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Thursday, January 09, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 1-9-2014

Milwaukee Journal, January 9, 1914:

[Joe] Jackson’s love for his auto is blamed for his inability to hit .400 this year.

When Jackson started driving his automobile he was batting .413 and stood a good chance of beating Tyrus Cobb for the swat honors of the American league.
...
Cobb himself has blamed several batting slumps on auto driving and always showed judgment enough to “lay off” when driving interfered with hitting.

Cobb explains that the eyes become injured by the force of the wind experience in fast driving. Sam Crawford, who drives a lot, never experienced this difficulty, because Sam always drives slowly but with men of nervous disposition like Cobb and Jackson slow driving becomes torturous.

If that’s true, Yasiel Puig’s eyes are toast.

The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: January 09, 2014 at 07:34 AM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dugout, history, joe jackson, sam crawford, ty cobb

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   1. The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: January 09, 2014 at 07:36 AM (#4634334)
An awful Birthday Team today, though it does feature the greatest ballplayer/weapons mogul in MLB history.

C: Jack Bliss
1B: Bill Conroy
2B: Frank Olin
3B: Phil Mankowski
SS: Ivan DeJesus
LF: Stan Javier
CF: Otis Nixon
RF: Joe Wallis

SP: Ralph Terry
SP: Harley Payne
SP: Dave Keefe
SP: Tom Kramer
SP: Ken Cloude
RP: Jay Powell
RP: T.J. Mathews

Umpires: John Kibler, Al Clark
   2. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: January 09, 2014 at 08:35 AM (#4634338)
On the off chance anyone is interested (and hasn't read my numerous comments on the subject around here already), here are a couple thousand words on one of my favorite random baseball topics: Lance Berkman, stealth October superstar.
   3. God Posted: January 09, 2014 at 09:01 AM (#4634344)
At a glance, that's at least two guys on the pitching staff who won Game 7 of the World Series.
   4. Davo Dozier Posted: January 09, 2014 at 09:56 AM (#4634369)
#3--Nice one!

Also, at least one guy who made the last out of a World Series.
   5. djrelays Posted: January 09, 2014 at 11:19 AM (#4634457)
Also, one (the same as one from #3) who lost Game 7 of the World Series.
   6. Rennie's Tenet Posted: January 09, 2014 at 11:48 AM (#4634490)
I'm guessing that Ivan DeJesus, Jr, hasn't been subjected to the Woody Woodpecker song as walkup music?
   7. salvomania Posted: January 09, 2014 at 12:23 PM (#4634538)
And another guy who won the clincher in a NL LDS.
   8. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: January 09, 2014 at 01:08 PM (#4634605)
"swat honors" should be used more often
   9. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: January 09, 2014 at 01:31 PM (#4634638)
Shoeless Joe's career average was a little under .400 (.393 going into 1913 plus that year's early .413) before he started driving and .338 after 1913. If he hadn't ruined his vision and wasted all that money on a car, history would have been changed.
   10. Davo Dozier Posted: January 09, 2014 at 01:45 PM (#4634657)
For a left fielder who played in the Sillyball Era and never hit over .300 or had more than 10 homers in a season, Stan Javier had one helluva career.

More career WAR than Hall of Famer George "Hick Pockets" Kelly!
   11. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: January 09, 2014 at 02:02 PM (#4634674)
Today's the anniversary of the death of two Hall of Famers (Bill Terry and Elmer Flick) plus Spud Chandler. Their reincarnations could help the birthday team.
   12. Davo Dozier Posted: January 09, 2014 at 02:04 PM (#4634677)
Also, to extend my silly diversion from yesterday:

Stan Javier and Ivan de Jesus were both traded for Hall of Famers. (Neither was a "straight-up" trade, however.)
   13. Davo Dozier Posted: January 09, 2014 at 02:09 PM (#4634680)
I'm trying to think of why I immediately recognized Ken Cloude's name (and knew he pitched badly for the Mariners in the late 90s), and am coming up empty.
   14. BDC Posted: January 09, 2014 at 04:08 PM (#4634887)
why I immediately recognized Ken Cloude's name

Was he traded for a Hall of Famer?

