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Friday, January 27, 2012

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 1-27-2012

Toledo News-Bee, January 27, 1912:

Charley White, who has been granted the New York city franchise in the proposed new United States league, has the biggest and most unique scheme on hand that baseball has ever produced. A baseball field of immense size, sodded with turf and all the conveniences of an up-to-date ball grounds on a roof, is the gigantic undertaking that White has in view, and claims that he has the necessary backing to carry the plan along.
...
The roof of the new Grand Central station…is the possible location of the proposed ball field.

That would have been SO COOL.

Tim Stauffer, Trot Nixon's Coming (Dan Lee) Posted: January 27, 2012 at 06:11 AM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Tim Stauffer, Trot Nixon's Coming (Dan Lee) Posted: January 27, 2012 at 06:14 AM (#4046987)
Another lousy Birthday Team:

C: Ken Huckaby
1B: Buck Etchison
2B: John Lowenstein
3B: Gil Hatfield
SS: Angel Berroa
LF: Bibb Falk
CF: Charlie Duffee
RF: Phil Plantier

SP: Milt Gaston
SP: Gavin Floyd
SP: Fred Heimach
SP/Umpire: Bob Emslie
SP: Sleepy Bill Burns
RP: Rusty Meacham

Manager: Eric Wedge (sigh)
Designated Francophone: Pete LaForest
Israel Alcantara's least favorite pitcher: Julio Teheran
Does not produce eggs: Mike Overy
Cool name: Mother Watson
   2. Repoz Posted: January 27, 2012 at 06:22 AM (#4046988)
Dan Szymborski, who crunches statistics for ESPN.com and writes for the high-IQ website Baseball Think Factory...

I digith Lynn Henning, but he must be am the stoopid here.

Link
   3. Bitter Mouse Posted: January 27, 2012 at 10:59 AM (#4047103)
I read the birthday teams every day, and so many of them are worse than I expect they will be. I know it is a statistical oddity and 365+ teams is a bunch, but there are well over a hundred years of baseball, with many teams each year.

BTW - I do love the birthday team bit and appreciate it being put outthere - thanks!
   4. Dag Nabbit apealing [sic] his own check swing Posted: January 27, 2012 at 11:09 AM (#4047127)
Today is the 30th anniversary of one of the greatest trades in Cubs history. Can you guess what it is before clicking on the link?
   5. JJ1986 Posted: January 27, 2012 at 11:17 AM (#4047137)
Fixed?
   6. Dag Nabbit apealing [sic] his own check swing Posted: January 27, 2012 at 11:26 AM (#4047150)
Test

Work??
   7. Dag Nabbit apealing [sic] his own check swing Posted: January 27, 2012 at 11:28 AM (#4047154)
Weird - I edited out the word dammit and it still appears. But the link fixes don't work.

EDITED: fixes ain't working here either. I'm out of ideas. This normally works for me.
   8. Der_K is feeling better now. Posted: January 27, 2012 at 11:29 AM (#4047155)
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   9. Misirlou's got a busy day, he's wearing a vest Posted: January 27, 2012 at 11:32 AM (#4047162)
Today is the 30th anniversary of one of the greatest trades in Cubs history[/]. Can you guess what it is before clicking on the link?


Ernie Banks for Greg Brock?
   10. Crispix Attacks Posted: January 27, 2012 at 11:37 AM (#4047168)
Ernie Banks was already in the Hall of Fame 30 years ago. [sorry if you now feel old]
   11. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: January 27, 2012 at 11:39 AM (#4047170)
That was a play on the Ernie (Broglio) for (Lou) Brock trade.

The Sandberg swap would be my guess.

