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Wednesday, January 02, 2013

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 1-2-2013

Washington Times, January 2, 1913:

When Larry Lajoie leaves the game baseball will lose the greatest batsman that ever lived. There is no room for argument about Larry’s honor.

O RLY?

(I’ll let the omission of Babe Ruth slide. This was written in 1913, Ruth didn’t make his professional debut until 1914, and Lajoie retired after the 1916 season.)

Commissioner Gordon Shumway (Dan Lee) Posted: January 02, 2013 at 06:30 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dugout, history, nap lajoie

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   1. Commissioner Gordon Shumway (Dan Lee) Posted: January 02, 2013 at 06:35 AM (#4336678)
This is...not a good defensive infield.

C/Manager: Jim Essian
1B: Ryan Garko
2B: Bill Madlock
3B: Edgar Martinez
SS: Royce Clayton
LF: George Jackson
CF: Bobby Reis
RF: Ted Gullic

SP: David Cone
SP: Greg Swindell
SP: Jeff Suppan
SP: Garrett Stephenson
SP: J.D. Martin
RP: Scott Proctor
   2. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 02, 2013 at 07:07 AM (#4336681)
When Larry Lajoie leaves the game baseball will lose the greatest batsman that ever lived. There is no room for argument about Larry’s honor.

Even if you say that Cobb wasn't there on career bulk yet, there's an exact contemporary of Lajoie who won 3 more batting titles than he did, not to mention substantial advantages in other black ink categories. (Plus steals and positional versatility and defense.)
   3. Commissioner Gordon Shumway (Dan Lee) Posted: January 02, 2013 at 08:04 AM (#4336694)
Birthday league update:
* January 5 leads the way at 13-3, with January 14 (11-5) and January 23 (10-5) close behind.
* Pete Runnels leads the league with a .489 batting average.
* Paul Ratliff (January 23, real-life career SLG: .374) and Wayne Gross (January 14) are tied for the league lead with 5 homers.
* Otis Nixon (January 9) has stolen 16 bases in 15 games.
* Dontrelle Willis (January 12): 3 starts, 3 complete games, 27 innings, 3 runs.
* Jack Neagle (January 2) leads the league in games pitched, runs allowed, earned runs allowed, home runs allowed, and walks allowed.

Box scores, leaders, standings, and stats here.
   4. Bitter Mouse, Space Tyrant Posted: January 02, 2013 at 08:08 AM (#4336698)
Honus gets no respect.
   5. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: January 02, 2013 at 08:18 AM (#4336703)
   6. RMc is organizationalwide! Posted: January 02, 2013 at 08:36 AM (#4336713)
Most RBat, career, thru 1912.

Dan, Cap, Honus and Roger say hi.
   7. RMc is organizationalwide! Posted: January 02, 2013 at 08:42 AM (#4336717)
Absurdly small point: Since it's a 28-team league, why not have four even divisions instead of three uneven ones? Otherwise, it's awesome.

Do the raw stats exist? Is there a way I can pour this into my OOTP game?
   8. Commissioner Gordon Shumway (Dan Lee) Posted: January 02, 2013 at 08:47 AM (#4336721)
Yeah, that's a good point, RMc. I didn't really give it much thought because I didn't intend for there to be divisions to begin with...it's a limitation of the software that I had planned to ignore.

I set up the schedule so that everybody plays everybody roughly the same number of times, regardless of division.

Re: raw stats, does this work?
   9. morineko Posted: January 02, 2013 at 08:51 AM (#4336726)
Jeff Suppan in front of that infield...well, that's about equivalent to the 2007 Brewers, so never mind.
   10. WahooSam Posted: January 02, 2013 at 11:49 AM (#4336878)
Does Wagner being in the NL vs LaJoie in the AL boost LaJoie at all?
   11. Rennie's Tenet Posted: January 02, 2013 at 12:22 PM (#4336923)
Does Wagner being in the NL vs LaJoie in the AL boost LaJoie at all?


It was a Washington paper being quoted.
   12. michaelplank has knowledgeable eyes Posted: January 02, 2013 at 12:39 PM (#4336946)
Does Wagner being in the NL vs LaJoie in the AL boost LaJoie at all?


Just the opposite, I think. The NL was an established major league (the only one, really) in 1901.
   13. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 02, 2013 at 05:35 PM (#4337304)
Just the opposite, I think. The NL was an established major league (the only one, really) in 1901.

My impression is that the AL caught up relatively quickly, thanks to much better scouting in the South. But it was very clearly weaker in 1901, and 1901 is Lajoie's best year.
   14. Chris Fluit Posted: January 02, 2013 at 05:43 PM (#4337317)
Pujols is dooming his team with another weak start, I see. The Jan. 16 Teetotalers are in last place while Pujols hits .250 with only 3 extra base hits, all doubles.



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