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Tuesday, February 18, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 2-18-2014

Milwaukee Journal, February 18, 1914:

Being a fireman at $1,200 a year is a better job than playing baseball with a major league at $2,000 or $2,500 a year, Frank Mace, fireman, says. Representatives of the Cleveland and Detroit clubs in the American league, Kansas City in the American association, and Montreal in the International league, have been heckling Mace several weeks to sign a contract.

“The fire department is good enough for me,” Mace declared. “But these clubs have been bothering me so much to sign up that they induced me to leave the city to talk it over.”

He had a guy on the other line about some whitewalls.

Dan Lee prefers good shortstops to great paintings Posted: February 18, 2014 at 09:08 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Lee prefers good shortstops to great paintings Posted: February 18, 2014 at 09:09 AM (#4658361)
An excellent offensive middle infield on today's Birthday Team. A sneaky-good roster.

C: Joe Tipton
1B: John Mayberry Sr.
2B/Manager: Joe Gordon
3B: Jamey Carroll
SS: John Valentin
LF: Manny Mota
CF: Alex Rios
RF: Larry Twitchell

SP: George Mogridge
SP: Kevin Tapani
SP: Sherry Smith
SP: Bruce Kison
SP: Shawn Estes
RP: Bob Miller

General Manager: Lou Gorman
Fun Names: Zip Zabel, Didi Gregorius
   2. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: February 18, 2014 at 09:23 AM (#4658371)
Being a fireman at $1,200 a year is a better job than playing baseball with a major league at $2,000 or $2,500 a year, Frank Mace, fireman, says.


Apparently, he stayed with the FD as there's no record of a Frank Mace playing pro ball. (Unless it's this guy...)
   3. BDC Posted: February 18, 2014 at 10:14 AM (#4658388)
When Bruce Kison was kicking butt for the '71 Pirates as an infant, I remember a "Clown-Question" interview that went something like this:

WRITER: "Bruce, do you shave every day?"
KISON: "Yes."
WRITER: "Do you need to shave every day, Bruce?"
KISON: "Why would I shave every day if I didn't need to?"
   4. crict Posted: February 18, 2014 at 10:41 AM (#4658403)
Being a fireman at $1,200 a year is a better job than playing baseball with a major league at $2,000 or $2,500 a year, Frank Mace, fireman, says.


Apparently, he stayed with the FD as there's no record of a Frank Mace playing pro ball. (Unless it's this guy...)


FA mentions pitching for Steubenville 3 years ago, so it's this guy.
   5. mathesond Posted: February 18, 2014 at 10:51 AM (#4658408)
I remember being 7 years old in 1977, and John Mayberry having a 3-HR day against my newly-beloved Blue Jays. When Toronto got him the next season, I was sure that he would lead them to a championship! Although that never happened, he showed up at an Etobicoke tyke league game I was playing in 1980, and signed autographs for all us kids after the game. Still my first favourite player (outside of Jackie Robinson; when the Jays came into being I devoured every baseball book I could find, and Jackie became my hero. Conversely, I hated the Yankees because they kept beating the Dodgers in the '40s and '50s. Lou Gehrig was the only pinstriper I read about that I didn't despise. Ah, to be a kid again!)
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 18, 2014 at 11:20 AM (#4658428)
Governor John L. McKeithin led a 30-man delegation from Louisiana that made a formal presentation to the American League for the Indians to play 30 of their home games in ther Superdome at New Orleans in 1974.

"The group made a fine presentation and we're appointing a committee to look into the main details before the league makes a determination," said American League Prsident Joe Cronin.

Opposition was heard from Charlie O. Finley, who moved his Athletics from Kansas City to Oakland in 1968. Finley contended that Cleveland Owner Vernon Stouffer would, in effect, be controlling two cities.
   7. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: February 18, 2014 at 12:18 PM (#4658467)
an Etobicoke tyke league game


This has gotta be something that only happens in Canada.
   8. esseff Posted: February 18, 2014 at 01:16 PM (#4658506)
When Bruce Kison was kicking butt for the '71 Pirates as an infant, I remember a "Clown-Question" interview


Wait, so Joe Nuxhall doesn't really hold the record?
   9. JJ1986 Posted: February 18, 2014 at 02:32 PM (#4658549)
Mets sign Dana Eveland and Buddy Carlyle to minor league contracts, confused about whether it's 2014 or 2008.
   10. Davo Dozier (Mastroianni) Posted: February 18, 2014 at 02:51 PM (#4658553)
Buddy Carlyle had video game numbers as a reliever in AAA last year.
   11. flournoy Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:11 PM (#4658568)
56 innings, 3.86 ERA. 76 strikeouts are nice. 10 home runs are not. Fine to sign to a minor league deal, but I'm not really seeing the video game numbers.
   12. Sweatpants Posted: February 18, 2014 at 03:30 PM (#4658578)
I didn't know that Carlyle had played for the Yankees in 2011. I can't imagine that many players have twice gone to Japan and twice made it back to the big leagues after that.

If he makes it on the Mets, this will be the fourth time he's come back to the majors after (at least) an entire season's absence.
   13. Dan Lee prefers good shortstops to great paintings Posted: February 18, 2014 at 04:20 PM (#4658612)
I have no stance on Buddy Carlyle, other than noting that it's tremendous that his name is Earl Lester Carlyle, and that I like the idea of Quad-A players who keep playing as long as they can find someone to pay them.

Obviously Carlyle loves to play baseball, because there's no other reason to bounce between Buffalo, Albuquerque, and Richmond while making $40K a year.

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