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Monday, February 25, 2013

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 2-25-2013

San Francisco Call, February 25, 1913:

President Farrell of the New York American league club received today a cable from Manager Chance saying the players who left here last Saturday for Bermuda arrived at Hamilton today after a rough voyage. The message added that real training would begin tomorrow, when all of the players are expected to be fully recovered from sea sickness.

20th century problems.

Jerry Lumpe Rutherford (Dan Lee) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 07:26 AM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jerry Lumpe Rutherford (Dan Lee) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 07:27 AM (#4375507)
Also in the San Francisco Call 100 years ago today:
The B'nai B'rith 145 pounders defaulted to the Swastika team.
:-O
   2. Jerry Lumpe Rutherford (Dan Lee) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 07:33 AM (#4375508)
An excellent group of position players on today's Birthday Team:
C: Bob Brenly
1B: Cesar Cedeno
2B: Howard Earl
3B: Ron Santo
SS: Jack Lohrke
LF: Monte Irvin
CF: Andy Pafko
RF: Paul O'Neill

SP: Denny Lemaster
SP: Al Hollingsworth
SP: Ed Lynch
SP: Jim Britt
SP: Dana Kiecker
RP: Ken Dayley

Manager: Johnny Kling
General Manager: Syd Thrift
Owner: Jerry Reinsdorf
   3. AndrewJ Posted: February 25, 2013 at 09:05 AM (#4375528)
The B'nai B'rith 145 pounders defaulted to the Swastika team.

Giving Seth Macfarlane material for another dozen incredibly lame Oscar jokes.
   4. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: February 25, 2013 at 09:11 AM (#4375529)
Baseball history item at THT notes that today marks 40,000 days since the Pirates all-time franchise record was last at .500. They've been over .500 ever since.
   5. BochysFingers Posted: February 25, 2013 at 09:26 AM (#4375532)
So which hitter/pitcher has had the most plate appearances/innings pitched for having all of their appearances in September?
   6. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: February 25, 2013 at 09:43 AM (#4375538)
An excellent group of position players on today's Birthday Team:


Nitpick, but I'd probably reverse roles for Brenly and Kling. Kling was the better catcher, and Brenly managed 3.5 times more games than Kling. That is one butt-ugly pitching staff.
   7. Jerry Lumpe Rutherford (Dan Lee) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 10:11 AM (#4375542)
Nitpick, but I'd probably reverse roles for Brenly and Kling. Kling was the better catcher, and Brenly managed 3.5 times more games than Kling.
Good call. This is what happens when I build rosters before I'm completely awake.
   8. Jerry Lumpe Rutherford (Dan Lee) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 10:29 AM (#4375551)
Trivia from Dag Nabbit's book: Only one team in MLB history has had three managers in the same season, all of whom won 1,000+ games in their career. Name the team and season.

Hint: None of the managers are still active as managers, but all are still alive.
   9. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 10:45 AM (#4375562)
General Manager: Syd Thrift
Owner: Jerry Reinsdorf

As a Bulls fan, my gut instinct is to turn this into some kind of "Jerry Reinsdorf is cheap" joke, even though that probably applies less to baseball.

Maybe that's why the pitching staff on this birthday team isn't very good.
   10. Random Transaction Generator Posted: February 25, 2013 at 10:49 AM (#4375564)
Trivia from Dag Nabbit's book: Only one team in MLB history has had three managers in the same season, all of whom won 1,000+ games in their career. Name the team and season.


I figured it out after having to confirm who the 2nd (place holder) manager was for that season.
I knew #1 and #3 had 1000+ wins, but I couldn't remember who the middle guy was.
When I saw the name, I knew I had the answer.

   11. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 11:17 AM (#4375580)
My first instinct is one of the early 80s Yankees years with Billy Martin and Lou Piniella, but I don't think they ever overlapped, and I don't know who the third would be.

Whitey Herzog and Dick Williams both managed the Angels one year, but Bobby Winkles didn't win 1000. Herzog also managed with Billy Martin, but Del Wilber didn't win 1000 (and Wilber and Martin are dead).

