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Tuesday, February 26, 2013

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 2-26-2013

John McGraw gets racist in an attempt to stop the Mexican Revolution. San Francisco Call, February 26, 1913:

Manager McGraw has handed down his ultimatum and declares that if the Mexicans cut up any more capers he will send Jim Thorpe and Jeff Tesreau down there to mix things up with the Greasers.

Sometimes, reading old newspapers is like peering into a universe I barely recognize.

Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:20 AM | 24 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: casual racism, dugout, history

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   1. Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:24 AM (#4376133)
One heck of a starting rotation on today's Birthday Team. Center field is a bit of a problem, though. Darrell Miller's a catcher who made eight appearances in CF and is the third-best athlete among the Miller siblings.

C: Johnny Blanchard
1B: J.T. Snow
2B: Dustin Ackley
3B: Kelly Gruber
SS: David Howard
LF: Danny Gardella
CF: Darrell Miller
RF: Mark DeRosa

SP: Pete Alexander
SP: Preacher Roe
SP: Rip Collins
SP: Don Lee
SP: Josh Towers
RP: Ron Negray

Heisman Winner: Vic Janowicz
Not that one: Jose Reyes, Francisco Rodriguez
   2. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: February 26, 2013 at 08:05 AM (#4376137)
"The past is a different country" -- Some old guy
   3. Hack Wilson Posted: February 26, 2013 at 08:41 AM (#4376144)
Sometimes, reading old newspapers is like peering into a universe I barely recognize.
You don't know any tea-baggers?
   4. Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 08:53 AM (#4376148)
Certainly I don't hang out with people I know to use racist slurs. I have friends of all political persuasions, but racism is something I can't deal with.
   5. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 10:05 AM (#4376183)
Who would you send down there to mix it up with the greasers?
   6. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: February 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM (#4376213)
Who would you send down there to mix it up with the greasers?


"Handy Andy" Pafko?
   7. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: February 26, 2013 at 11:23 AM (#4376238)
Sometimes, reading old newspapers is like peering into a universe I barely recognize.

You don't know any tea-baggers?


Aaaaand we're off...!!
   8. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 11:51 AM (#4376264)
Who would you send down there to mix it up with the greasers?

Ponyboy?
   9. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: February 26, 2013 at 12:17 PM (#4376289)
I read that as peeing into a universe I barely recognize. and wondered what the people of 2113 are peeing into our universe.
   10. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: February 26, 2013 at 12:23 PM (#4376292)
wondered what the people of 2113 are peeing into our universe.


Maybe we'll get juicy lemons
   11. PhillyBooster Posted: February 26, 2013 at 12:23 PM (#4376294)
Who would you send down there to mix it up with the greasers?


You can never go back to the greasers. Best you can do is pick up the pieces.
   12. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: February 26, 2013 at 01:19 PM (#4376336)
Who would you send down there to mix it up with the greasers?
Who was it who got Jeff Conaway hooked on the pain pills? Whoever that is, he did a number on at least one greaser.
   13. spike Posted: February 26, 2013 at 01:26 PM (#4376340)
Who would you send down there to mix it up with the greasers?

Wait - I thought mods were the natural enemy of greasers? If Pete Townshend lied to me through song/film, I am going to be so mad, you guys.
   14. G.W.O. Posted: February 26, 2013 at 01:40 PM (#4376347)
Primates,

Sorry to leap in, but I've a question. The wife nd I are visiting Southern California / Central Valley in August an were wondering where we could see some low-key minor league baseball in small, welcoming ballparks.

Anyone help us out with some ideas where to start looking?
   15. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: February 26, 2013 at 02:14 PM (#4376372)
Fresno and Bakersfield both have minor-league teams.
(I've never been to a minor-league game that wasn't low-key, and in a small welcoming ballpark)

There's a nifty "travel guide" on BB-Ref you might find useful, too.
   16. dr. scott Posted: February 26, 2013 at 03:21 PM (#4376429)
And the Bakersfield team is one of 2 baseball teams with female general managers. (she dates a guy I work with), and they had that really fast guy (Billy Hamilton.. dont know where he starts this year) who stole 160 bases last year.
   17. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:03 PM (#4376463)
I live in Los Angeles and go to Lancaster (northern LA County) JetHawk games a couple of times a year. I've also never been to a minor league game that wasn't low-key and welcoming, except for a game at old Comiskey in about 1988. Even AAA games seem quaint if you're more used to MLB games.
   18. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 26, 2013 at 04:45 PM (#4376501)
Billy Hamilton.. dont know where he starts this year


Probably back at Pensacola (AA). I suppose there's a chance he could be at Louisville, but I don't expect it.

The wife and I are visiting Southern California / Central Valley in August an were wondering where we could see some low-key minor league baseball in small, welcoming ballparks.


I went to San Bernardino (Inland Empire) and Lake Elsinore when I was in LA for SABR in 2011. Of the two, San Bernardino is smaller, more like the feel of an old-time ballpark; Lake Elsinore is laid out kind of like a mirror image of Fenway Park, with the tall wall in right and the nooks and crannies in left-center.

-- MWE
   19. G.W.O. Posted: February 26, 2013 at 06:03 PM (#4376578)
Thanks for the suggestions, please keep them coming!
   20. Poster Nutbag Posted: February 26, 2013 at 07:11 PM (#4376638)
#14 - I live in Fresno and would advise you to avoid it like the plague. The ballpark, surrounding area and people will almost assuredly make you regret spending the time and money. Visalia is a great place for a very low-key ballpark (and it's new-ish) with a good crowd and would be a MUCH better choice.
   21. dr. scott Posted: February 26, 2013 at 08:09 PM (#4376685)
Though not that near the central Valley. The san jose giants are a fun team... and they often win! But then again I live in SF, and its too far for me...
   22. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 26, 2013 at 09:57 PM (#4376738)
I've never been to any of the Central Valley ballparks. If I had to pick one I'd probably pick Modesto - it's an older park that has been completely renovated and from what I hear combines the old and the new very well. Visalia's park was also renovated recently, but it's really tiny (it seats around 2500; Modesto seats around 4000). Bakersfield, from what I've heard, is on the dismal side - there's a reason they've had trouble holding affiliations recently.

Fresno's park is big (for the minors) and new, as befits AAA; if you want small and welcoming one of the Class A ballparks probably fits better.

-- MWE
   23. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: February 26, 2013 at 11:17 PM (#4376768)
I also haven't been to the Central Valley, but would echo Mike's comment.

I've posted this as a news item (and am probably not the only one) but B-Pro has a very good piece by former pitcher Eric Knott on PEDs. Beat the rush, read it now.
   24. tfbg9 Posted: March 06, 2013 at 12:46 PM (#4381939)
Who would you send down there to mix it up with the greasers?


Little Mr. Boyd popped a teeny erection, excited at the excuse to type an ethic slur, and get away with it.

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