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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 12-5-2018

Memphis News Scimitar, December 5, 1918:

It’s one thing after another with Babe Ruth this offseason. The latest is some sort of an accident at the factor the factory he was engaged in that put one of the Babe’s legs on the blink and he is hobbling around on crutches. Two weeks ago it was the flu that had him. Before that something else, and right after the season closed he was singed and blistered when a kitchen stove blew up.

The Babe didn’t make great decisions. The kitchen stove incident happened because he poured kerosene into a fire.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: December 05, 2018 at 09:58 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: December 05, 2018 at 10:00 AM (#5794089)
No huge stars on today's Birthday Team unless you count Pink Floyd.

C: Gus Mancuso (11.6 WAR)
1B: Cliff Floyd (26.0 WAR)
2B: Joe Gedeon (1.3 WAR)
3B: Patsy Tebeau (10.1 WAR)
SS: Billy Shindle (17.5 WAR)
LF: Christian Yelich (26.2 WAR)
CF: A.J. Pollock (20.0 WAR)
RF: Gary Roenicke (15.4 WAR)

SP: Pink Hawley (39.8 WAR)
SP: Dave Ferriss (11.3 WAR)
SP: Ed Summers (10.7 WAR)
SP: Snake Wiltse (2.7 WAR)
SP: Raleigh Aitchison (1.2 WAR)
RP: Scott Lewis (0.9 WAR)

Born on the Atlantic Ocean: Ed Porray
Convicted violent felon: Josh Lueke
No relation to Baby Ortiz: John Papa
No relation to John Papa: Baby Ortiz
Sounds painful: Dick Stone
Owner: Philip K. Wrigley
Ambassador: Jamie McCourt
Announcer: Helen Dettweiler
Japanese Baseball Hall of Famer: Kihachi Enomoto
   2. mathesond Posted: December 05, 2018 at 12:16 PM (#5794154)
8 of 9 starters have double-digital WAR - that seems like a bit of a rarity.
   3. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 05, 2018 at 12:25 PM (#5794161)
SP: Pink Hawley (39.8 WAR)

The Snapper unknown star of the day.

Pretty routine 19th century workhorse. Lost 20 three years in a row. Won 27 and 31 games.

Hysterical to see a 40 WAR pitcher with a K/9 lower than his BB/9. Different game. Would be fascinating to watch.
   4. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: December 05, 2018 at 02:49 PM (#5794240)
looks like jabari blash is going to sign with rakuten (japan) - i think he has a chance to be very good there.

jay jackson might come back to the states and is worth a look for a bullpen gig. always had decent stuff, he seemed to turn a corner his last year in the us minors (2015) when he was moved to the pen and has been a quality setup man for hiroshima...
   5. Tom Nawrocki Posted: December 05, 2018 at 02:56 PM (#5794245)
Hysterical to see a 40 WAR pitcher with a K/9 lower than his BB/9. Different game. Would be fascinating to watch.


I imagine it was more or less like slow-pitch softball. I don't think the pitchers were very important.
   6. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: December 05, 2018 at 02:59 PM (#5794248)
Hysterical to see a 40 WAR pitcher with a K/9 lower than his BB/9. Different game. Would be fascinating to watch.


the 1949 World Champion Yankees entire staff had a BB/9 > then their K/9, by a lot.
   7. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: December 05, 2018 at 03:13 PM (#5794258)
Just did a P-I search. HOFer Ted Lyons (62 WAR) had a higher BB/9 then K/9. Other well known pitchers in the club are Eddie Rommel, Wes Ferrell, Bucky Walters, and sad Sam Jones. The most recent pitcher with at least 10 WAR is onetime giant's closer Greg Minton. Can you imagine a closer today walking as many as he strikes out? And it wasn't just a late career collapse. In his 4 years as the Giants primary closer, he struck out 215 and walked 216, in 530 innings.
   8. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: December 05, 2018 at 03:43 PM (#5794273)
chris owings reportedly to kc for $3m - that seems like an overpay.
   9. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: December 05, 2018 at 03:51 PM (#5794277)
minton relied overwhelmingly on a hard (by the standards of the day) sinker - pitched to contact, got grounders, kept the ball in the park

I imagine it was more or less like slow-pitch softball. I don't think the pitchers were very important.

that would imply much less stability with regard to which pitchers were or were not good than there was.
alternately, tell it to cy young.
   10. RJ in TO Posted: December 05, 2018 at 03:53 PM (#5794278)
chris owings reportedly to kc for $3m - that seems like an overpay.
They're the Royals. It's like the Pirates of a decade ago - you don't sign with them unless you have no other options, or they comically overpay you.
   11. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 05, 2018 at 03:57 PM (#5794282)
the 1949 World Champion Yankees entire staff had a BB/9 > then their K/9, by a lot.

I think I knew that at one point, but it's still shocking.

They were really good on contact, though. Only 8 H/9, and 0.6 HR/9.
   12. KJOK Posted: December 06, 2018 at 02:49 AM (#5794471)
the 1949 World Champion Yankees entire staff had a BB/9 > then their K/9, by a lot.

I think I knew that at one point, but it's still shocking.

They were really good on contact, though. Only 8 H/9, and 0.6 HR/9.


Yankee Stadium back then killed balls in play, except for fly balls down the RF line.

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