Actually, Cloude seems never to have been traded for anybody. I wonder how common that is. Most of the other players on today's team, for instance, were involved in a trade at some point, unless they played a long time ago.
   15. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: January 09, 2014 at 04:14 PM (#4634895)
Otis Nixon and T.J. Mathews were traded for Canseco and McGwire, who are probably in some version of the Hall of Fame.
   16. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: January 09, 2014 at 04:15 PM (#4634900)
I like Detroit's minor league pickup of Zeke Carrera. Hapless v. lefties, but plus defense in center and a solid runner makes him a useful insurance policy.
Also, kind of surprised that no one came Kevin Slowey a big league deal (re-upped w/ MIA on minor league terms).
   17. Davo Dozier Posted: January 09, 2014 at 04:26 PM (#4634917)
The very first baseball game I ever attended was in 1999, between the Mariners and the Twins (in Minnesota). Cloude was briefly a member of that 1999 Mariner rotation, but didn't get the start that day (I instead was treated to a John Halama performance.)

I wonder if maybe Cloude was maybe originally scheduled to start that day instead? It's the only thing I can come up with.
   18. Davo Dozier Posted: January 09, 2014 at 04:27 PM (#4634918)
why I immediately recognized Ken Cloude's name

14. Was he traded for a Hall of Famer?
I'm sorry I now have to burden the Mainland with my inane and trivial baseball thoughts... I'll try to stop!
   19. The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: January 09, 2014 at 04:37 PM (#4634935)
Yeah, you're screwed if you're planning to give Carrera any more AB than you absolutely have to, but he's a solid "break glass in case of emergency" guy to have on the 40-man.

Zeke had a weird 2013: Cleveland DFAd him, Philadelphia picked him up and quickly DFAd him, then Cleveland picked him up and almost immediately DFAd him again, so he went back to Philadelphia, who let him go at the end of the season.

edit to add: I'm wrong. See #21 below for a correction.
   20. Davo Dozier Posted: January 09, 2014 at 04:39 PM (#4634939)
#19-- The Adam Rosales career path!
   21. The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: January 09, 2014 at 04:41 PM (#4634947)
Y'know, I misremembered. Zeke got DFAd twice by the Indians in the span of six weeks, but the second time nobody claimed him so he wound up in Columbus.

As a Columbusian, I should have remembered that.

Anyway, he was set free at the end of the season, allowed to find an employer who's looking for a not-terrible sixth outfielder.
   22. kthejoker Posted: January 09, 2014 at 04:44 PM (#4634955)
Davo: You can burden the lounge instead - if anybody gives you guff, we'll squash 'em like a bug.
   23. SoSH U at work Posted: January 09, 2014 at 04:47 PM (#4634958)
I'm sorry I now have to burden the Mainland with my inane and trivial baseball thoughts... I'll try to stop!


Please don't. That's what the Dugout's for.



   24. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 09, 2014 at 05:43 PM (#4635045)
Nats win the bidding war for Jamey Carroll.

Minor league deals:

ATL - LHP Atahualpa Severino
CHW - IF Eric Patterson
DET - C Luis Exposito, OF Trevor Crowe, OF Ezequiel Carrera, RHP Eduardo Sanchez
KCR - C Ramon Hernandez
MIA - RHP Kevin Slowey
MIL - LHP Brad Mills
MIN - OF Corey Wimberly
NYY - RHP Yoshinori Tateyama, RHP Bruce Billings
TBR - IF Jayson Nix
WAS - IF Mike Fontenot
   25. JJ1986 Posted: January 09, 2014 at 05:47 PM (#4635054)
I've always really liked Crowe. Switch-hitter, good OBP (in the minors), who can play center should make a perfect 4th outfielder. But he hasn't hit at all in the bigs.
   26. Davo Dozier Posted: January 09, 2014 at 05:49 PM (#4635058)
Yoshinori Tateyama had a 42:3 K:BB ratio for the Yankees' AAA affiliate last year. (42 innings)

He turns 38 this year.
   27. Davo Dozier Posted: January 09, 2014 at 07:09 PM (#4635150)
The 23 NRIs the Twins are inviting to Spring Training

Some familiar names on that list.
   28. Davo Dozier Posted: January 09, 2014 at 08:40 PM (#4635248)
Kind of surprised Jayson Nix couldn't get a Major League deal.

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