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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-7-2018

Wheeling Intelligencer, November 7, 1918:

Billy Wood says that a friend of his who is a former baseball player has started an eating house and has these signs around the place:

Club Sandwiches.
No Flies Around Here.
Game in Season from April to October.
Fowls Any Style.
Goose Eggs to Order.
Our Waiters Never Go Out on Strikes.
Ice Water in the Pitcher.
Don’t Make a Short Stop. Stay as Long as You Like.
You Can Get Beaned Here.
No Wheat Cakes Today. Batter Out.

I’d like to speak to the manager.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:10 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:11 AM (#5783564)
Today's Birthday Team has a nice pitching staff, but not much in terms of position players. Jim Kaat is fifth among November 7 players in career AB.

C: Jake Gibbs (6.7 WAR)
1B: Dick Stuart (7.8 WAR)
2B: Bill Brubaker (3.2 WAR)
3B: Guy Sularz (0.1 WAR)
SS: Alan Strange (-1.3 WAR)
LF: Danny Santana (0.3 WAR)
CF: Willie Norwood (-1.3 WAR)
RF: Andy Tomberlin (-0.8 WAR)

SP: Jim Kaat (50.7 WAR)
SP: Joe Niekro (29.8 WAR)
SP: Kris Benson (12.9 WAR)
SP: Sonny Gray (12.9 WAR)
SP: Joe Hatten (8.2 WAR)
RP: Todd Ritchie (6.2 WAR)
RP: Glendon Rusch (5.2 WAR)
RP: Dave Fleming (5.3 WAR)
RP: Russ Springer (2.7 WAR)

Owner: Hiroshi Yamauchi
Manager/Broadcaster: Buck Martinez
Fun names: The Only Nolan, Billy Ging
Not that one: Tommy Thompson
   2. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:18 AM (#5783566)
Man, that may be the worst OF we've seen.

Sadly, no good players I haven't heard of. No learning for me today :-)
   3. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:18 AM (#5783567)
Watching the Chiefs game over the weekend, it struck me that there must be other NFL players aside from Patrick Mahomes who are the son of a major league baseball player. But I couldn't think of any others. Suggestions?
   4. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:27 AM (#5783576)
Jared Goff is Jerry Goff's son.
   5. BDC Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:30 AM (#5783578)
there must be other NFL players aside from Patrick Mahomes who are the son of a major league baseball player.


I can't think of any offhand, which means nothing. Shane Buechele, son of Rangers' player and coach Steve Buechele, started at QB for Texas in his freshman and sophomore years, but has lost the job this year and played only sparingly. I guess he'd be a longshot ever to play an NFL game at this point, but who knows.

Aaron Oliver, son of Al Oliver, was a can't-miss football prospect for Texas A&M till felled by an injury.
   6. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:36 AM (#5783583)
Tomberlin is interesting as a somewhat-rare pitcher to position player conversion. (Albeit early in the minors)
   7. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:37 AM (#5783586)
Tomberlin is interesting as a somewhat-rare pitcher to position player conversion. (Albeit early in the minors)

Well, isn't virtually every MLB player a pitcher in HS?
   8. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: November 07, 2018 at 10:53 AM (#5783599)
Sure, but I meant in pro-ball - he pitched his first two seasons. Normally, you start as a position player if there's a chance you'll pan out that way, as moving to pitcher is considered a far simpler transition.
   9. vortex of dissipation Posted: November 07, 2018 at 12:24 PM (#5783688)
Tomberlin is interesting as a somewhat-rare pitcher to position player conversion. (Albeit early in the minors)


Would Stan Musial be the best of those?
   10. PreservedFish Posted: November 07, 2018 at 12:26 PM (#5783689)
Ahem
   11. vortex of dissipation Posted: November 07, 2018 at 12:35 PM (#5783700)
The outfield may be helped by a Japanese Hall-of-Fame centerfielder, Yutaka Fukumoto, who holds the NPB career record for stolen bases. He's second in career runs scored, and at the time of his retirement, held the career doubles record (later broken). His 43 lead-off home runs (out of 208) is also a NPB record. He was Pacific League MVP in 1972. I'm pretty confident in saying that he could start in today's birthday team outfield.
   12. vortex of dissipation Posted: November 07, 2018 at 12:37 PM (#5783702)
Ahem


Oops, missed one. (Insert smiley face).
   13. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 07, 2018 at 12:44 PM (#5783707)
George Sisler is up there too as far as pitcher conversions.
   14. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: November 07, 2018 at 01:07 PM (#5783722)
Kyler Murray's uncle is former Giants/Rangers/Cubs OF Calvin Murray.
   15. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: November 07, 2018 at 01:23 PM (#5783733)
George Sisler is up there too as far as pitcher conversions.


Rube Bressler was not too shabby either, though not at the level of the guy vortex forgot, of course. :-)

Smoky Joe Wood could play

Rick Ankiel

Heck, I feel the Reds should dump Billy Hamilton and just put Michael Lorenzen out there. He slugged .808 this year! :-)
   16. Perry Posted: November 07, 2018 at 02:51 PM (#5783797)
Huh. Dick Stuart wasn't as good as I thought he was. His career was ending -- at a young age -- just when I was becoming a fan, but I always thought of him as a minor star. And I guess he was, for a short while, at least offensively, but man, that defense was apparently every bit as bad as the Dr. Strangeglove nickname would have you believe.

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