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Wednesday, February 19, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 2-19-2014

Milwaukee Journal, February 19, 1914:

The Boston National League Baseball Co. will take no chances on not getting the full value of Johnny Evers’ services and will take out an insurance policy, life and accident combined, on him in favor of the club for the princely sum of $100,000.
...
The club plans to insure Evers’ life with ordinary life insurance, with itself as beneficiary, so that if Johnny should die by illness if will not suffer.

The premium was probably higher than it otherwise would have been as a result of all those fudge orgies and nicotine sprees.

Also, this seems really creepy and weird.

Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 09:04 AM | 59 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 09:06 AM (#4658869)
Random thing I learned as a result of the Birthday Teams project: Two different people named Bob Sadowski played in the major leagues in 1963.

Birthday Team:
C: Russ Nixon
1B: Dick Siebert
2B: Stan Sperry
3B/Manager: John Morrill
SS: Alvaro Espinoza
LF: Russ Sullivan
CF: Don Taussig
RF: Josh Reddick

SP: Dave Stewart
SP: Miguel Batista
SP: Bob Sadowski
SP: Tom Earley
SP: Weldon Wyckoff
RP: Tim Burke

General Manager: Walt Jocketty
Play-By-Play: Dave Niehaus
   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 11:09 AM (#4658926)
I think Alvaro Epsinoza is like the first guy I saw in the big leagues and thought "how is this guy in the big leagues." But he actually had a lengthy career. His 8 HR in 1996 are the clearest indication the ball was juiced in that era.
   3. Davo Dozier Posted: February 19, 2014 at 11:32 AM (#4658932)
Does Johnny Evers always get tagged in the Dugout thread?
   4. Davo Dozier Posted: February 19, 2014 at 11:35 AM (#4658934)
Also: Yeah, so Oakland wound up doing okay on that Andrew Bailey-for-Josh Reddick swap, huh?

I seem to recall that was much maligned at the time.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 11:40 AM (#4658937)
Bailey for Reddick trade thread.

haha, I said stupid stuff.
   6. Davo Dozier Posted: February 19, 2014 at 11:54 AM (#4658948)
Me too!

The A's could very easily lose 100 games this year. This is a team bereft of Major League talent at this point.
   7. Rennie's Tenet Posted: February 19, 2014 at 12:21 PM (#4658967)
Is birthday pitcher Miguel Batista done? Did he pitch in winter ball?
   8. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 19, 2014 at 12:43 PM (#4658976)
I remember Griffey and A-Rod limping around a little bit after second baseman Alvaro Espinoza barreled into both of them on a pop-up to short center. They managed to avoid Espinoza's best efforts to end their careers.
   9. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM (#4658977)
According to this article, which claims to be from two days ago:
TORONTO (5) -- signed Miguel Batista, rhp, Arizona, to a $13.1 million, three-year contrac

I think the Padres overpaid for Rod Beck.
   10. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM (#4658978)
OK, that piece about the fudge orgies and nicotine sprees is a classic.
   11. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM (#4658979)
Also, this seems really creepy and weird.


Can't remember who, but someone did a documentary or story or what have you on this practice. Evidently lots of big companies take out policies on their employees.

Yep, creepy and weird.
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:01 PM (#4658981)
TRIVIA: Eight players have drawn 100 or more walks in the same season they collected 100 or fewer hits. One player did it twice. Can you name them? (Hint: 6 were in the expansion era).
   13. AndrewJ Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:06 PM (#4658984)
I'm guessing Barry Bonds is on the list.
   14. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:07 PM (#4658985)
Mark McGwire? Adam Dunn?
   15. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:07 PM (#4658986)
Yep, that's the easy one. Bonds did it twice - 2006 (115 walks/99 hits) and 2007 (132 walks/94 hits).

McGwire is a good guess, but incorrect. The closest he got was a 93 walk/97 hit season in 1991.

