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Friday, February 24, 2017

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 2-24-2017

El Paso Herald, February 24, 1917:

Gus Hoover, Stanford’s giant twirler, is against the presence of women at Stanford, against dances and all such affairs. The combined force of these is inducive to the weakening of his pitching arm, says Hoover.

This became known in campus baseball circles when Gus reported a sore arm to trainer Fritz Roth. He said he was in no condition to pitch, and when asked how he came about his arm, Gus explained thusly:

“You see, we had a dance last night and I had to support all those heavy girls on my right arm, and the strain was too great.”

C’mon, Gus, that just means you’ve gotta spend more time training with the ladies. Think of it as a muscle-building program.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: February 24, 2017 at 10:46 AM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: February 24, 2017 at 10:49 AM (#5408014)
Today's Birthday Team features two no-doubt Hall of Famers and one of the greatest pitchers in Pirates history. Not too shabby.

C: Earl Grace (6.94 WAR)
1B: Eddie Murray (68.26 WAR)
2B: Miguel Rojas (1.82 WAR)
3B: Mike Lowell (24.8 WAR)
SS/Manager: Honus Wagner (130.97 WAR)
LF: Nick Esasky (8.19 WAR)
CF: Bubba Phillips (3.07 WAR)
RF: Fred Sington (1.79 WAR)

SP: Wilbur Cooper (53.77 WAR)
SP: Bronson Arroyo (26.49 WAR)
SP: Bugs Raymond (6.98 WAR)
SP: Lynn Nelson (6.56 WAR)
SP: Nick Blackburn (3.27 WAR)
RP: Rene Arocha (1.37 WAR)

Fun names: Stubby Clapp, Champ Osteen, Con Lucid, Pinky Pittenger
The Real Deal: J.D. Durbin
What's the best way to grow a Bob?: Bob Seeds
   2. Tom Nawrocki Posted: February 24, 2017 at 11:01 AM (#5408024)
Bob Seeds was also known as Suitcase Seeds, which are apparently the best way to grow a suitcase. This is a great birthday team for nicknames - Honus, Bubba, Bugs, Stubby, Champ, Pinky, Suitcase, plus Lynn Nelson was known as "Line Drive Nelson," because of what people used to hit off of him.
   3. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: February 24, 2017 at 11:07 AM (#5408028)
Actor Shia Lebeouf is exactly as old as Mookie Wilson was the day he ruined Bill Buckner's life (11,216 days).

Actress Drew Barrymore is exactly as old as Satchel Paige was the day he made his MLB debut (15,343 days).


Anyone who wants to look up these as-old-as items for their own lives (or for their family/friends) can do so here.
   4. Rennie's Tenet Posted: February 24, 2017 at 11:30 AM (#5408046)
In Joe Posnanski's bizarrely suspended Baseball 100, he had Nap Lajoie ranked No. 49 (23rd by bWAR) and Eddie Collins No. 40 (13th). The one thing I was curious about in the series was whether his timelining would be so strong that it would knock Wagner, 10th by bWAR, down to maybe the 20's.

With actual games starting now, I'd like to thank Dan Lee for doing this every day. It's one very few internet places I check every day, and though the Dugout is always appreciated it's especially so in this last month or so before real baseball returns.
   5. BDC Posted: February 24, 2017 at 11:41 AM (#5408058)
By 8/24/27, the Brooklyn Robins had had three straight off-days. There had been rain in New York earlier in the week, but the 24th appears to have been a scheduled Wednesday off-day. Dazzy Vance starts "tomorrow." Maybe by Monday I will have new news of our boys. And by midweek, as Rennie's comment reminds me, it will be September in my virtual 1927 season, which runs counter to the calendar by six months. By the time it's time for the 1927 World Series, we will be in the 2017 regular season :)
   6. GGC Posted: February 24, 2017 at 11:52 AM (#5408067)
BDC, I checked out The Celebrant from library. Whether or not I get to it (I have a couple of other books I'm nosedeep in,) is another story; but at least I made the first step.
   7. esseff Posted: February 24, 2017 at 11:53 AM (#5408069)
So successful was Gus Hoover, Stanford's giant twirler, that today the school hosts an institution named for him. [/alternatefacts]
   8. BDC Posted: February 24, 2017 at 11:57 AM (#5408075)
GGC, I think you will like The Celebrant. It's more naturalistic than Coover or Kinsella, but it's got some touches of magical realism.

