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Friday, November 16, 2012

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-16-2012

San Francisco Call, November 16, 1912:

Jean Dubuc, star pitcher of the Detroits during the last season, admits that he has received an offer from a representative of the Paris club of the French Union Baseball league to coach that nine for a period of five years, the sum offered being $3,000 more than he has asked the Detroit club to give him next season.
...
Dubuc asked the Detroit club for an increase in salary next season, and has no doubt that his request will be granted.

This seems like something Dubuc fabricated in order to pressure the Tigers to give in to his salary demands, but I guess it’s plausible.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 16, 2012 at 06:19 AM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dugout, history, international, jean dubuc

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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 16, 2012 at 06:29 AM (#4304059)
Not a ton of offense on today's Birthday Team, but they've got a pretty good ace starter. They've just gotta make sure nobody leaves Burke hanging when he tries to give them a high five.

C: Harry Chiti
1B: Ivy Griffin
2B: Frank Bolling
3B: Rollie Zeider
SS: Julio Lugo
LF: Morrie Arnovich
CF: Don Hahn
RF: Glenn Burke

SP: Dwight Gooden
SP: Paul Foytack
SP: Bill McGee
SP: Chris Haney
SP: Buster Narum
RP: Tim Scott

Designated Runner: Herb Washington
Designated Beneficiary of Nepotism: Pete Rose Jr.
Designated Awful Indians Pitcher Of My Youth: Curt Wardle
   2. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: November 16, 2012 at 07:44 AM (#4304072)
As noted at THT, today also marks the 10th anniversary of a six-player trade between the Marlins and Rockies. Can you remember who any of the players involved were before clicking on the link?

   3. JJ1986 Posted: November 16, 2012 at 08:24 AM (#4304081)
I know Charles Johnson went to Colorado around then.
   4. BochysFingers Posted: November 16, 2012 at 09:04 AM (#4304095)
Curt Wardle... LOL The mid-80's Indians were really something.
   5. There's a bustle in Misirlou's hedgerow Posted: November 16, 2012 at 09:20 AM (#4304108)
Preston Wilson?
   6. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: November 16, 2012 at 09:32 AM (#4304120)
Juan Encarnacion?
   7. Kiko Sakata Posted: November 16, 2012 at 09:39 AM (#4304127)
Did the Marlins-Rockies trade somehow involve Mike Hampton even though he never ended up pitching for the Marlins? I have some vague recollection that the trade that landed him on the Braves(?) involved some team that he never played for paying part of his salary.
   8. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: November 16, 2012 at 09:51 AM (#4304141)
Did the Marlins-Rockies trade somehow involve Mike Hampton even though he never ended up pitching for the Marlins? I have some vague recollection that the trade that landed him on the Braves(?) involved some team that he never played for paying part of his salary.
That was the Marlins. I think that Hampton contract (8 Years, $121 million) doesn't get enough credit as one of the worst ever. For the eight years of the deal, he pitched less than 900 innings with a 4.81 ERA, won just 56 games and missed all of the 2006 and 2007 seasons. That's $135,751 per IP. Brutal.
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 16, 2012 at 10:10 AM (#4304152)
Tim Spooneybarer now. Tim Spooneybarger forever.
   10. Randy Jones Posted: November 16, 2012 at 10:49 AM (#4304198)
Wasn't Juan Pierre in that trade too?
   11. kthejoker Posted: November 16, 2012 at 11:07 AM (#4304215)
Looking up some info on the French Union Baseball league ...
this seems like a pretty neat book.
   12. kthejoker Posted: November 16, 2012 at 11:14 AM (#4304223)
"As late as 1913 there was a team based in the wealthy Paris suburb of Vesinet called Spalding A.C."

Comiskey and McGraw took the White Sox and Giants over on an exhibition tour of Europe in 1914, including stops in Paris ... not the best timing, I guess.
   13. Steve N Posted: November 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM (#4304281)
Are you implying that they caused World War I?
   14. Poster Nutbag Posted: November 16, 2012 at 01:10 PM (#4304336)
Looks like the A's actually got SOMETHING out of Tyson Ross!!!!

Ross + AJ Kirby-Jones to Padres for Parrino and Werner!
   15. winnipegwhip Posted: November 16, 2012 at 01:31 PM (#4304362)
Didn't the Germans get the Schlieffen Plan from hearing how King Kelly ran the bases?
   16. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: November 16, 2012 at 01:58 PM (#4304406)
Melky a Blue Jay! 2/16
   17. Rants Mulliniks Posted: November 16, 2012 at 02:05 PM (#4304416)
Melky a Blue Jay! 2/16


I'm shocked as hell, but I like it.
   18. Random Transaction Generator Posted: November 16, 2012 at 04:11 PM (#4304570)
Melky a Blue Jay! 2/16


This makes me a little mad as it now (retroactively) implies that the Jays could have signed Barry Bonds when he was available after 2007. I always assumed it was because they (as a team) decided they didn't want the steroid stink on them, but this pretty much removes that from the equation.

Collusion!
   19. Walt Davis Posted: November 16, 2012 at 04:48 PM (#4304598)
I'm surprised Melky could land a 2-year contract. And seems like the Jays have decided they've got a window.

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