Not Dunn either, closest he came was a 105 walk/110 hit season in 2012.
   16. PreservedFish Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:11 PM (#4658992)
Sounds like an Eddie Yost factiod to me. And maybe some of the other walking Eddies too.
   17. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:13 PM (#4658994)
The closest Yost got was a 95 walk/91 hit season in '55.
   18. BDC Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:17 PM (#4658997)
Max Bishop is one. Wait, I looked him up and he's not. This is hard! In 1927 Bishop had 105 walks, 103 hits, so at least I was close.
   19. Davo Dozier Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:18 PM (#4658998)
I'll try to get some of the weirder guesses out of the way: Roy Thomas, Gene Tenace, Mickey Tettleton, Jimmy Sheckard, Morrie Rath, Max Bishop, Roy Cullenbine and Miller Huggins.
   20. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:21 PM (#4659000)
Yank Robinson did it twice in the 19th century, once each in the American Association and the Players League. He came within five hits of three-peating, but that's before the beginning of the trivia question's timeframe.
   21. PreservedFish Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:23 PM (#4659002)
Show me Rob Deer!
   22. PreservedFish Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:24 PM (#4659004)
God, Deer never walked 100 times. What a loser!
   23. BDC Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:24 PM (#4659005)
I keep guessing guys who were close – Dick McAuliffe, Jack Cust – but not quite. I will hang up and listen :)
   24. JJ1986 Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:29 PM (#4659009)
Jim Thome?
   25. Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:34 PM (#4659016)
Does Johnny Evers always get tagged in the Dugout thread?
Seems so. The Evers saga and the Federal League were the two big stories in the 1913-14 offseason.

Plus it gives me an excuse to reference fudge orgies and nicotine sprees.
   26. Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:36 PM (#4659017)
Cupid Childs? Lance Blankenship?
   27. Davo Dozier Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:37 PM (#4659018)
Oh, jeez, I didn't know we were picking stories from exactly 100 years ago!

I am such a dummy.
   28. AndrewJ Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:40 PM (#4659019)
How about Ted Williams?

EDIT: Nope. Never really came close, either.
   29. PreservedFish Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:45 PM (#4659023)
The language they use in these old newspapers is so zesty.

"As Waddell had been a demon since the first inning, there wasn't a hope in any man's breast. But you can never tell anything about the old pastime. Hinchman, first man up, rocked a bounder to McCormick and was snuffed out at first. Flick then cracked one between first and second that Jimma Williams made a great try to stab. Jimma couldn't quite reach the pill except with his foot, and he booted the horsehide into right field... "

This is how the same recap describes a pinch-hitting appearance:

"Burns was chased to the pan to wallop for Hohnhorst."

I guess maybe all this old baseball slang sounds exotic to modern ears, but it seems impossible to deny that these guys took more relish in their prose than the modern beat writers do.
   30. Guapo Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:47 PM (#4659025)
Jimmy Wynn
Jack Clark
   31. Davo Dozier Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:49 PM (#4659027)
Derek Norris did it in the minors as a 21 year-old in the Nationals' system in 2010. .241/.416/.457 in 466 PAs--100 walks, 85 hits.

No wonder Billy Beane liked him so much!
   32. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 19, 2014 at 01:55 PM (#4659029)
Eric Plunk, the great John D'Acquisto, Dick Weik, and Tommy Byrne gave up 100+ walks and <100 hits.
   33. Davo Dozier Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:01 PM (#4659033)
Ha! Just yesterday I made a list in the Lounge of the only pitchers to give up more walks than hits in a season (min. 162 innings pitched). Tommy Byrne was (of course) on it. The full list was:

1. Nolan Ryan (1977): 204 walks, 198 hits
2. Tommy Byrne (1949): 179 walks, 125 hits.
3. Randy Johnson (1991): 152 walks, 151 hits.
4. Bob Turley (1954 & 1955)
5. "Toothpick" Sam Jones (1955): 185 walks, 175 hits.
   34. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:03 PM (#4659036)
I'll try to get some of the weirder guesses out of the way: Roy Thomas, Gene Tenace, Mickey Tettleton, Jimmy Sheckard, Morrie Rath, Max Bishop, Roy Cullenbine and Miller Huggins.


Tenance and Tettleton are correct!

Gene Tenace drew 101 walks and had 90 hits in 1978.

Mickey Tettleton drew 106 walks with 99 hits in 1990.

Jimmy Wynn
Jack Clark


Both correct. Wynn had 127 walks and 93 hits in 1976. Clark had 104 walks and 89 hits in 1990.

There are three more, one from the last decade, the other two were pre-expansion (but after WWII). One is a HOFer. One was a manager. One had a 30 HR season at age 29, and was out of baseball just four seasons later.
   35. WahooSam Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:23 PM (#4659052)
Mickey Mantle?
   36. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:26 PM (#4659053)
Nope, twice Mantle drew more walks than hits, but the closest he came to meeting this criteria was his last year when he drew 106 walks and had 103 hits.
   37. Sweatpants Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:38 PM (#4659062)
Hank Greenberg?
Eddie Stanky?
Jack Cust?

