skills seems to have been staying healthy, and not getting drafted during WW2.
   15. Sweatpants Posted: November 13, 2018 at 12:57 PM (#5786618)
Cramer was a very good contact hitter as well, kind of a poor man's Lloyd Waner.
   16. BDC Posted: November 13, 2018 at 02:07 PM (#5786675)
Cramer is correct! Now we just need the guy who duelled him annually for the Outs Made title.
   17. KJOK Posted: November 13, 2018 at 07:26 PM (#5786972)
No place on the team for Buck O'Neil?
   18. Hysterical & Useless Posted: November 15, 2018 at 01:47 PM (#5787957)
who played at Wrigley Field, LA--the same place he played his last 2 seasons in MLB


The Angels moved into Dodger Stadium in '62 (Bilko's last year).

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