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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 2-21-2014

Spring Training 1914

Hugh Fullerton in the Pittsburgh Press, February 21, 1914:

The spring training trips of major league ball clubs are the annual joke of the game, and they are largely responsible for the poorer quality of baseball dished out to the fans.
...
In 20 years of going south with major league baseball teams I never have seen a team that was not in better condition at the end of two weeks of training than it was when it started the season. A seasoned player…at the end of 10 days or two weeks will be in nearly top condition to play baseball. Then satisfied with his own condition he has a pleasure trip of five or six weeks in the south, working as little as possible.
...
Some day some wise manager will wait until about March 25, take his team down to the middle south for two weeks of real work and then get his advertising by playing real baseball right from the jump.

Here’s a photo of Hugh Fullerton’s cat.

The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: February 21, 2014 at 09:15 AM | 34 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: February 21, 2014 at 09:22 AM (#4660122)
Today's Birthday Team is Alan Trammell, a handful of not-awful players, and a bunch of awful players. Cromulent pitching staff.

C: Joel Skinner
1B: Oscar Azocar*
2B: Ted Savage*
3B: Joe Foy
SS/Manager: Alan Trammell
LF: Tom Shopay
CF: Franklin Gutierrez
RF: John Titus

SP: Dummy Taylor
SP: Jouett Meekin
SP: Jack Billingham
SP: Fred Newman
SP: Snipe Hansen
RP: Rick Lysander

Memorable Career: Adam Greenberg
Quarterback: Chad Hutchinson

* - Neither Azocar nor Savage is really an infielder, but both made one appearance at the position to which I've assigned them. Oddly enough, no "real" first basemen or second basemen were born on February 21.
   2. BDC Posted: February 21, 2014 at 10:07 AM (#4660139)
Any team with Silent John Titus has a chance. Dude could play baseball.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 21, 2014 at 10:53 AM (#4660164)
Ten players in the divisional era have qualified for the batting title and hit .300 with NO home runs. Can you name them?

In chronological order:
1. The only HOFer from his country, although that will soon change
2. Fifth all time in pinch hits. Struck out just 250 times in over 4300 PAs.
3. Aside from his .300 season, he was a career .214 hitter.
4. One-time All-Star who did not hit a home run over the last 2500 PAs of his career
5. Won a Silver Slugger award for his homerless season, despite just 23 XBH in a strike-shortened season.
6. Finished 2nd in MVP balloting for his homerless year.
7. Three-time Gold Glove winner who was the first non-pitcher in franchise history to win the Gold Glove.
8. Hit .327 at age 36, the highest of his career, and just his second .300 season.
9. Led the league in triples five times, was once traded for the last pitcher to lose 19 games twice in his career.
10.Tied for the longest hitting streak ever for a second baseman.

A weird common thread I found is that a lot of these guys had a season or two where they had very high (20+) caught stealing numbers.
   4. Sweatpants Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:03 AM (#4660169)
1) Rod Carew
6) Ozzie Smith?
8) Jamey Carroll?
9) Lance Johnson
   5. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:04 AM (#4660171)
I would have guessed Penitentiary Face Leonard, but I don't think he fits any of the descriptions.
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:07 AM (#4660177)
Carew, Ozzie, and Lance Johnson are correct.
   7. BDC Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:07 AM (#4660178)
#10 is Luis Castillo.
   8. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:07 AM (#4660179)
3 Miguel Dilone?
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:09 AM (#4660184)
Luis and Dilone are correct. I was going to say "one of JoPo's favorite players" but I didn't want 25 Duane Kuiper responses.

Hit .341 in 1980, .214 the rest of his career. That's gotta be the biggest outlier ever.
   10. Sweatpants Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:12 AM (#4660186)
2) Greg Gross?
7) Harold Reynolds?
   11. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:12 AM (#4660187)
Kirby Puckett would have done it with one more 3-for-3 game his rookie year.
   12. The District Attorney Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:13 AM (#4660188)
#8 = Willie Randolph?
   13. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:27 AM (#4660196)
Gross, Reynolds, and Randolph are correct.

So that leaves #4 and #5. Both are players that are still fairly visible today.
   14. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:30 AM (#4660199)
#5 is Pete Rose.