Edit: Oh, Jack Cust was already an incorrect answer.
   38. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:39 PM (#4659063)
Homer Bailey extension official. 6/$105 with a $25 mill mutual option and $5 mill buyout
   39. WahooSam Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:39 PM (#4659064)
Jim Thome or Frank Thomas in an injury year?
   40. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:44 PM (#4659072)
Greenburg is correct! 104 walks and 100 hits in 1947.

Cust got very close a few times, but managed to get 100 hits when he drew 100 walks.

Not Frank, not Thome.

The recent guy was a one-time All-Star who clubbed 36 HR, but by age 33 he was completely out of baseball.

The manager was a catcher who only played 140+ games once in his career. He served in the war, and later was the second manager in a franchises's history.
   41. WahooSam Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:50 PM (#4659078)
No idea who the recent guy is, but the manager must be Earl Torgeson
   42. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:54 PM (#4659081)
That's a really good guess, but no, not Torgeson. He never managed.
   43. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:56 PM (#4659082)
The recent guy was a one-time All-Star who clubbed 36 HR, but by age 33 he was completely out of baseball.


Morgan Ensberg?
   44. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:57 PM (#4659087)
Ensberg is correct! 101 walks and 91 hits in 2006. I forgot he was pretty good for a couple of years, then...poof...he was gone.
   45. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: February 19, 2014 at 02:58 PM (#4659089)
The manager was a catcher who only played 140+ games once in his career. He served in the war, and later was the second manager in a franchises's history.


Del Crandall?
   46. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 03:21 PM (#4659128)
Nope not Crandall.

His first name is in his last name!
   47. Bitter Mouse Posted: February 19, 2014 at 03:31 PM (#4659135)
I just wanted to note that I love the dugout/daily posts. I will never in a million years get any of the trivia, but I still enjoy reading about it. Thank you everyone involved.
   48. Guapo Posted: February 19, 2014 at 03:50 PM (#4659151)
Wes Westrum
   49. Davo Dozier Posted: February 19, 2014 at 04:00 PM (#4659157)
Roy Thomas was not correct, but please take a look at his stats when you have a chance. During his peak from 1900-1907, he hit .294/.420/.334, leading the league in walks 7 times, despite being one of the worst power hitters of his time.

In 1900, he had 161 singles, 4 doubles, 3 triples, and 0 homers....and drew 115 walks. A .316/.455/.335 line. It just looks like a misprint!
   50. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 04:02 PM (#4659161)
Wes Westrum is correct. 104 walks and just 79 hits in 1951. He was the second manager in Mets history.
   51. PreservedFish Posted: February 19, 2014 at 04:27 PM (#4659193)
A .316/.455/.335 line. It just looks like a misprint!


Looks like my little league line.
   52. just plain joe Posted: February 19, 2014 at 04:33 PM (#4659199)
A .316/.455/.335 line. It just looks like a misprint!


Throw him fastballs and bunch him around the mound.
   53. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 04:36 PM (#4659201)
Wes Westrum is correct. 104 walks and just 79 hits in 1951. He was the second manager in Mets history.

he's also the one who referred to a very tight, exciting game as " a real cliff-dweller"
   54. Davo Dozier Posted: February 19, 2014 at 05:45 PM (#4659253)
10 times in baseball history (since 1876) has a player hit over .300 in a full season (500 PAs), and had at least 90% of their hits be singles.

Roy Thomas has five of them.
   55. Davo Dozier Posted: February 19, 2014 at 05:48 PM (#4659255)
Otis Nixon was two hits away from doing it in 1998 with the Twins.
   56. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 05:52 PM (#4659258)
Maury Wills? Luis Castillo? Wee Willie Keeler?
   57. Davo Dozier Posted: February 19, 2014 at 05:59 PM (#4659262)
Maury Wills? Luis Castillo? Wee Willie Keeler?
Whoops, sorry, suppose that was an unintentional teaser!

Keeler did it twice, Patsy Donovan twice, and Harry Taylor for the 1890 Louisville Colonels (American Association) was the final one.
   58. Davo Dozier Posted: February 19, 2014 at 06:01 PM (#4659265)
Roy Thomas's 1900 season (161 of his 168 hits were singles) is indeed highest "Single Percentage" in baseball history--ever so slightly higher than Keeler's 1898 (when 206 of his 216 hits were singles).
   59. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 19, 2014 at 06:02 PM (#4659266)
Liam Hendriks could be the next waiver wire journeyman this winter. Already having gone from Minnesota to the Cubs to Baltimore this offseason, the O's placed him on waivers today to make room for Ubaldo Jimenez.

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