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Tuesday, December 31, 2013

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 12-31-2013

Seattle Star, December 31, 1913:

Swearing on the baseball diamond will not be tolerated in the Northwestern league next season. A ban was put on all forms of profanity by the Northwestern magnates at their recent confab in Portland, it was announced today.
...
Frequent outbursts on the field sickened the fans last season. A heavy penalty for the violation of this clause will be fixed.

That’s flippin’ bullpucky.

Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: December 31, 2013 at 08:56 AM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: December 31, 2013 at 08:58 AM (#4626986)
An awful Birthday Team today. It's the baseball version of King and his court.

C: Al Lakeman
1B: Pete Sweeney
2B: Bobby Byrne
3B: Jerry McCormick
SS/Manager: King Kelly
LF: Donell Nixon
CF: Joe Simpson
RF: Walt Goldsby

SP: Esteban Loaiza
SP: Syl Johnson
SP: Fred Beebe
SP: Brian Moehler
SP: Tommy Byrne
RP: Rick Aguilera

Umpire: Tom Connolly
   2. Anonymous Observer Posted: December 31, 2013 at 09:33 AM (#4626995)
Jayson Stark has written his "Strange But True" article for the 2013 season. In it, he wrote the following:

But in 2013, those same Red Sox turned themselves into the first team in the major leagues to win 90 games -- a year after they neglected to win 90 ALL SEASON. Hey, of course they did.

Can anybody tell me WTF this means, or what he's trying to say? It reads like he's saying the Red Sox were, OMG!!!!! the first team ever in the history of ever to win 90 baseball games one year, when they didn't win 90 the year before. But he should know that's not even close to being true.

Any clarity on this is appreciated. The "shocked" way of writing about something that supposedly hasn't happened before, but has (many times, I would venture a guess) just makes it look ridiculous.
   3. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: December 31, 2013 at 09:33 AM (#4626996)
Last day of the year. For those who don't remember the Boston Red Sox won the World Series this year...it was a good year.
   4. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: December 31, 2013 at 09:40 AM (#4627001)
#2, what I think Stark is attempting to say is that they were the first team to reach the 90 win mark in 2013.
   5. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: December 31, 2013 at 09:48 AM (#4627003)
#2, what I think Stark is attempting to say is that they were the first team to reach the 90 win mark in 2013.


That's how I read it too. He's trying to give it some WOW! factor but picking the fact that they didn't win 90 in 2012 is a weak "WOW!" I believe the Sox had the worst record in 2012 of any team that ever won the World Series the following year. I'm not sure where I heard that so it may not be true. If it is that would be a lot more interesting than the way Stark phrased it.
   6. Anonymous Observer Posted: December 31, 2013 at 09:48 AM (#4627004)
#4, okay, that makes sense. Not that I find it strange or remarkable in any way, but now I at least know what he means.

Thanks!

Or, what #5 said.
   7. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: December 31, 2013 at 10:13 AM (#4627014)
But in 2013, those same Red Sox turned themselves into the first team in the major leagues to win 90 games -- a year after they neglected to win 90 ALL SEASON. Hey, of course they did.


I think he meant to say they were the first team to win 90 games following a season in which they failed to win 70 (while losing 90+), and simply combined the latter two numbers into an incoherent single number.

   8. BDC Posted: December 31, 2013 at 10:24 AM (#4627026)
first team to win 90 games following a season in which they failed to win 70 (while losing 90+)

But they weren't that either, obviously (the 1991 Braves are one, at least). Were they the first AL team to do it in an odd-numbered year, or something? :)

   9. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: December 31, 2013 at 10:28 AM (#4627032)
But they weren't that either, obviously (the 1991 Braves are one, at least). Were they the first AL team to do it in an odd-numbered year, or something? :)


I meant they were the first team to the 90-win mark last year following a season in which they failed to win 70/did lose 90.
   10. BDC Posted: December 31, 2013 at 10:46 AM (#4627048)
Ah, put a comma after "year" and it all makes sense :)
   11. BDC Posted: December 31, 2013 at 10:47 AM (#4627049)
On other topics, Donell Nixon is intriguing because he's a good-looking guy. Otis was invented by an evil sorcerer to frighten children, so this is inexplicable.
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 31, 2013 at 11:07 AM (#4627061)
But they weren't that either, obviously (the 1991 Braves are one, at least). Were they the first AL team to do it in an odd-numbered year, or something? :)