So....I'm stumped.
   12. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: February 25, 2013 at 11:25 AM (#4375583)
Interesting little tidbit I found while researching the trivia. Dusty Baker has never been hired nor fired mid season.
   13. Jerry Lumpe Rutherford (Dan Lee) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 11:26 AM (#4375584)
You're on the right track, RoyalsRetro. One of the guys you mentioned is part of the trio...and only two of the 1000-game winners you mentioned are still alive.
   14. Jerry Lumpe Rutherford (Dan Lee) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 11:27 AM (#4375586)
BTW, the fifth image that comes up if you do a Google Image Search for Lou Piniella is spectacular.
   15. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: February 25, 2013 at 11:27 AM (#4375587)
Whitey Herzog and Dick Williams both managed the Angels one year, but Bobby Winkles didn't win 1000. Herzog also managed with Billy Martin, but Del Wilber didn't win 1000 (and Wilber and Martin are dead).

So....I'm stumped.


You're nearly there.
   16. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: February 25, 2013 at 11:28 AM (#4375589)
For watching college baseball, which series should I see and which Friday games should I make a point of seeing?

UNC, NC State, Clemson, Miami, Va Tech.
   17. Der-K thinks the Essex Green were a good band. Posted: February 25, 2013 at 11:30 AM (#4375591)
UNC for best team.
NC State on a Friday for best pitcher.

Why is there no college baseball thread?
   18. Tom Nawrocki Posted: February 25, 2013 at 12:06 PM (#4375614)
My first thought was when Whitey Herzog replaced Jack McKeon as manager of the Royals. Both those guys won 1000 games, and those guys fit the still alive/not active clue.... but there was no third interim manager.
   19. esseff Posted: February 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM (#4375620)
So which hitter/pitcher has had the most plate appearances/innings pitched for having all of their appearances in September?


The first guy who came to mind was Gene Roof, whose major-league career consisted of 100 PAs in September/October and five in April, over three seasons. Not the right answer, obviously.
   20. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 12:37 PM (#4375627)
While looking up this answer I saw the 1980 Cardinals had four managers - Ken Boyer, Jack Krol, Whitey Herzog, and Red Schoendheist. Aside from the "College of Coaches", has any team ever had five managers in one year?
   21. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 12:43 PM (#4375632)
While looking up this answer I saw the 1980 Cardinals had four managers - Ken Boyer, Jack Krol, Whitey Herzog, and Red Schoendheist. Aside from the "College of Coaches", has any team ever had five managers in one year?
   22. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM (#4375633)
Oops, sorry for the double post. Finally found the right answer. Hint: After the third manager was eventually fired a few seasons later, and his interim was let go, the team hired an other 1000 win manager.
   23. SoSH U at work Posted: February 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM (#4375638)
While looking up this answer I saw the 1980 Cardinals had four managers - Ken Boyer, Jack Krol, Whitey Herzog, and Red Schoendheist. Aside from the "College of Coaches", has any team ever had five managers in one year?


The 1977 Rangers had four managers in 8 days, but they never did add the fifth.

   24. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: February 25, 2013 at 12:50 PM (#4375639)
Man, everyone is circling right around the answers, but no one's quite there. ..

While looking up this answer I saw the 1980 Cardinals had four managers - Ken Boyer, Jack Krol, Whitey Herzog, and Red Schoendheist. Aside from the "College of Coaches", has any team ever had five managers in one year?

Check the 1890s Cardinals. I had five managers in a year three different times. And two more seasons w/ four managers. That Chris von der Ahe sure was something.
   25. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 02:59 PM (#4375741)
Last summer 1B Lars Anderson was a Red Sox minor leaguer. He was then traded to Cleveland in July for P/comedian Steven Wright. Cleveland dealt him to Arizona in the Shin Soo Choo/Trevor Bauer deal. Arizona DFAed him and the White Sox claimed him. The White Sox DFAed him, and today the Blue Jays claimed him.

