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Thursday, February 27, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 2-27-2014

Pittsburgh Press, February 27, 1914:

Folsom prison has lost its most popular convict. Eugene Lavender, burglar and star pitcher of the “Major league” baseball team of the penitentiary, got an unconditional release from the states, but when he stepped from the prison gate Sheriff Fleming, of McLennon county, Texas, was waiting with extradition papers to draft him back to the Texas courts to stand trial on a burglary charge. Lavender served four years at Folsom and was the idol of the “fans”.

He didn’t like it, but I guess things happen that way.

Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: February 27, 2014 at 08:35 AM | 56 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: February 27, 2014 at 08:39 AM (#4663363)
A shaky, makeshift infield on today's Birthday Team. The second baseman is actually an outfielder and the third baseman is actually a second baseman.

And Craig Monroe's middle name is actually Keystone.

C: Ron Hassey
1B: John Wockenfuss
2B: Chick Fullis
3B: Connie Ryan
SS: Carlos Triunfel
LF: Matt Stairs
CF: Denard Span
RF: Craig Keystone Monroe

SP: Yovani Gallardo
SP: Anibal Sanchez
SP: Rube Melton
SP: Pete Smith
SP: Willie Banks
RP: Greg Cadaret

Owner: Walter Briggs
Negro Leagues great: Hilton Smith
1 career game, 0.0 IP, 2 H, 1 BB, 2 R: Will Koenigsmark
   2. BDC Posted: February 27, 2014 at 09:04 AM (#4663376)
Yes, but adjusted for hyperinflation, Will Koenigsmark gave up 2.5 billion hits.
   3. Rants Mulliniks Posted: February 27, 2014 at 09:08 AM (#4663381)
So, did anyone see David Samson having the honour of being first tribe member voted off Survivor last night? Yes, the David Samson. And he did nothing to ingratiate himself to baseball fans.
   4. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: February 27, 2014 at 09:30 AM (#4663408)
Yes, but adjusted for hyperinflation, Will Koenigsmark gave up 2.5 billion hits.
*slow clap*

Friggin' Weimar, man. Worst team owner baseball ever saw. Until Loria.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 09:37 AM (#4663417)
So, did anyone see David Samson having the honour of being first tribe member voted off Survivor last night? Yes, the David Samson. And he did nothing to ingratiate himself to baseball fans.


I knew he'd come up short.

Best regards!
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 09:49 AM (#4663429)
TRIVIA: Seven pairs of teammates have whiffed 160 times each in the same year. All have happened since 2000 (five of them have happened since 2008). Can you name them?

Hint: Only one name appears on this list twice, but he had two different teammates join him in the 160 strikeout club.
   7. JJ1986 Posted: February 27, 2014 at 09:54 AM (#4663435)
Hint: Only one name appears on this list twice, but he had two different teammates join him in the 160 strikeout club.


I'm not sure about any of the pairs, but I know this is Mark Reynolds.

Reynolds and Justin Upton?
Reynolds and Chris Davis?
   8. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: February 27, 2014 at 09:56 AM (#4663444)
Adam Dunn and...Danny Espinoza maybe?
   9. just plain joe Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:00 AM (#4663448)
And Craig Monroe's middle name is actually Keystone.


So he totally deserves a shot at second base.
   10. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:02 AM (#4663450)
Reynolds and Chris Young?
   11. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:03 AM (#4663453)
I want Stairs at second.
   12. An Athletic in Powderhorn™ Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:04 AM (#4663455)
Granderson and Austin Jackson?

EDIT: No, I see Jackson came up the year after Granderson left. Curses.
   13. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:05 AM (#4663459)
Mark Reynolds and Adam LaRoche?
Curtis Granderson and Nick Swisher?

   14. The District Attorney Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:10 AM (#4663465)
Jackson came up the year after Granderson left.
They were traded for each other.

Ryan Howard and Jayson Werth?
   15. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:11 AM (#4663466)
Ryan Howard and Pat Burrell?
   16. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM (#4663471)
Reynolds and Chris Young?


