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Friday, February 07, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 2-7-2014

Washington Herald, February 7, 1914:

Manager Joe Birmingham, Pitcher Steen, and Trainer Hitt, of the Cleveland team, [yesterday] saved the live [sic] of a woman…when her husband attempted to kill her. The three ball players board with Mrs. Leonard Keiffer near the ball park. Mrs. Keiffer is separated from her husband. The little family were at dinner. It was a merry party. Joe was telling how good the Naps were when in rushed Keiffer, a 200-pound giant, pistol in hand. Mrs. Keiffer promptly fainted, and the little Keiffers shrieked.

“So this is the man you love,” shouted Keiffer, pointing at Hitt. The big trainer immediately realized he was to be the hero of the drama. He closed with Keiffer, wrestling the pistol from the intruder and knocking him down.
...
“You tend to the lady, Joe,” said Hitt, “and, Steen, you phone for the cops; I’ll hold this guy,” and he did until nine policemen arrived.

Yeesh. Could have gotten out of hand in a hurry.

Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 09:10 AM | 37 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: bill steen, dugout, history, joe birmingham

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   1. Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 09:12 AM (#4653070)
After having Hank Aaron and Babe Ruth the last two days, today's Birthday Team is kind of a letdown. Although it does have two unsuccessful Democratic presidential candidates.

C/Manager: Pat Moran
1B: Carney Lansford
2B: Damaso Garcia
3B: Tom Daly
SS: Charlie Dougherty
LF: Charlie Jamieson
CF: Endy Chavez
RF: Al Smith

SP: Earl Whitehill
SP: Burt Hooton
SP: Juan Pizarro
SP: Scott Feldman
SP: Charlie Puleo
RP: Dan Quisenberry

PH: Benny Ayala
Supercool Delivery: Josh Collmenter
Not that one: Ted Kennedy
   2. AndrewJ Posted: February 07, 2014 at 09:35 AM (#4653075)
The Babe always thought he was born on February 7th, 1894, until the early 1930s when he went to get his birth certificate to obtain his passport. Then he discovered he was actually 364 days younger.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 10:26 AM (#4653105)
Minor league deals:

BAL - 1B Matt LaPorta
PHI - IF Brian Bixler
STL - RHP Pat Neshek

Astros DFA 1B Brett Wallace

   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 10:35 AM (#4653110)
There are seven seasons where a TRIO of hitting teammates has put together a 6 oWAR season (just offensive, not defense).

One of the trios did it in back-to-back years.

One of the trios had two of the players do it again with a different third player.

Can you name the six trios?

Hint: Only two were pre-expansion.
   5. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: February 07, 2014 at 10:39 AM (#4653112)
Ramirez, Belle, Thome?
Ramirez, Belle, Alomar?

Some combination from the mid-90s Indians.
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 10:44 AM (#4653116)
That probably would have been my first guess, but they never had a trio put up those kind of numbers, just lots of different pairs (Belle/Lofton in '94, Belle/Thome in '96, Alomar/Manny in '99, Alomar/Thome in '01)
   7. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: February 07, 2014 at 10:44 AM (#4653117)
Same state, a generation earlier.
Morgan, Foster, Bench (or Perez).

   8. Davo Dozier Posted: February 07, 2014 at 10:55 AM (#4653126)
Rolen-Edmonds-Pujols
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 10:56 AM (#4653128)
Another really good guess with the Big Red Machine, but they never had a trio. Just the following pairs:

Bench/Perez in '70
Bench/Morgan in '72
Morgan/Rose in '73
Bench/Morgan in '74
Morgan/Rose in '76
Foster/Morgan in '77

Rolen/Edmonds/Pujols in 2004 is correct.
   10. JJ1986 Posted: February 07, 2014 at 11:06 AM (#4653133)
Edgar/Griffey/A-Rod
Edgar/Ichiro/Bret Boone
   11. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 11:12 AM (#4653136)
Edgar/Griffey/ARod is correct. They did it twice, 1996 and 1997.

   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 11:13 AM (#4653138)
Another hint:

Two of the pairs played for the same franchise, five years apart. But the latter trio is comprised of three completely different players than the first!
   13. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 07, 2014 at 11:29 AM (#4653152)
2001- Home Barry Bonds, Road Barry Bonds, Rich Aurilia
   14. Sweatpants Posted: February 07, 2014 at 12:23 PM (#4653184)
Marcus Giles, Gary Sheffield, Javy Lopez?
   15. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 12:27 PM (#4653187)
Bonds/Kent did it twice, and Bonds/Aurilia did it once, but the three of them never hit 6 oWAR together.

Lopez and Sheffield hit 6 oWAR, but not with Marcus (or anyone else).

Four of the five remaining trios all played for the same franchise.
   16. JJ1986 Posted: February 07, 2014 at 12:32 PM (#4653190)
Collins, Baker and someone else?
   17. Rennie's Tenet Posted: February 07, 2014 at 12:36 PM (#4653193)
The Pirates sent Wilbur Wood to the White Sox for birthday pitcher Juan Pizarro. Wood recorded 162 wins and 57 saves for the White Sox.
   18. Davo Dozier Posted: February 07, 2014 at 12:53 PM (#4653214)
Some combination of the Philadelphia Athletics' $100,000 infield (McInnis-Collins-Barry-Baker)?
   19. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: February 07, 2014 at 12:58 PM (#4653219)
Henderson, McGwire, Canseco?

