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Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 1-30-2013

Tacoma Times, January 30, 1913:

Fielder Jones is considered the wealthiest ex-ball player living. He made a fortune in baseball because Charley Comiskey believes in paying men who deliver the goods, and Jones invested wisely, so that he was able to refuse an offer of $15,000 a year to manage a major league club. He’d have taken the offer if the owner had agreed to sell him a large block of the club stock.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop the clock. “Charley Comiskey believes in paying men who deliver the goods”? This is a guy who was so cheap, he wouldn’t even pay for his team’s uniforms to be cleaned.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: January 30, 2013 at 06:23 AM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: charles comiskey, dugout, fielder jones, history

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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: January 30, 2013 at 06:28 AM (#4358040)
A versatile Birthday Team. The left fielder can pitch and the ace pitcher can play left field.

C: Bob Henley
1B: Walt Dropo
2B/Manager: Davey Johnson
3B: Jorge Cantu
SS: Charlie Neal
LF/RP: General Stafford
CF: Vin Campbell
RF: Jeremy Hermida

SP/LF: Tony Mullane
SP: Brooks Lawrence
SP: Mickey Harris
SP: John Patterson
SP: Doc Watson
RP: Joe Kerrigan

Defensive Replacement: Sandy Amoros
Designated Runner: Matt Alexander
Legendary Primate: John Brattain

Best regards,
Dan
   2. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: January 30, 2013 at 07:50 AM (#4358053)
Legendary Primate: John Brattain

Bruce Markusen, too. Same year and everything.

And, as noted at THT, Davey Johnson's b-day today makes him 70 years old. That makes him one of the oldest managers in baseball history. Enjoy 'im while we still got 'im, people.
   3. Cblau Posted: January 30, 2013 at 11:30 AM (#4358197)
Charley Comiskey believes in paying men who deliver the goods

Exactly. Which is why, even coming off a disappointing season, the 1919 White Sox had the second highest payroll in the majors.
   4. Gch exhales the vast drunken folly of Epicurus Posted: January 30, 2013 at 01:40 PM (#4358336)
Exactly. Which is why, even coming off a disappointing season, the 1919 White Sox had the second highest payroll in the majors.


Yesterday when I was voting in the SABR Analytic Research Awards, one of the nominees was Bob Hoie's piece "1919 Baseball Salaries and the Mythically Underpaid Chicago White Sox" (link It's a PDF, the password (provided by Baseball Prospectus) is McFarland)

It was interesting to read various versions of the "poor White Sox, Comiskey never paid them what they were worth" go up against the Hall of Fame's salary data.
   5. esseff Posted: January 30, 2013 at 01:46 PM (#4358347)
With a veteran club, both things can be true.

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