Correct. Reynolds has also done it with another teammate, but not Justin Upton, Chris Davis, or Adam LaRoche.

None of the other guesses are right. Three of the names on the list have been mentioned however, just paired with someone else.
   17. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:27 AM (#4663484)
B. J. Upton and Carlos Pena?
   18. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:36 AM (#4663491)
Upton and Pena is correct! 2012 Rays.
   19. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:40 AM (#4663496)
I don't think Reynolds & Dunn have been teammates, but they should start a country band or a cop show.
   20. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:41 AM (#4663497)
I don't think Reynolds & Dunn have been teammates, but they should start a country band or a cop show.


#TrueDetectiveSeason2
   21. JJ1986 Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:42 AM (#4663499)
I don't think Reynolds & Dunn have been teammates, but they should start a country band or a cop show.


Dunn was traded to Arizona at the deadline one year (in 2009?), so they were teammates for two months.
   22. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:48 AM (#4663501)
Correct. Reynolds has also done it with another teammate, but not Justin Upton, Chris Davis, or Adam LaRoche.


I looked and according to BB-ref, Reynolds (211) and LaRoche (172) were on the 2010 D-Backs together.
   23. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: February 27, 2014 at 10:51 AM (#4663506)
I looked and according to BB-ref, Reynolds (211) and LaRoche (172) were on the 2010 D-Backs together.

Well, everyone on the 2010 D-Backs struck out over 160 times.
   24. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 27, 2014 at 11:01 AM (#4663514)
Hey, the 2010 D-Backs only had five players strike out more than 140 times. They only led the league in strikeouts by 154!
   25. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 27, 2014 at 11:03 AM (#4663516)
The 2010 D-Backs had two players who played over 100 games and struck out less than 100 times. Name them!

Hint: I have never heard of one of these guys, who is the son of another major-leaguer I have also never heard of.
   26. JJ1986 Posted: February 27, 2014 at 11:14 AM (#4663525)
Hint: I have never heard of one of these guys, who is the son of another major-leaguer I have also never heard of.


Rusty Ryal is a not famous son of a not famous player. I don't know if he got in 100 games ever, though.
   27. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 27, 2014 at 11:18 AM (#4663528)
He did! With a whopping 207 at-bats.
   28. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 11:33 AM (#4663538)
I looked and according to BB-ref, Reynolds (211) and LaRoche (172) were on the 2010 D-Backs together.


Ah, you're right. My bad! They're on the list, I just was blanking on LaRoche playing for Arizona.

So its:

Carlos Pena/BJ Upton
Mark Reynolds/Chris Young
Mark Reynolds/Adam LaRoche

Four more pairs. Three of them involve an infielder and an outfielder, the fourth is two infielders. One happened last year.
   29. JJ1986 Posted: February 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM (#4663549)
How about Granderson and Brandon Inge?
   30. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 11:47 AM (#4663552)
No Grandy or Inge on the list.

Adam Dunn and...Danny Espinoza maybe?


Wrong teammate, but you're close.

Ryan Howard and Jayson Werth?


Wrong teammate, but you're close.
   31. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: February 27, 2014 at 12:19 PM (#4663583)
Adam Dunn and Jayson Werth?
   32. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: February 27, 2014 at 12:25 PM (#4663594)
Adam Dunn and Adam Dunn?
   33. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: February 27, 2014 at 12:38 PM (#4663600)
Adam Dunn and Josh Willingham?
   34. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: February 27, 2014 at 12:52 PM (#4663616)
Ryan Howard and Raul Ibanez
   35. JJ1986 Posted: February 27, 2014 at 12:54 PM (#4663619)
Who was the Brewers and Cubs infielder who started the trend of striking out all the time? Jose Hernandez? How about him and Geoff Jenkins?
   36. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: February 27, 2014 at 12:55 PM (#4663622)
Adam Dunn and Alexi Ramirez
   37. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 27, 2014 at 01:00 PM (#4663627)
Who was the Brewers and Cubs infielder who started the trend of striking out all the time? Jose Hernandez? How about him and Geoff Jenkins?
Hernandez and Sexson?
   38. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 01:12 PM (#4663641)
NO ADAM DUNNS AT ALL!

