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Friday, March 14, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 3-14-2014

Pittsburgh Gazette Times, March 14, 1914:

Joe Oeschger, pitcher for St. Mary’s College team of [Oakland], signed a three-year contract [yesterday] to play with the Philadelphia Nationals and will report to that club next week. He is a right hander who has been successful in college baseball for two years.

Coincidentally, Oeschger’s most famous appearance in the big leagues was successful and lasted about two years.

Actually, it lasted 3:50, which is mindblowingly short for the longest game in MLB history.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 14, 2014 at 09:08 AM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dugout, history, joe oeschger

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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 14, 2014 at 09:14 AM (#4671339)
A couple of terrific players on today's Birthday Team, and then a whole lot of not much.

C: Butch Wynegar
1B: Billy O'Brien
2B/Manager: Marty McManus
3B: Brent Gates
SS: Candy Nelson
LF: Jud Daley
CF: Kirby Puckett
RF: Jack Rothrock

SP: Kevin Brown
SP: Billy Rhines
SP: Arnold Carter
SP: Bill Kennedy
SP: Mike Strahler
RP: Bobby Jenks

Awful name for a pitcher: Bruce Hitt
Fun Name: Dad Meek
   2. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: March 14, 2014 at 10:03 AM (#4671391)
The day after that 26-inning game in Boston, Brooklyn had a home game (a loss) against the Phillies that lasted 13 innings. The day after that, they were back in Boston for a 19-inning loss. Then they had an off day so they could travel back to New York.

The 13-inning game was on a Sunday. The Robins/Dodgers had six one-game-only Sunday homestands. The Giants didn't have any.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 14, 2014 at 10:24 AM (#4671424)
Bovada MVP odds:

AL MVP
Trout 5/1
Cabrera 6/1
Pujols 12/1
Ellsbury 12/1
Donaldson 12/1
Longoria 14/1
Cano 14/1
Beltre 16/1
Davis 16/1
Pedroia 16/1
Hosmer 18/1
Jones 20/1
Mauer 20/1
Bautista 20/1
Reyes 20/1
Fielder 20/1

Jeter 100/1

NL MVP
McCutchen 6/1
Votto 7/1
Goldschmidt 9/1
Harper 12/1
Posey 12/1
Freeman 14/1
Braun 14/1
Puig 14/1
CarGonzalez 16/1
Kemp 16/1
Molina 16/1
Wright 18/1
Tulo 18/1
Kershaw 20/1

AL Cy Young
Darvish 7/1
Price 9/1
Verlander 10/1
Scherzer 10/1
Sale 12/1
Moore 12/1

Soria 66/1
Lackey 66/1

NL Cy Young
Kershaw 13/2
Wainwright 8/1
Strasburgh 8/1
JFernandez 10/1
C Lee 15/1
Bumgarner 15/1
Greinke 15/1

de la Rosa 50/1
R Soriano 50/1
Niese 66/1
   4. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 14, 2014 at 10:47 AM (#4671462)
Actually, it lasted 3:50, which is mindblowingly short for the longest game in MLB history.


Indeed. That'll get you to about the 6th inning of a Yankees-Red Sox game in May.
   5. Bote Man Posted: March 14, 2014 at 10:55 AM (#4671469)
Joe Oeschger...signed a three-year contract [yesterday] to play with the Philadelphia Nationals

Man! Those Nationals sure got around back then!
   6. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: March 14, 2014 at 11:30 AM (#4671505)
The GM of the current Philadelphia Nationals wonders why Joe Oeschger hasn't accepted his spring training invite.
   7. Flack42 Posted: March 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM (#4671594)
Any idea why the 26 inning game didn't continue until there was a winner?

And one pitcher faced 90 hitters, the other faced 96. That is a full day at the office.
   8. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 14, 2014 at 01:27 PM (#4671641)
   9. Karl from NY Posted: March 14, 2014 at 02:40 PM (#4671745)
The Robins/Dodgers had six one-game-only Sunday homestands.

This had a lot to do with blue laws by the neighbors, right? IIRC, the Philly and Boston teams all couldn't play at home on Sundays until sometime in the 1930s.

