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Thursday, December 15, 2011

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 12-15-2011

Canaseraga Times, December 15, 1911:

Undoubtedly the players as a class are today the cleanest body of professional athletes in the new world. In the 70’s the fans used to say: “Aw, they threw the game.”  When does one hear a serious charge of that kind now?
...

As baseball is played today it is practically impossible for questionable operations to creep into the maneuvers of the diamond.

In other news: Hal Chase has resigned as manager of the Highlanders, a kid named Risberg is mulling an offer to try out for the Vernon Tigers, and Abe Attell is one of the greatest featherweights in boxing history.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: December 15, 2011 at 01:45 PM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: December 15, 2011 at 01:48 PM (#4016933)
Birthday Team:
C: Nig Clarke
1B: Mo Vaughn
2B: Aaron Miles
3B/Manager: Art Howe
SS: Sammy Esposito
LF: Bill Van Dyke
CF: Edgard Clemente
RF: Luis Montanez

SP: Stan Bahnsen
SP: Ray Herbert
SP: Rick Helling
SP: Doug Rau
SP: George Hemming
RP: Mike Proly

Too Good Not To Mention, But Nowhere To Play Him: Eddie Robinson
   2. Bob Evans Posted: December 15, 2011 at 06:35 PM (#4017161)
On the next page, you can learn how the modern farmer butchers his hogs.

Seriously, it's an article, not an ad.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 15, 2011 at 06:47 PM (#4017177)
Giants sign P Guillermo Mota to a one year $1 mill deal.

Minor league deals
Mets sign P Chuck James
Mariners re-sign C Chris Jimenez
   4. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: December 15, 2011 at 07:12 PM (#4017205)
Mariners re-sign C Chris Jimenez
I've always really liked Gimenez as a guy who can play five positions (C/1B/3B/LF/RF), draw walks, and pop an occasional home run - sort of Jeff Manto Lite - but at some point he's got to actually hit in the majors. .171/.279/.272 ain't gonna cut it.
   5. AndrewJ Posted: December 15, 2011 at 09:32 PM (#4017353)
Undoubtedly the players as a class are today the cleanest body of professional athletes in the new world. In the 70’s the fans used to say: “Aw, they threw the game.” When does one hear a serious charge of that kind now?


These past few months I've been collecting newspaper accounts of Deadball-era World Series for a forthcoming SABR book. Here's a stanza to one poem I came across:

Still, it really doesn't matter,
After all, who wins the flag.
Good clean sport is what we're after,
And we aim to make our brag
To each near or distant nation
Whereon shines the sporting sun
That of all our games gymnastic
Base ball is the cleanest one!


This appeared in the Philadelphia Bulletin the day of Game 1 of the 1919 Series.
   6. Addison Russell T. Davies (chris h.) Posted: December 15, 2011 at 10:25 PM (#4017407)
This appeared in the Philadelphia Bulletin the day of Game 1 of the 1919 Series.

Irony is awesome.
   7. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: December 15, 2011 at 10:34 PM (#4017413)
Birthday Team:
C: Nig Clarke
1B: Mo Vaughn
2B: Aaron Miles
3B/Manager: Art Howe
SS: Sammy Esposito
LF: Bill Van Dyke
CF: Edgard Clemente
RF: Luis Montanez

SP: Stan Bahnsen
SP: Ray Herbert
SP: Rick Helling
SP: Doug Rau
SP: George Hemming
RP: Mike Proly

Too Good Not To Mention, But Nowhere To Play Him: Eddie Robinson


That is one pathetic team. Not one real outfielder? Robinson is the second best player, and the only player besides Vaughn to play over 900 games or bat over 3,000 times.
   8. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: December 15, 2011 at 11:15 PM (#4017430)
So , my 6th grade son is doing his homework, and asks "Dad, who developed the Big Bang Theory?" Me, "I think it was Carl Hubble". He looks him up on his laptop, "Cool, he was a baseball player too!". Me, "Um, I think I meant to say Edwin Hubble."
   9. bunyon Posted: December 15, 2011 at 11:23 PM (#4017434)
I thought it was Chuck Lorre, Misirlou.


Anyway, Both Carl and Edwin are distant cousins of mine. So there.
   10. Dock Ellis Posted: December 15, 2011 at 11:48 PM (#4017445)
Marlins should just say "fcuk it" and sign Prince Fielder for like 4/120.
   11. esseff Posted: December 16, 2011 at 01:32 AM (#4017480)
Anyone notice the New York Tribune's All-Star baseball team as reported in the 12/15/11 Canaseraga Times?

CF - Cobb
RF - Schulte
LF - Joe Jackson
1B - Merkle
2B - Collins
SS - Wagner
3B - Baker
C - Ira Thomas (!) and Meyers (spelled Myers)
P - Walsh, Mathewson, Johnson, Alexander

EDIT: And right underneath the All-Star team is an article listing team payrolls for 1911, topped by the Pirates at $46,000 and bottomed by the Braves at $6,950. That sort of data might be of interest to bb-ref, except the report is unsourced.
   12. Rafael Bellylard: The Grinch of Orlando. Posted: December 16, 2011 at 01:43 AM (#4017489)
I liked the article about Sparta, WI's BoE banning girls from playing basket ball because "public exhibition of girls' teams are not conducive of good morals."

Not conducive of good basketball, either.
   13. esseff Posted: December 16, 2011 at 01:54 AM (#4017492)
Or good grammar.
   14. Morty Causa Posted: December 16, 2011 at 04:09 AM (#4017538)
11:

Am kind of surprised Schulte was chosen over Sam Crawford. Both had similar great years, but Crawford was a genuinely great player, not just having the year of his life. A year entirely out of the context of his career. But, again, maybe that's why they gave it to Schulte.

EDIT: Speaker, too, would probably have been a better selection. It was early in his career, and of course he really wasn't a RF, although I'm sure he could have played it (or center, with Cobb in left and Jackson in right).

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