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Wednesday, November 28, 2012

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-28-2012

A key figure in the Black Sox scandal “retires”, Washington Times, November 28, 1912:

Abe Attell, former featherweight champion, last night announced his retirement from the ring after he had been badly outpointed in a fight with Oliver Kirk, of St. Louis. When the gong sounded at the end of the sixth round…[Attell] announed that he had enough, that he had given “the best that was in him,” and that he was forever through with prize fighting.

Attell fought Kirk again less than four months later. I’m sure the fight referenced above was completely on the level, because a guy like Attell would never have taken money to take a fall in his opponent’s hometown. *snicker*

Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: November 28, 2012 at 07:26 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: November 28, 2012 at 07:33 AM (#4311193)
A bunch of well-known players, but not a particularly great Birthday Team. Righetti is the only starting pitcher on the team with a career ERA+ better than 100, and Williams is the only position player with a career OPS above .800.

C: Wes Westrum
1B: Heinie Peitz
2B: Blackie O'Rourke
3B: Matt Williams
SS: Walt Weiss
LF: Max West
CF: Nook Logan
RF: Sixto Lezcano

SP: Dave Righetti
SP: John Burkett
SP: Pedro Astacio
SP: Carlos Villanueva
SP: Ken Howell
RP: Robb Nen

Manager: Lee Fohl
Fun Names Who Aren't In The Starting Lineup: Molly Craft, Daisy Davis, Purnal Goldy, Roxey Roach
   2. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: November 28, 2012 at 10:37 AM (#4311274)
Heh, who knew that Nook's real name was Exavier Prente Logan?
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM (#4311386)
Phils acquire P Wilton Lopez from Houston for minor leaguers.
   4. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM (#4311398)
Williams is the only position player with a career OPS above .800.


That's a bit unfair to Sixto Lezcano, who had a career OPS of .799 in the offensive dark ages of the late 70s and early 80s, leading to a career OPS+ of 124.

My first impression of Sixto Lezcano comes from one of the first Baseball Abstracts: James wrote that whenever he ran all the numbers, Jerry Remy always came out worse than he expected, and Sixto Lezcano also came out better than he expected.
   5. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: November 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM (#4311410)
pirates pick up c.robinson and v.mazzaro from kc for luis rico and luis santos, dfa navarro and hague
zach stewart also to pit for a ptbnl.

should be a few other moves like these in advance of the non-tender deadline.
   6. Greg K Posted: November 28, 2012 at 01:19 PM (#4311458)
Speaking of minor moves, Indians DFA Rafael Perez. What happened to that guy? He looked pretty good in 2007-2008, but the strikeouts just disappeared.
   7. salvomania Posted: November 28, 2012 at 02:18 PM (#4311546)
Wes Westrum has the distinction of having the highest career OBP relative to his career batting average (minumum 1000 PA).

He had a career .356 OBP while batting just .217 in almost 3000 plate appearances. He had 503 base hits, and 489 bases on balls. In fact, he reached base safely more often by not getting a base hit than he did by getting a hit.
   8. Steve N Posted: November 28, 2012 at 02:45 PM (#4311579)
Max Bishop, lead off hitter for 2 world champions, would be in the running. 1216 hits and 1156 walks. 5789 plate appearances.

Career BA. 271, career OBP .423.
   9. salvomania Posted: November 28, 2012 at 03:38 PM (#4311666)
I think the next closet after Westrum would be Gene Tenace (.241/.388).

Westrum and Tenace are the only two players ever who reached base more via walk/hbp than by base hit during their careers.
   10. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: November 28, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4311682)
Let's not forget Mickey Lolich. 90 career hits and 105 career walks. .110/.215/.121 in 1017 PA.

I mean ... that's unusual. Did he bat 8th and get IBB'd so they could pitch to Ray Oyler?
   11. Steve N Posted: November 28, 2012 at 03:59 PM (#4311688)
Slapsie Maxie also threw in 31 HBP.
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 28, 2012 at 05:04 PM (#4311759)
Orioles acquire 3B Danny Valencia from Boston for cash

A's acquire P Sandy Rosario from Boston for a PTBNL. They DFA OF Jermaine Mitchell.

Rangers acquire P Cory Burns for a PTBNL.

Cubs DFA P Casey Coleman

Mariners release Chone Figgins.
   13. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 28, 2012 at 06:18 PM (#4311822)
BJ Upton signs with Braves

Yankes sign Andy Pettitte 1/$12.5
   14. puck Posted: November 28, 2012 at 06:40 PM (#4311834)
BJ Upton signs with Braves

Yankes sign Andy Pettitte 1/$12.5

Whoa, I like how you slipped the BJ news in there with the Pettitte thing. The FA chips are finally starting to fall.

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