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Thursday, November 30, 2017

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-30-2017

Oklahoma City Times, November 30, 1917:

Frank B. Gilbreth, an efficiency expert of Providence, R.I., recently made some tests as to the speed of a thrown ball. The results of these tests show that the average speed attained by a fast pitcher is about 2.4 miles per minute.
Gilbreth found some exceptionally fast pitchers, who delivered a ball at the rate of 2.88 miles per minute.

Yes, 172.8 MPH is indeed exceptionally fast.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 30, 2017 at 08:02 AM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 30, 2017 at 08:05 AM (#5583190)
Today's Birthday Team has nobody above 35 career WAR, but is still pretty solid. That's a good pitching staff and a great Fun Names Crew.

C: Dave Engle (3.89 WAR)
1B: Craig Wilson (3.5 WAR)
2B: Ray Durham (33.64 WAR)
3B: Barry Evans (0 WAR)
SS: Luis Valbuena (8.92 WAR)
LF: Bo Jackson (8.28 WAR)
CF: Shane Victorino (31.19 WAR)
RF: Matt Lawton (15.04 WAR)

SP: Frank Killen (33.49 WAR)
SP: Firpo Marberry (30.78 WAR)
SP: Bob Tewksbury (21.2 WAR)
SP: Rich Harden (17.6 WAR)
SP: Craig Swan (12.7 WAR)
RP: Steve Hamilton (11.16 WAR)
RP: Juan Berenguer (10.13 WAR)

Fun names: Moose Grimshaw, Mikie Mahtook, Alamazoo Jennings, Win Ballou, Tacks Latimer, Dud Branom
Manager: Mordecai Davidson
Not that one: Carlos Valderrama
   2. PreservedFish Posted: November 30, 2017 at 09:26 AM (#5583226)
SS: Luis Valbuena (8.92 WAR)
LF: Bo Jackson (8.28 WAR)

That seems wrong.
   3. Hank G. Posted: November 30, 2017 at 04:25 PM (#5583693)
Yes, 172.8 MPH is indeed exceptionally fast.

Frank B. Gilbreth, of course, was the efficiency expert written about in the book “Cheaper By The Dozen”. A much better article about how he tried to measure the speed of a pitched ball was in Popular Science.

It’s not clear to me why Gilbreth got such anomalous results. He was aware that the hand-cranked cameras of the time would not give him the accuracy he was looking for, which is why he photographed a timer that made six revolutions per second while filming the pitcher. Perhaps the hand of the timer made two revolutions and the camera only caught one? 86.4 mph does not seem unreasonable, especially since there is no indication that he was using elite pitchers for his tests.
   4. Tom T Posted: November 30, 2017 at 07:02 PM (#5583784)
Perhaps the hand of the timer made two revolutions and the camera only caught one?

Seems most likely.

Betcha Lillian (local U's first female engineering professor; hired once Frank passed away) wouldn't have messed that up!
   5. puck Posted: November 30, 2017 at 09:00 PM (#5583843)
SS: Luis Valbuena (8.92 WAR)
LF: Bo Jackson (8.28 WAR)

That seems wrong.

Bo Jackson has to be one of the more memorable sub 10 WAR careers. Even Mark Fidrych has 11.4 bb WAR.

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