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Monday, January 07, 2013

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 1-7-2013

Ogden Evening Standard, January 7, 1913:

Eppa Rixey, Jr., one of the National league pitching sensations…has written to Manager Dooin requesting permission to refrain from reporting next season until June, dodging the training trip to Southern Pines, N.C.

Rixey explained that he is taking a course in chemistry at the University of Virginia, and wishes to finish his studies before reporting. He promises to keep in shape by work in the university gymnasium.

“No.”

Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: January 07, 2013 at 06:11 AM | 32 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: January 07, 2013 at 06:24 AM (#4340566)
Pretty good Birthday Team, though that outfield is awful defensively. Ridiculously deep bullpen.

And...Obligatory Grimsley photo.

C: Al Todd
1B: Johnny Mize
2B: Jim Lefebvre
3B: Edwin Encarnacion
SS/Manager: Al Dark
LF: Kevin Mench
CF: Alfonso Soriano
RF: Tony Conigliaro

SP: Ross Grimsley
SP: Jon Lester
SP: Allan Anderson
SP: Dad Clarke
SP: Jim Hannan
RP: Jeff Montgomery
RP: Francisco Rodriguez
RP: Eric Gagne
   2. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: January 07, 2013 at 07:46 AM (#4340572)
The Dad Clarke link above is incorrect. This is the correct link.
   3. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: January 07, 2013 at 08:20 AM (#4340581)
Birthday League update:
January 28          25  14  .641 ---- 
January 23          24  14  .632   .5   
January 5           24  15  .615  1.0  
January 14          25  16  .610  1.0
News and notes:
* Magglio Ordonez (January 28) is 17 for his last 34, with three home runs and 14 RBI. He leads the league with 36 RBI.
* Tim Talton (January 14) leads the league with a .407 batting average.
* Otis Nixon (January 9) has 53 hits and 35 stolen bases in 40 games.
* George Selkirk (January 4) leads the league in slugging (.657), OBP (.455), and total bases (88).
* Chuck Dobson (January 10) leads the league with a 1.32 ERA.
* Mark Littell (January 17) leads the league in walks (34), wild pitches (6), and complete games (3). His pitch counts must be insane.

Stats, standings, leaders, and box scores here.
   4. Dag Nabbit is a cornucopia of errors Posted: January 07, 2013 at 08:23 AM (#4340582)


Historical piece up at THT about, no - not about how today is the 15,000 day-versary for Sean Forman (though that gets mentioned in it) but on how today is the 100th b-day for Johnny Mize.

   5. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 07, 2013 at 10:39 AM (#4340642)
I suppose it's not still #JackMorrisAwarenessWeek, but I have a Morris-related trivia question anyway.

Jack Morris ranks among the top 20 all-time in three pitching statistics. Name them.

As a bonus question, name the only pitcher who is ahead of him on all three lists.
   6. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: January 07, 2013 at 10:53 AM (#4340666)
Innings pitched, hits allowed, and...home runs allowed?

Blyleven?
   7. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: January 07, 2013 at 10:53 AM (#4340668)
I'm 1-for-3. Morris, by the way, is third all-time in putouts by a pitcher. I guess the first baseman really was a Sessile Fielder.
   8. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 07, 2013 at 10:55 AM (#4340671)
HR allowed is correct. Blyleven is not the other pitcher, as HR is the only one of the categories in which he leads Morris.
   9. JJ1986 Posted: January 07, 2013 at 10:55 AM (#4340672)
Does opening day starts count as a pitching stat?
   10. SoSH U at work Posted: January 07, 2013 at 10:57 AM (#4340674)
Wild pitches.

I predict Nolan Ryan will be the pitcher who leads him in all three categories, whatever the other two are.
   11. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 07, 2013 at 11:01 AM (#4340678)
Does opening day starts count as a pitching stat?

I'm not using it as one. The categories are the ones listed under "Standard Pitching Statistics" on B-R.

Wild pitches is correct. Nolan is not - he allowed fewer HR than Morris.
   12. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 07, 2013 at 12:22 PM (#4340780)
Any other guesses? In the remaining category, Morris is behind Nolan but ahead of Blyleven.
   13. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 07, 2013 at 12:29 PM (#4340793)
Eli Whiteside update: After being waived by the Giants, waived by the Yankees, and waived by the Blue Jays, he has been waived by the Rangers. But not claimed! Since he lives in Mississippi we believe he would prefer to spend the year with the Round Rock Express than Fresno, Buffalo or Moosic.

As part of a general clearout of catchers the Rangers also waived Luis Martinez who has been claimed by the Orioles.