   20. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 01:19 PM (#4653239)
Collins and Baker did it five times, but never with a third.

The 90 A's had Rickey (8.3 oWAR!!!!) but Canseco (5.0) and McGwire (4.5) fell short.
   21. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 01:20 PM (#4653241)
So there are five left. The first three (chronologically) all involve a trio of HOFers.

The last two have guys not yet eligible, but out of all six players, only one is a good bet for the HOF
   22. Davo Dozier Posted: February 07, 2014 at 01:28 PM (#4653248)
The first three (chronologically) all involve a trio of HOFers.


Ruth-Gehrig-Lazzeri (or Ruth-Gehrig-Combs)

Cobb-Crawford-Heilmann

Cochrane-Foxx-Simmons
   23. Davo Dozier Posted: February 07, 2014 at 01:37 PM (#4653252)
There aren't a ton of teams that had 3 Hall of Famers at their peaks....

Ott-Terry-Travis Jackson? Ott-Terry-Freddy Lindstrom? Ott-Terry-some other guy who hit an empty .300 and made the Hall of Fame in the 1970s?

Who was the other crew--the Cardinals...Frisch-Medwick-Hafey? Frisch-Bottomley-Horsnby?
   24. BDC Posted: February 07, 2014 at 01:39 PM (#4653254)
Man, six oWAR is a lot. The Rangers, for all their slugging, have never had two guys do it in the same year, and few enough have even done it at all.
   25. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 01:43 PM (#4653257)
Ruth-Gehrig-Lazzeri (or Ruth-Gehrig-Combs)



Ding! Ding! There's the first two. Both trios did it, Ruth-Gehrig-Combs in '27, and Ruth-Gehrig-Lazzeri in '29.

Cobb and Crawford both hit 6 oWAR four times together, and Cobb and Heileman hit 6 oWAR twice together, but the three of them never overlapped 6 oWAR seasons (Cobb also hit 6 oWAR with Bobby Veach).

Foxx and Simmons did it together twice, Foxx and Cochrane did it once, but the three of them never did it together.

Ott and Terry did it in '32, but the third best hitter was Shanty Hogan (1.6)

Medwick and Mize did it in '37, but the third best hitter was Don Padgett (2.2).

The last three trios are all from the expansion era.
   26. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: February 07, 2014 at 01:45 PM (#4653259)
Ruth-Gehrig-Lazzeri


That one is correct.

Robinson, Campy, Duke?

edit: Never mind. But damned close. Jackie missed by 0.1
   27. JJ1986 Posted: February 07, 2014 at 01:55 PM (#4653268)
Williams, Jeter, Tino?

A-Rod, Posada, Jeter?
   28. Davo Dozier Posted: February 07, 2014 at 01:59 PM (#4653272)
Oh, jeez, totally missed this was just offensive WAR!
   29. Bitter Mouse Posted: February 07, 2014 at 02:11 PM (#4653280)
2001- Home Barry Bonds, Road Barry Bonds, Rich Aurilia


Yeah. Of course Road Barry was a clubhouse cancer, and refused to share playing time with Home Barry.
   30. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 02:15 PM (#4653283)
A-Rod, Posada, Jeter?


Correct! A-Rod, Posada, Jeter in 2007. The other Yankee trio you list is incorrect, but not too far off.
   31. BDC Posted: February 07, 2014 at 02:18 PM (#4653285)
The last three trios are all from the expansion era

Again on how hard it is to reach 6 oWAR, I guessed the 1973 Braves. Darrell Evans did have 7 oWAR that year. But Hank Aaron had 5 despite hitting .300 with 40 HR, and Davey Johnson had 5.5 despite hitting 43 home runs while playing second base. There was a substantial park effect that year in Atlanta, of course, but still.
   32. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: February 07, 2014 at 02:18 PM (#4653286)
The last three trios are all from the expansion era.


And the first of those is 3 HOFers...

Banks, Santo, Williams
Aaron, Mathews, Torre,
Mays, McCovey, Cepeda
   33. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 02:27 PM (#4653293)
Mays-McCovey-Cepeda is correct. They accomplished the feat in 1963.

The last trio was almost guessed by JJ. Its Williams-Giambi-Soriano in 2002 with the Yanks (three completely different players than in 2007).
   34. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 07, 2014 at 04:10 PM (#4653366)
K-Rod to the Brewers 1/$3.25 mill

A's extend Coco Crisp to a 2 year extension.
   35. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: February 07, 2014 at 05:09 PM (#4653391)
A's extend Coco Crisp to a 2 year extension.

He will get $11M in 2015 and 2016, with a $13M vesting option for 2017 contingent on plate appearances.

An oddly aggressive move for Oakland, but I kinda like it.
   36. Swedish Chef Posted: February 07, 2014 at 06:08 PM (#4653414)
   37. God Posted: February 07, 2014 at 06:46 PM (#4653435)
Aw, too bad. That was gonna be fun.

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