   26. Jerry Lumpe Rutherford (Dan Lee) Posted: February 25, 2013 at 06:17 PM (#4375906)
The final update from Birthday League 2:
February 6          100  54  .649 ----  
February 5          100  54  .649 ----        
January 31           97  57  .630  3.0 
February 10          97  57  .630  3.0        
February 17          86  68  .558 14.0 
February 18          85  69  .552 15.0        
February 15          85  69  .552 15.0
February 21          43 111  .279 57.0
News and Notes:
* February 5 and February 6 both went 7-3 in their final ten games, both losing game 150 and winning games 151-154.
* February 6 run differential: +226
* February 5 run differential: +220
* Head to Head: February 5 won season series 3-1.
* Babe Ruth (February 6) won everything there is to win. In addition to a (tie) pennant and his team's 100 wins, Ruth won the triple crown (.370-62-140) and led the league in runs scored (159), walks (137), intentional walks (24), strikeouts (137), slugging (.812), on-base percentage (.493), runs created per 27 outs (16.7), total bases (446), home runs vs. LHP (17), home runs vs. RHP (45), wins (24), winning percentage (.960), ERA (1.58), complete games (13), hits per nine innings (6.35), home runs per nine innings (0.07), and run support (6.32). Oh, and he had a 24-1 win-loss record.
* Charlie Jamieson (February 7) led the league with 210 hits.
* Honus Wagner (February 24) led the league with 50 doubles.
* Sliding Billy Hamilton (February 15) led the league with 68 stolen bases. Wagner swiped 66 bags.
* Unsurprisingly, Hank Aaron (February 5) was second in RC/27 (9.4).
* Bob Wickman (February 6) won 21 games. Pretty good pitcher plus Babe Ruth playing out of his mind equals wins galore.
* Nolan Ryan (January 31) went 20-9 with a 2.70 ERA and 294 strikeouts in 287 innings.
* J.J. Putz (Debruary 22) led the league with 34 saves.
* There were no no-hitters. One-hitters thrown: Orval Overall (February 2), Devern Hansack (February 5), Nolan Ryan, John Wyckoff (February 19), Buck Ross (February 3), Scott Elarton (February 23).

Stats, standings, box scores, and league leaders here.

Birthday League 3 (February 26-March 25) will begin within a few days.
   27. Mike Webber Posted: February 25, 2013 at 09:15 PM (#4376005)
---RUNSCREATED/27OUT---  
B.Ruth   206  16.7 
H
.Aaron  205  9.4 
B
.Hamilton 215  8.8 
W
.Marshall 208  8.2 
L
.Berkman 210  8.1 
R
.Alomar 205  8.1 
C
.Jamieson 207  8.0 
B
.Bonilla 223  7.7 
H
.Wagner 224  7.6 
L
.Dykstra 210  7.4 
B
.Oglivie 211  7.4 
S
.Schumaker 203  7.2 

I think if I owned Honus Wagner in this league I'd feel a little let down by his performance.
   28. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: February 25, 2013 at 09:48 PM (#4376024)
Thanks to the hints above, I guessed the 3 manager group, in the right order. I didn't know the year though.
   29. salvomania Posted: February 25, 2013 at 11:00 PM (#4376041)
It was Herzog, Schoendienst, and Joe Torre. And I knew it as soon as I saw the question, but I didn't see the question until 10pm tonight.

EDIT: I'm going to guess 1990 was the year. Let's see if that's right.
EDIT2: And it is right.
   30. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: February 26, 2013 at 05:59 AM (#4376130)
Why is there no college baseball thread?

Because no one has even watched college baseball, ever.

The 1977 Rangers had four managers in 8 days, but they never did add the fifth.

No, but watching that team certainly made you want to drink a fifth.

February 6 100 54 .649 ----
February 5 100 54 .649 ----


So, will we see a one-game playoff? On TBS, maybe?

   31. Jerry Lumpe Rutherford (Dan Lee) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:25 AM (#4376134)
So, will we see a one-game playoff? On TBS, maybe?
We're working on getting Eckersley and Victorino into the studio for the pregame show.

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