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Thursday, November 08, 2012

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-8-2012

El Paso Herald, November 8, 1912:

That story from Montana about Clark Griffith saving his life by beaning an infuriated deer with a rock…is reminicent of the yarn about George Engle, a minor league pitcher up in the northwest, who was getting by on a windup and a prayer.
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[When an opponent with whom Engle had argued] came to bat against George, the shortstop on Engle’s team bustled up to the pitcher and whispered vengefully, “Bean him, George! Bean him!”

George eyed him with withering scorn. “Bean him?” he said, “Bean him? What with?”

Engle’s career record in the Northwest League was 29-10, so he must have been doing something right.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 08, 2012 at 06:17 AM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 08, 2012 at 06:20 AM (#4297697)
A wafer-thin pitching staff on today's Birthday Team. Only four pitchers born November 8 have ever started a game in the majors, and Alvarez started exactly one game. Bryan Shaw is fourth in career innings pitched among November 8 players, with 87.2.

Pretty good outfield, though.

C: Mike Roarke
1B: Jose Offerman
2B: Tony Cuccinello
3B: Edgardo Alfonzo
SS: Jeff Blauser
LF: Ed Kranepool
CF: Wally Westlake
RF: Giancarlo Stanton

SP: John Denny
SP: Bill Hoffer
SP: Gary Lucas
SP: Victor Alvarez
RP: Bryan Shaw

Manager: Bucky Harris
Bat-Girl.com Cult Hero: Little Nicky Punto
   2. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: November 08, 2012 at 08:33 AM (#4297746)
As noted at THT, a member of the Hall of Merit died 100 years ago today. Can you guess who it is before clicking on this link?
   3. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: November 08, 2012 at 09:20 AM (#4297806)
I thought only Bob Boone was idiot enough to play Jose Offerman at 1B. :)
   4. Gch exhales the vast drunken folly of Epicurus Posted: November 08, 2012 at 05:59 PM (#4298461)
Jays signed Maicer Izturis for three years, 9 million dollars. There's an option for another year at 3 million, or a 1 million buyout. This is apparently Alex Anthopoulos' biggest FA signing ever, in terms of guaranteed money.

It's not much money, but I have no idea why you'd give an apparently blah (per bb-ref's numbers) utility guy three years. If I had to guess, I'd say he's somewhere else by the end of 2014.
   5. Walt Davis Posted: November 08, 2012 at 10:43 PM (#4298617)
It's not much money, but I have no idea why you'd give an apparently blah (per bb-ref's numbers) utility guy three years.

It does look like MI might be past his sell-by date but, for his career, he's actually a bit above-average (by bWAR) which means he was an awesome utility guy. He'd likely have been a starting SS for several years if he hadn't landed on the same team as Aybar. But the defensive numbers suggest his time as a passable defensive SS are probably gone and the bat may be in decline. Still, worse guys (Chris Gomez, Juan Castro, Cairo) hung on in this role for ages.

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