The Red Sox were the first to do it at home!
   13. WahooSam Posted: December 31, 2013 at 12:34 PM (#4627118)
Bobby Byrne had a good run - Pirates acquired him to replace Leach at 3B and he hit decently with a great glove for about 3 years
   14. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 31, 2013 at 12:43 PM (#4627130)
Why didn't Donnell have Otis's career? He was about the same kind of hitter, albeit in limited MLB action. His 144 steals in 1983 still just blow my mind. If teams were employing guys like Gerald Young and Cecil Espy, you'd think someone could use a Donnell Nixon. And if you don't use Donnell Nixon, then your team could use some fixin'.
   15. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: December 31, 2013 at 12:46 PM (#4627132)
Rick Aguilera's 1989 is a pretty fun season.

Begins the year with the Mets, puts up a 2.34 ERA in 34 games, all as a reliever (he also has 7 saves). At the trading deadline, he (and others) get sent to the Twins for Frank Viola.

As soon as he arrives in Minnesota, they immediately put him in their starting rotation, and he puts up a 3.21 ERA in 11 starts (with 3 complete games). So, on the year he had 69 innings with 0 starts for the Mets, and 75 innings with 0 relief appearances for the Twins.
   16. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: December 31, 2013 at 12:49 PM (#4627134)
#14--I can imagine an alternate universe where the Marines of the late 1980s have a dynasty, solely because they became better at recognizing the talent that was already available in their organization.
   17. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: December 31, 2013 at 01:10 PM (#4627155)
As soon as he arrives in Minnesota, they immediately put him in their starting rotation, and he puts up a 3.21 ERA in 11 starts (with 3 complete games). So, on the year he had 69 innings with 0 starts for the Mets, and 75 innings with 0 relief appearances for the Twins.

That's almost what happened with Todd Wellemeyer in 2007. I don't know how the Cardinals figured out that a reject from the Royals bullpen was the perfect guy to join their rotation, but it worked.
   18. esseff Posted: December 31, 2013 at 01:10 PM (#4627156)
Why didn't Donnell have Otis's career?


Handedness could be at least a minor factor. Otis was a switch hitter who took about 70 percent of his career PA from the left side. Donell was a right-handed hitter, and right-handed speed guys may not be perceived in the same way as the lefties who can slap and dash.
   19. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: December 31, 2013 at 01:23 PM (#4627168)
Bobby Byrne had a good run - Pirates acquired him to replace Leach at 3B and he hit decently with a great glove for about 3 years
Likely would have been longer, if not for his unimaginably unlucky 1912-13 offseason. In November 1912, in order to avoid an oncoming truck, he swerved his car, then had to swerve again to miss a pedestrian, then smashed into a telephone pole and was thrown from the car and seriously injured in the wreck.

That was bad enough, but then he took a Smoky Joe Wood fastball to the noggin at Spring Training in 1913.

As you can imagine, his career wasn't really the same after that.
   20. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: December 31, 2013 at 01:29 PM (#4627176)
And if you don't use Donnell Nixon, then your team could use some fixin'.
*slow clap*

How was Donell's glove? Cleveland kept Otis around for years at the beginning of his career for no reason other than they thought of him as a Gold Glove-caliber defensive player who could pinch run. (See, for instance, 1986: 105 games, 86 of them off the bench, 95 games in the field, 95 AB, 23 SB.)

As it turns out, the metrics don't really back up the Indians' impression of Otis's defense, but if Donell was a meh defensive player, that would have closed off the avenue his brother took to an MLB career.
   21. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: December 31, 2013 at 02:26 PM (#4627231)
Beats me, but think it was handedness, defense (btw, why was DN at third in his early minor league career?), being at the right place at the right/wrong time, and whatever it was that made Donell's career end so early.
   22. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 31, 2013 at 02:33 PM (#4627238)
Otis had a drug problem that almost got him out of baseball didn't he? Did Donnell have a drug problem?
   23. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 31, 2013 at 02:52 PM (#4627254)
And if you don't use Donnell Nixon, then your team could use some fixin'.

*slow clap*


Fine, fine, get your kicks in.
   24. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: December 31, 2013 at 06:30 PM (#4627396)
17--wow, totally missed that about Wellemeyer.
   25. puck Posted: December 31, 2013 at 08:46 PM (#4627450)
Early Mike Trout "cave painting" found in house some guy bought from Trout's parents.
   26. WahooSam Posted: January 02, 2014 at 10:44 AM (#4628084)
#19 - Thanks for the update. That would really derail a career

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