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Friday, February 14, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 2-14-2014

Pittsburgh Press, February 14, 1914:

It is interesting to note what the paper owned by C.P. Taft, who is interested in Murphy in the Chicago Cubs, says about the discharge of [Johnny] Evers.
...
“There is a tangled network of circumstances around it all, and lots of the webbing can never be unwound. One thing that may have swayed Mr. Murphy was the certainty that Jimmy Johnston, the wonderful speeder just signed by the Cubs, could never have succeeded under the management of Evers…Johnston, one of the most promising ball players in the land, has a disposition that, under pleasant leading and jollying, will make him pretty near a Cobb—under snarling and growling, will make him hopeless…”
...
Speaking of alibis, the above is our idea of less than nothing.

Johnston got 101 AB for the 1914 Cubs, hit .228/.264/.327 (76 OPS+) as a bench outfielder/second baseman, then found himself in the PCL in 1915. He spent 1916-1925 with the Dodgers as an adequate, unremarkable 3B/OF. As far as I know, no other managers were fired in the making of this ballplayer.

Taft, meanwhile, became the principal owner of the Cubs later in February 1914 after he bought out Murphy.

Dan Lee is a Big Hunk of Neufchâtel Posted: February 14, 2014 at 09:12 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dugout, history, jimmy johnston, johnny evers

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   1. Dan Lee is a Big Hunk of Neufchâtel Posted: February 14, 2014 at 09:16 AM (#4656779)
Birthday Team isn't all that great, but at least the broadcasts will be good:

C: Earl Smith
1B: Candy LaChance
2B: Move Up Joe Gerhardt
3B: Larry Milbourne
SS: Arthur Irwin
LF: Len Gabrielson
CF: Lou Sylvester
RF: Augie Bergamo

SP: Pretzels Getzien
SP: Red Barrett
SP: Dave Dravecky
SP: Oscar Judd
SP: Jaime Cocanower
RP: Takashi Saito
RP: Damaso Marte

Broadcasters: Mel Allen and Dave Sims
Other Fun Names: Callix Crabbe, Harry Eells
Director of Scouting: ChadBradfordWannabe
   2. Are We Not Men? We Are Davo! Posted: February 14, 2014 at 10:14 AM (#4656810)
Can't find a good way to connect this to the birthday team, but last night, I discovered this:

The players of the past 100 years who have won the "Reverse Triple Crown"--finished last in the league (among qualifying* players) in batting average, homers, and RBI:

Ramon Santiago, American League, 2003—.225, 2 homers, 29 RBI in 507 plate appearances.

Ivan de Jesus, 1981, National League: .194, 0 homers, 13 RBI (460 plate appearances).

Ozzie Smith, 1979, National League: .211, 0 homers, 27 RBI.

Enzo Hernandez, 1971, National League: .222, 0 homers, 12 ############# RBI. In 618 plate appearances.

Mark Belanger, 1970, American League: .218, 1 homer, 36 RBI.

Willy Miranda, 1956, American League: .217, 2 homers, 32 RBI.

Skeeter Webb, 1945, American League: .199, 0 homers, 21 RBI. (for the World Champion Detroit Tigers—he started all 7 World Series games that year.)

Woody Williams, 1945, National League: .237, 0 homers, 27 RBI.

Ray Berres, 1940, National League: .192, 0 homers, 16 RBI.

Del Young, 1937, National League: .194, 0 homers, 24 RBI.

Otto Bleuge, 1933, National League: .213, 0 homers, 18 RBI.

Hal Rhyne, 1930, American League: .203, 0 homers, 23 RBI.

Bert Adams, 1918, National League: .176, 0 homers, 12 RBI.

Zeb Terry, 1916, American League: .190, 0 homers, 17 RBI.


* using BB-Ref's definition of "qualified"
   3. BDC Posted: February 14, 2014 at 10:24 AM (#4656814)
Otto Bluege was my great-uncle. I'm glad I didn't know about his reverse triple crown to mention it while he was alive :)

In 1920, there were two active Earl Smiths in the majors, as well as an Elmer Smith who, IIRC, hit the first World Series grand-slam home run. You really couldn't tell the players without a scorecard. Sometimes with.
   4. Kiko Sakata Posted: February 14, 2014 at 10:27 AM (#4656818)
Mark Belanger, 1970, American League: .218, 1 homer, 36 RBI.

...

Skeeter Webb, 1945, American League: .199, 0 homers, 21 RBI. (for the World Champion Detroit Tigers—he started all 7 World Series games that year.)