I started reading John Carvalho's new biography of Ford Frick. Frick is kind of a forgotten Commissioner, or would be except for the Roger Maris "asterisk," but he had quite the roaring-Twenties early life as a golden-age sportswriter.

   9. Perry Posted: February 24, 2017 at 12:12 PM (#5408090)
I found The Celebrant unputdownable once I started it. Pretty quick read, too.
   10. GGC Posted: February 24, 2017 at 12:43 PM (#5408124)
Coover wasn't an easy read for me. I browsed a couple of his other works after reading the UBA and couldn't get far. The subject matter of the UBA is what got me through it.
   11. BDC Posted: February 24, 2017 at 12:53 PM (#5408135)
I remember reading The Public Burning when it came out (40 years ago!) but it was a slog, I agree.

Coover is 85 and has a new novel out, a sort of Huck Finn & Tom Sawyer fanfic sequel where the boys fight in the Civil War, called Huck Out West.
   12. Man o' Schwar Posted: February 24, 2017 at 01:00 PM (#5408146)
With actual games starting now, I'd like to thank Dan Lee for doing this every day. It's one very few internet places I check every day, and though the Dugout is always appreciated it's especially so in this last month or so before real baseball returns.

Hear hear.

Actress Drew Barrymore is exactly as old as Satchel Paige was the day he made his MLB debut (15,343 days).

Fuuuuuuuuu. I'm getting so old.
   13. JJ1986 Posted: February 24, 2017 at 01:01 PM (#5408147)
Woohoo, I've got baseball on the radio!
   14. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: February 24, 2017 at 02:19 PM (#5408228)
Gotta love ST stats. Gavin Checchini: .500/.500/2.000/2.500
   15. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: February 24, 2017 at 02:26 PM (#5408243)
Michael Conforto: 1.000/1.000/2.500/3.500
   16. GGC Posted: February 24, 2017 at 03:43 PM (#5408330)
Charlie, what's the origin of your handle?
   17. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: February 24, 2017 at 04:58 PM (#5408422)
Charlie, what's the origin of your handle?

He roots for the NY Mets.
   18. Hysterical & Useless Posted: February 24, 2017 at 05:25 PM (#5408463)
I remember reading The Public Burning when it came out (40 years ago!) but it was a slog


Huh, I loved that book. But then I was fascinated by the Rosenberg case.

He roots for the NY Mets.


We do tend to be the strong, silent type. I'm sure others have noticed how closely Mr Met resembles Gary Cooper.
   19. GGC Posted: February 26, 2017 at 09:03 AM (#5408897)
He roots for the NY Mets.


Not THAT part. I was wondering what there were no words for.

I found The Celebrant unputdownable once I started it. Pretty quick read, too.


I knocked out the first of five chapters yesterday. So far, so good.
   20. GGC Posted: February 27, 2017 at 10:00 AM (#5409280)
Didn't read The Celebrant on Sunday. I'm concentrating on finishing David Hajdu's Love For Sale first and am almost done.
   21. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: February 27, 2017 at 10:16 AM (#5409297)
Charlie, what's the origin of your handle?

He roots for the NY Mets.


Well, yes...

At the end of the 1969 World Series, with the massed hoards on the field at Shea Stadium, Mets fan Karl Erhardt -- "The Sign Man" -- held up a placard emblazoned "There Are No Words." I started using it as my handle, IIRC, right around the end of the Omar Minaya regime, when there was a new Mets blunder seemingly every day (Francisco Rodriguez beating up his girlfriend's father, Tony Bernazard shirtlessly taking on the entire minor league system, Minaya himself calling out Adam Rubin, etc.)

So it works 2 ways.
   22. GGC Posted: February 27, 2017 at 10:43 AM (#5409311)
Thanks! If I ever heard that Sign Man story, I've forgotten it over the years. I recently read John Sexton's Baseball as a Road to God and Sexton wrote about ineffability. That made me think of your handle.

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