   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 27, 2012 at 11:41 AM (#4047172)
My All-Unemployed Team:

C Ivan Rodriguez
1B Derrek Lee
2B Carlos Guillen
SS Miguel Tejada
3B Eric Chavez
LF Raul Ibanez
CF Juan Pierre
RF Kosuke Fukudome
DH Johnny Damon

Bench: C Jason Varitek, IF Wes Helms, IF Felipe Lopez, OF Conor Jackson, OF Rick Ankiel, OF Magglio Ordonez, DH Hideki Matsui

SP Edwin Jackson
SP Roy Oswalt
SP Jon Garland
SP Livan Hernandez
SP Tim Wakefield

RP Arthur Rhodes
RP Todd Coffey
RP Juan Cruz
RP Mike Gonzalez
RP Jason Isringhausen
RP Chad Qualls
RP David Aardsma

Retired? OF JD Drew, SP Javier Vazquez

   13. Dag Nabbit apealing [sic] his own check swing Posted: January 27, 2012 at 11:53 AM (#4047192)
Sorry about the link & sorry for not checking back in time to fix it in the original post.
   14. Guapo Posted: January 27, 2012 at 12:51 PM (#4047286)
LOUD NOISES
   15. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: January 27, 2012 at 12:58 PM (#4047301)
If the All-Unemployed Team played a season's worth of games against the 2012 A's, who would come out ahead?
   16. The DA Baracus Hypothesis Posted: January 27, 2012 at 01:17 PM (#4047337)
Juan Pierre is now off the market, minor league deal with the Phillies, so maybe the Unemployed Team got better.

Jack Z asks for patience while Eric "Wedge looks at a beefed-up Gutierrez and sees a twinkle in his eye that foretells a comeback."

Next he'll smell him and know that he's in the best shape of his life.
   17. i'm not STEAGLES and you shouldn't be either Posted: January 27, 2012 at 01:46 PM (#4047377)
Confirmed. Pierre agrees to minor lg deal. "@Ken_Rosenthal: Pierre minor-lge deal with #Phillies - @JSalisburyCSN reports serious talks



i think we now have official confirmation of ed wade's presence in the decision making process.
   18. The cushions are crowded for Edmundo Posted: January 27, 2012 at 01:53 PM (#4047388)
WE BETTER HOPE THAT TOLAXOR DOESN'T POST IN THIS THREAD!
   19. Good cripple hitter Posted: January 27, 2012 at 02:19 PM (#4047441)
Jack Z asks for patience while Eric "Wedge looks at a beefed-up Gutierrez and sees a twinkle in his eye that foretells a comeback."


Wedge really has a thing for eyes. A lookout landing story once dug up two eye-related quotes from Wedge:

"I saw [Bedard] as good as anybody when he was back in Baltimore," Wedge said. "He's just had a lot of trouble with injuries. But I look into his eyes and see good eyes."

"Good eyes. I am a big believer in that, good eyes in the room. They were all locked in. They were paying attention, the room felt good. I felt like they were hearing Carl, hearing me. It felt good."


Which led to someone linking this picture of Eric Wedge's frightening eyes.
   20. The DA Baracus Hypothesis Posted: January 27, 2012 at 02:27 PM (#4047453)
Not that it sounds good in context, but

"Good eyes. I am a big believer in that, good eyes in the room. They were all locked in. They were paying attention, the room felt good. I felt like they were hearing Carl, hearing me. It felt good."


sounds really creepy out of context.
   21. JJ1986 Posted: January 27, 2012 at 02:29 PM (#4047461)
Ryan Theriot rejoins Mike Fontenot again, signs with Giants.
   22. Bitter Mouse Posted: January 27, 2012 at 02:32 PM (#4047467)
I am not 100% sure that Bonds doesn't belong on the all unemployed team, but likely that ship has - in fact - sailed.
   23. TerpNats Posted: January 27, 2012 at 02:35 PM (#4047471)
I remember seeing that anecdote about building a ballpark above Grand Central station some years ago; it certainly would have been a unique venue, with the East Side skyline in the distance. I suppose at the time, it was envisioned as a home for the Giants, then the dominant team in NYC, although the Highlanders/Yankees might have been a tenant, too. Of course, had it happened, would Jacqueline Onassis have been a supporter of saving ballpark architecture more than half a century later?
   24. The DA Baracus Hypothesis Posted: January 27, 2012 at 02:37 PM (#4047472)
I am not 100% sure that Bonds doesn't belong on the all unemployed team, but likely that ship has - in fact - sailed.


Manny Ramirez is "eligible."
   25. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 27, 2012 at 02:38 PM (#4047473)
What's the deal with Derrek Lee? He still seems decent. Asking for too much?
   26. Crispix Attacks Posted: January 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM (#4047987)
If you think Eric Wedge's eye remark are weird, check out Dusty Baker.

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