Wiki says true for Philly until 1933, but doesn't mention Boston. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_baseball_games
   10. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: March 14, 2014 at 02:45 PM (#4671750)
This had a lot to do with blue laws by the neighbors, right?
That's what I thought, so I checked on the Giants too. I don't know if Brooklyn and Manhattan had different laws.

Last night I had a dream about going to a used book sale and finding copies of 250-page biographies of each member of the 1983 White Sox. I bought all of them except Tim Hulett's because I ran out of money. I guess that's unrelated to blue laws and 1920 baseball in some ways.
   11. Mike Emeigh Posted: March 14, 2014 at 03:02 PM (#4671765)
This had a lot to do with blue laws by the neighbors, right? IIRC, the Philly and Boston teams all couldn't play at home on Sundays until sometime in the 1930s.


New York lifted its blue laws in 1919, although Sunday games couldn't start until 2 PM and no inning could start after 6 PM. Boston lifted its blue laws in 1929, Philadelphia (and Pittsburgh) in 1934. Until the Pennsylvania blue laws were lifted, the Pirates played a lot of Sunday games in Cincinnati and Chicago in the middle of a scheduled home series against those teams.

-- MWE
   12. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 14, 2014 at 04:09 PM (#4671826)
Any idea why the 26 inning game didn't continue until there was a winner?

And one pitcher faced 90 hitters, the other faced 96. That is a full day at the office.

They defied the conventional sabermetric wisdow of the time, which was that you should never let your starter go through the batting order for a tenth time.
   13. Tom Nawrocki Posted: March 14, 2014 at 04:26 PM (#4671844)
Last night I had a dream about going to a used book sale and finding copies of 250-page biographies of each member of the 1983 White Sox. I bought all of them except Tim Hulett's because I ran out of money.


If you paid real American money for a 250-page biography of Jerry Dybzinski, even in a dream, you're a bigger fan than I.
   14. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: March 14, 2014 at 04:34 PM (#4671856)
Last night I had a dream about going to a used book sale and finding copies of 250-page biographies of each member of the 1983 White Sox. I bought all of them except Tim Hulett's because I ran out of money.

How was the Rusty Kuntz book?

Someone at the central Carnegie Library in Pittsburgh must be getting kickbacks from McFarland Publishing. I was going through the stacks and just saw biography after biography, with a Johnny Kling book right next to the controversially titled Hello Everybody, I'm George Kell. I know those guys were great players and George Kell was a beloved announcer, albeit beloved only in Detroit, but those books were untouched by human library patron hand.
   15. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: March 14, 2014 at 05:12 PM (#4671876)
Of course I got Rusty and the Dybber. The final choice was between the Harold Baines book and the Hulett one, since I assumed I already knew everything about Baines's life through 1983. I passed on Hulett because the subtitle ("Tim Hullett? Was he even on that team?") seemed disrespectful and misspelled.
   16. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili (TeddyF.Ballgame) Posted: March 14, 2014 at 09:11 PM (#4671955)
Bovada MVP odds:

AL MVP
Trout 5/1
Cabrera 6/1
Pujols 12/1
Ellsbury 12/1
Donaldson 12/1
Longoria 14/1
Cano 14/1
Beltre 16/1
Davis 16/1
Pedroia 16/1
Hosmer 18/1
Jones 20/1
Mauer 20/1
Bautista 20/1
Reyes 20/1
Fielder 20/1

Jeter 100/1

NL MVP
McCutchen 6/1
Votto 7/1
Goldschmidt 9/1
Harper 12/1
Posey 12/1
Freeman 14/1
Braun 14/1
Puig 14/1
CarGonzalez 16/1
Kemp 16/1
Molina 16/1
Wright 18/1
Tulo 18/1
Kershaw 20/1


Seems bullish on Harper.
   17. AndrewJ Posted: March 14, 2014 at 09:41 PM (#4671968)
Joe Oeschger was a member of the Phillies when they won the 1915 National League pennant. He lived long enough to see them finally a World Series.
   18. Chris Fluit Posted: March 15, 2014 at 08:59 AM (#4672028)
I'm surprised the CY odds didn't include Tanaka.
   19. esseff Posted: March 15, 2014 at 11:53 AM (#4672071)
Tanaka is 15-1.

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