Belanger started every game of the World Series for the World Champion Orioles in 1970.
   5. Dan Lee is a Big Hunk of Neufchâtel Posted: February 14, 2014 at 10:29 AM (#4656821)
Ozzie Smith, 1979, National League: .211, 0 homers, 27 RBI.
This guy's terrible. We need to get rid of him, pronto. Think we could get Templeton for him?
   6. Are We Not Men? We Are Davo! Posted: February 14, 2014 at 11:48 AM (#4656882)
Belanger started every game of the World Series for the World Champion Orioles in 1970.


What an odd oversight on my part. I've sim-managed an entire season as the 1970 Orioles (on the old Microleague Baseball computer game)--just completely blanked for a moment, I guess!
   7. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 14, 2014 at 12:08 PM (#4656900)
In the expansion era, teams with the fewest players 30 or older:

Two teams had just 2
1983 Twins (Rick Lysander and Ron Washington)
1981 Twins (Glenn Adams and Jerry Koosman)

Many with 3
1999 White Sox (Darrin Jackson, Jaime Navarro, and Frank Thomas)
1999 Marlins (Archie Corbin, Kirt Ojala, Dennis Springer)
1994 Expos (Jeff Fassero, Jeff Gardner, Randy Milligan)
1992 Indians (Brook Jacoby, Junior Ortiz, Ted Power)
1982 Twins (Frenando Arroyo, Larry Milbourne, Ron Washington)
1981 Padres (John Curtis, Mike Phillips, Rick Wise)
1979 A's (Dave Hamilton, Jeff Newman, Jim Todd)
1976 Giants (Bobby Murcer, Marty Perez, Mike Sadek)
1973 Brewers (John Felske, Frank Linzy, Chris Short)
1968 A's (Jim Pagliaroni, Floyd Robinson, Diego Segui)

Only the '68 A's (82-80) and the '94 Expos (74-40) had winning records. VETERAN PRESENCE VALIDATED.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 14, 2014 at 12:12 PM (#4656903)
The teams with the most players over 30 ever is the '55 Orioles with 32 geezers. The 2004-2005 Red Sox and the 2005 Yankees each had 31 geezers over 30.

The 2005 Yanks have the most 35+ year old players ever with 17.
   9. Guapo Posted: February 14, 2014 at 01:12 PM (#4656950)
One of the more underrated accomplishments of my life was when I convinced a female friend of mine to use "Candy LaChance" as her pseudonym on her fake ID.

   10. Are We Not Men? We Are Davo! Posted: February 14, 2014 at 01:25 PM (#4656962)
#7--that's a pretty sad note on the 1994 Expos, all things considered. Jeez, they were all set to become a dynasty!
   11. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 14, 2014 at 03:25 PM (#4657065)
Speaking of former Expos (farmhands at least), Jake Westbrook to retire. He finishes 105-103 for his career. One of those rare first round picks traded three times before his 24th birthday.
   12. Dan Lee is a Big Hunk of Neufchâtel Posted: February 14, 2014 at 03:33 PM (#4657075)
I never knew what to make of Westbrook. Depending on how he was spotting his two-seamer, he tended to be either unhittable or a human batting tee, and never in between.

A nice career, though. My hat's off to Jake.
   13. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: February 14, 2014 at 03:36 PM (#4657079)
Davo, thanks for the reverse triple crown info. That's some accomplishment.
   14. Are We Not Men? We Are Davo! Posted: February 14, 2014 at 03:43 PM (#4657086)
13--You have the Lounger DCW3 to thank as well. Last night, he wrote:

My baseball trivia calendar today alerted me to the existence of Senators shortstop George McBride, who in 1914 became the first player to win the Reverse Triple Crown—finishing last in the league among qualifiers in batting average, home runs and RBIs. It does not mention, however, whether anyone has accomplished the feat since.


which is what put the idea in my head and got me to look them up.

(Now, curiously, BB-Ref does NOT state George McBride was a reverse triple crown winner--they're using a different source for "qualifier in batting average" than DCW's calendar.)
   15. Kiko Sakata Posted: February 14, 2014 at 03:56 PM (#4657098)
Davo, thanks for the reverse triple crown info. That's some accomplishment.


I agree. That's a cool list. And I love the fact that the list includes a (deserving) Hall-of-Famer and two World Series winners.
   16. bobm Posted: February 15, 2014 at 05:51 PM (#4657448)
Mere coincidence? Friday, Valentine’s Day, was when WFAN/CBS Radio chose to deliver word that New York’s most talked about couple — John Sterling and Suzyn Waldman — will be back.


http://nypost.com/2014/02/15/network-lets-listeners-decipher-russo-identify-scam-ads/

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