The Red Sox still have 5 catchers on their 40-man roster, so expect Whiteside's value to plummet farther during spring as the market is glutted.
   14. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: January 07, 2013 at 12:37 PM (#4340801)
Runs allowed?
   15. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 07, 2013 at 12:37 PM (#4340803)
In related AAA news the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees are now the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders. I find this name inexplicable and infuriating since passenger trains, to NYC or anywhere else, no longer exist in the area, and the stadium is nowhere near the Steamtown historic area.

The logo appears to be some sort of porcupine or possibly one of those thorny desert lizards. Yes, it's a porcupine, an interesting creature present locally in abundance, though rarely seen except as roadkill. If I had heard about the cool porcupine before hearing about the stupid team name I would be more enthusiastic. Also what do porcupines have to do with trains?
   16. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: January 07, 2013 at 12:37 PM (#4340804)
Any other guesses? In the remaining category, Morris is behind Nolan but ahead of Blyleven.

Duh, GPTTS.
   17. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 07, 2013 at 12:47 PM (#4340814)
Runs allowed?

Nope.

Duh, GPTTS.

If this means what I think it does, also nope. Anyway, Ryan was a .500 pitcher; there's no way he beats Morris in GPTTS.
   18. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: January 07, 2013 at 12:57 PM (#4340822)
Good point, Eric. :)
   19. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: January 07, 2013 at 01:13 PM (#4340844)
So what was wrong with Red Barons?

The RailRiders won convincingly, Crain said, in the voting that came from a Name The Team contest, distancing itself from the Blast, Black Diamond Bears, Porcupines, Trolley Frogs and Fireflies.

I weep.
   20. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 07, 2013 at 01:22 PM (#4340856)
Morris's third top-20 category is walks.

Any remaining guesses as to the only pitcher to allow more walks, homers, and wild pitches than Morris, or should I call that one as well?
   21. WahooSam Posted: January 07, 2013 at 01:45 PM (#4340881)
Charlie Hough
   22. JJ1986 Posted: January 07, 2013 at 01:49 PM (#4340887)
So what was wrong with Red Barons?


It's a Red Sox related nickname, which the Phillies were okay with, but the Yankees don't want for obvious reasons.
   23. vortex of dissipation Posted: January 07, 2013 at 01:53 PM (#4340894)
So what was wrong with Red Barons?


It celebrates someone that the US was at war with?
   24. Robinson Cano Plate Like Home Posted: January 07, 2013 at 02:01 PM (#4340905)
How can you pass on Trolley Frogs? That's outstanding.
   25. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 07, 2013 at 02:02 PM (#4340907)
Charlie Hough

Right idea, not the right pitcher.
   26. SoSH U at work Posted: January 07, 2013 at 02:02 PM (#4340908)
Niekro.

   27. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 07, 2013 at 02:05 PM (#4340916)
Niekro.

Assuming you mean Phil, yes.
   28. SoSH U at work Posted: January 07, 2013 at 02:08 PM (#4340920)
Assuming you mean Phil, yes.


Yeah, obviously. And hat tip to WahooSam, for pointing me in the right direction (I hadn't seen 25 when I posted 26).

   29. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: January 07, 2013 at 02:29 PM (#4340956)
Yeah, obviously. And hat tip to WahooSam, for pointing me in the right direction (I hadn't seen 25 when I posted 26).

Had to be Phil.
Joe Niekro was the greatest clutch pitcher between Bob Gibson and Curt Schilling, and therefore was nothing like Jack Morris.
   30. Mike Emeigh Posted: January 07, 2013 at 02:42 PM (#4340989)
Anyway, Ryan was a .500 pitcher; there's no way he beats Morris in GPTTS.


You'd be surprised :) Ryan's run support during his career was generally terrible - every metric I have based on run support suggests that he should have had a losing record for his career. He was significantly better than Morris at converting his run support into wins (like about 30-40 games better).

-- MWE
   31. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 07, 2013 at 02:47 PM (#4341004)
You'd be surprised :) Ryan's run support during his career was generally terrible - every metric I have based on run support suggests that he should have had a losing record for his career. He was significantly better than Morris at converting his run support into wins (like about 30-40 games better).

I'm not especially surprised by this, but it wouldn't surprise me if it surprised a few other people.
   32. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 07, 2013 at 02:49 PM (#4341014)
Rixey explained that he is taking a course in chemistry at the University of Virginia, and wishes to finish his studies before reporting. He promises to keep in shape by work in the university gymnasium.

Wait, Rixey was taking a chemistry course and working out in the university gymnasium? I think we've found the long-awaited steroid user who's already in the Hall of Fame.

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