Hernandez and Sexson?


Correct! They did it in 2001.
   39. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: February 27, 2014 at 01:15 PM (#4663645)


NO ADAM DUNNS AT ALL!


I guess that leaves Danny Espinosa and Jason Werth

Another guess: Jose Bautista and Adam Lind?
   40. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 01:17 PM (#4663650)
Three pairs left:

1. Combined for 83 HR that year, with one leading the league in homers at age 23.
2. You guys are so close I might just give it to you. One was a rookie, the other in his first year with the club.
3. Same last name as a player listed upthread. His teammate hit under the Mendoza Line.

   41. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 01:18 PM (#4663652)
I guess that leaves Danny Espinosa and Jason Werth


Correct!

No on Bautista/Lind.
   42. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 27, 2014 at 01:18 PM (#4663653)
NO ADAM DUNNS AT ALL!
Adam Dunn strikes out so much, he doesn't leave any for his teammates. It's like early in Michael Jordan's career. Dunn won't win a championship until he learns to trust his teammates to strike out.
   43. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 27, 2014 at 01:20 PM (#4663654)
3. Same last name as a player listed upthread. His teammate hit under the Mendoza Line.
Upton and Uggla?
   44. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: February 27, 2014 at 01:26 PM (#4663663)
Combined for 83 HR that year, with one leading the league in homers at age 23.


Juan Gonzalez and Dean Palmer

edit: Nevermind, missed the "since 2000" thing.
   45. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 01:28 PM (#4663664)
Justin Upton and Uggla are correct. Last year whiffin for Atlanta.

Juan Gone/Palmer are incorrect. This happened in 2000.
   46. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: February 27, 2014 at 01:29 PM (#4663665)
Isn't there another Reynolds' pair missing? Adam Jones maybe.

   47. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: February 27, 2014 at 01:30 PM (#4663667)
Juan Gone/Palmer are incorrect. This happened in 2000.


It wasn't a bad guess. Palmer had 156, JuanGone 143
   48. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 27, 2014 at 01:48 PM (#4663682)
Justin Upton and Uggla are correct.
B.J. had 151. If he'd been any good last year, he could have gotten the at bats to make it three Braves.
   49. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: February 27, 2014 at 03:23 PM (#4663746)
I know nothing about this, other than what I'm about to say: I'm told by a friend at the game that Zack Greinke just walked off the mound with one out in the first inning.

That doesn't sound good, if true.
   50. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: February 27, 2014 at 03:25 PM (#4663752)
Uh, yup. Confirmed by Dylan Hernandez.

Bad, bad, bad:
Zack Greinke leaves the field with trainer Stan Conte in the first inning because of an apparent injury. pic.twitter.com/vXgZZ6VfZX
linky
   51. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: February 27, 2014 at 03:38 PM (#4663759)
Calf injury. Crisis averted.
   52. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 04:08 PM (#4663776)
Soon as I saw the trivia question in this thread, I knew Jose Hernandez would be one of the answers.

Back when he was a Cub, my friends and I opined that a special rule should be passed such that whenever Jose had a 2-strike count he should just be called out, in order to save us all time. Even the worst slider thrown low and away would punch him out.
   53. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 27, 2014 at 05:20 PM (#4663820)
The last pair was Troy Glaus and Mo Vaughn in 2000 with Anaheim. Glaus led the league with 47 homers. Good night everyone!
   54. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: February 27, 2014 at 05:41 PM (#4663826)
This happened in 2000.

Troy Glaus and... someone else on the 2000 Angels? Garret Anderson maybe?

Were Howard and Burrell ever teammates for a full season?
   55. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 27, 2014 at 05:50 PM (#4663827)
I thought of Glaus, but the only other Angels I could think of were Bobby Grich and Mike Trout. Then I got distracted.
   56. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 27, 2014 at 06:14 PM (#4663842)
Mo Vaughn was famous for so many other things, his love of strikeouts was overshadowed.

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