-- MWE
   15. The District Attorney Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:43 AM (#4660207)
#4 = Ozzie Guillen?
   16. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:44 AM (#4660208)
The Hit King (Rose) is correct. #4 is not Guillen.
   17. Tom Nawrocki Posted: February 21, 2014 at 11:54 AM (#4660217)
4: Duane Kuiper?
   18. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 21, 2014 at 12:10 PM (#4660230)
NOT DUANE KUIPER!
   19. mathesond Posted: February 21, 2014 at 12:21 PM (#4660234)
Juan Pierre?
   20. JJ1986 Posted: February 21, 2014 at 12:22 PM (#4660236)
4: Ron Hunt?
   21. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 21, 2014 at 12:23 PM (#4660237)
Not Pierre. This guy had his homerless season in a strike year. He's a color analyst now.
   22. The District Attorney Posted: February 21, 2014 at 12:39 PM (#4660249)
Doug Glanville?
   23. JJ1986 Posted: February 21, 2014 at 12:52 PM (#4660258)
Not Hunt, but he came really close. >.300 with no home runs in 486 PAs one year.
   24. BDC Posted: February 21, 2014 at 01:29 PM (#4660303)
I had to look #4 up – heck, I only knew Castillo because he comes up in other trivia questions, like who led a team in walks without hitting a HR, or who had the least value while batting .300 or making a long hitting streak.

#4 had a stretch of three seasons and 999 PAs in which he batted .305 without a home run. Cool.
   25. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 21, 2014 at 01:43 PM (#4660313)
Not Glanville. Earlier strike-shortened year.
   26. Moeball Posted: February 21, 2014 at 01:59 PM (#4660329)
Apparently today is Detroit Tigers day, all about Tigers past and present based on all the threads I'm seeing:

1) It's Alan Trammell's birthday! Happy Birthday 2 U!
2) Ty Cobb almost didn't hit .400 in 1922
3) Tigers from Venezuela worried about political stuff back home
4) Doug Fister
5) What was the Tigers' front office thinking?

Even got a Denny McLain mention in one of the threads and, as always, Jack Morris...
   27. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: February 21, 2014 at 02:08 PM (#4660336)
I think this Fullerton fellow may be on to something
   28. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 21, 2014 at 02:51 PM (#4660363)
Enough time has elapsed. #4 on the list is Red Sox infielder Jerry Remy! Went homerless the last six seasons of his career, including his .307 season in 1981.
   29. A Dying Soul Posted: February 21, 2014 at 02:55 PM (#4660370)
#4 Jerry Remy?

dang didnt see your post lol just found it on baseball reference
   30. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 21, 2014 at 03:19 PM (#4660399)
   31. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 21, 2014 at 04:43 PM (#4660461)
Last November I ran a simulation where 30 fans could serve as GMs and work out trades with each other and negotiate free agents contracts with me. Here is how they did compared to the actual contracts divied out.

Overall, our GMs dished out $1.785 billion for these free agents. In real life, GMs paid $1.775 billion for these players.
   32. An Athletic in Powderhorn™ Posted: February 21, 2014 at 05:55 PM (#4660495)
A few years from now, I bet the answers to that question will include Ben Revere. 2 years ago he missed by 4 hits (553 PAs, .294). Last year he was on pace to do it but in July broke his foot with a foul ball and missed the rest of the season.
   33. Rennie's Tenet Posted: February 21, 2014 at 07:39 PM (#4660558)
Andre Ethier tried to murder Sandy Koufax.


Didn't help to have Jim Lefebvre standing there yelling, "Sandy! Sandy! What have you done with Sandy? You killed Sandy!"
   34. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: February 22, 2014 at 11:26 PM (#4660908)
I liked your sim a lot, AG#1F, kept it bookmarked.

Andrew Bailey to NYY on a minor league deal, w/ tons of incentives. (sez Olney)
Justin Sellers DFA'd by LAD. I know people are down on him, but that glove is useful to keep in your org.
Tyler Colvin inked by SFG on a minor league deal.
Not sure what I think about Erisbel Arruebarruena getting 5/25M from LAD. His rating in BA's handbook and Davenport #s suggest that that's a dramatic overpay, but the glove is legit and MLB rules make overpaying for experienced Cuban emigres not the worst idea (no draft pick implications, don't count against int'l signing limits).

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