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Friday, March 15, 2019

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 3-15-2019

The Fairmont West Virginian weighs in on the future of air travel in baseball, March 15, 1919:

Traveling by planes instead of railroad trains will have its advantages. There would be no necessity of open dates in the schedules as the long jumps could be made in hours less time than it takes to make them by train. World series could be played on alternate days even if the participating teams were as far apart as New York and Chicago. Circuits could be widened to take in greater territory than at present.

Well done, 1919 people, though players do still occasionally need a day off. There’s a limit to what greenies can accomplish.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 15, 2019 at 10:12 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 15, 2019 at 10:13 AM (#5822983)
The nickname game of today's Birthday Team is on point. The right side of the infield features The Freshest Man on Earth and The Greek God of Walks.

Also of note: Today is Richie Shaffer's 28th birthday. His career from September 2016-February 2017: Played for Durham, called up to Tampa Bay, traded to Seattle, DFA, Phillies, DFA, Reds, waivers, Indians, DFA, outrighted to Columbus. He had a catastrophic year (.178/.252/.374) in the minors last season and I suspect his career may be in some jeopardy. He doesn't seem to be in camp with anyone this spring. I guess at least it's good that he got paid to travel a whole lot?

C: Robert Fick (2.2 WAR)
1B: Kevin Youkilis (32.6 WAR)
2B/Manager: Arlie Latham (30.6 WAR)
3B: Doc Casey (12.3 WAR)
SS: Nick Ahmed (5.7 WAR)
LF: Jon Jay (14.0 WAR)
CF: Bobby Bonds (57.9 WAR)
RF: Harold Baines (38.7 WAR)

SP: Michael Fulmer (9.5 WAR)
SP: Lou Fette (8.4 WAR)
SP: Bill Wise (2.7 WAR)
SP: Sailor Stroud (1.8 WAR)
SP: Rosy Ryan (1.3 WAR)
RP: Jim Kern (13.9 WAR)
RP: Bob Locker (10.2 WAR)
RP: Juan Carlos Oviedo (3.7 WAR)

Backup 3B: Mike Pagliarulo (10.6 WAR)
Given name is Kimothy: Kim Batiste (-4.4 WAR)
Not that one: Steven Jackson
Not the East German secret police: Max Stassi
NPB Hall of Fame OF/SP/Manager, a proto-Ohtani: Junzo Sekine
Postseason hero: Mickey Hatcher
   2. Tom Nawrocki Posted: March 15, 2019 at 01:20 PM (#5823040)
The nickname game of today's Birthday Team is on point. The right side of the infield features The Freshest Man on Earth and The Greek God of Walks.


Plus Jim "the Emu" Kern. And Sailor Stroud, whom I hadn't heard of before today.
   3. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 15, 2019 at 02:02 PM (#5823046)
Also of note: Today is Richie Shaffer's 28th birthday. His career from September 2016-February 2017: Played for Durham, called up to Tampa Bay, traded to Seattle, DFA, Phillies, DFA, Reds, waivers, Indians, DFA, outrighted to Columbus.
Oliver Drake scoffs.
   4. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 15, 2019 at 02:03 PM (#5823048)
Not the East German secret police: Max Stassi
Or so the Germans would have us believe.
   5. TDF, trained monkey Posted: March 15, 2019 at 02:19 PM (#5823050)
CF: Bobby Bonds (57.9 WAR)
RF: Harold Baines (38.7 WAR)
Per 162 games:

Bonds: .268/.353/.471 (129 OPS+), 111 R, 30 HR, 91 RBI, 41 SB, 4 GG.
HOFer Baines:.289/.356/.465 (121 OPS+), 75 R, 22 HR, 93 RBI, 2 SB, average fielder for a DH.

I know it's not Baines' fault, but damn is he underqualified for the HOF.
   6. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 15, 2019 at 02:24 PM (#5823052)
It may be overstating Bonds' defense somewhat to say that he won 4 Gold Gloves for every 162 games.
   7. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: March 15, 2019 at 02:36 PM (#5823054)
In 1999, Rafael Palmeiro won almost 6 Gold Gloves for every 162 games he played in the field.
   8. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: March 15, 2019 at 03:27 PM (#5823066)
Luis Severino out until May, per MLBTR.

   9. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: March 15, 2019 at 10:21 PM (#5823100)
SP: Michael Fulmer (9.5 WAR)


I hope this ERA+ pattern does not continue for his sake:
2016: 139
2017: 117
2018: 93
2019: 67?

It doesn't look great -- The Tigers announced, in a two-sentence statement Thursday, that Fulmer was taking a step back to work on refining his mechanics and no timetable was set for his return to game action. He was pulled from his scheduled start Friday and would have had only two starts left before the season opens.

It's a ##### to be a pitcher.
   10. RMc accompanies the Griffmen to Augusta Posted: March 16, 2019 at 10:04 AM (#5823123)
I know it's not Baines' fault, but damn is he underqualified for the HOF.


Here are the guys that played at least half their career from 1980-2001 and are within 2 WAR either way of Harold Baines: Luis Gonzalez, Jack Clark, Albert Belle, Jesse Barfield, David Justice, Paul O'Neill, Chet Lemon, Kirk Gibson, Kent Hrbek, Lonnie Smith, Tim Wallach, Jay Bell, Willie Wilson, Chili Davis, Ray Lankford and Gary Sheffield.

All good players. None of them are (or should be) HOFers.
   11. JJ1986 Posted: March 16, 2019 at 10:44 AM (#5823128)
Here are the guys that played at least half their career from 1980-2001 and are within 2 WAR either way of Harold Baines: Luis Gonzalez, Jack Clark, Albert Belle, Jesse Barfield, David Justice, Paul O'Neill, Chet Lemon, Kirk Gibson, Kent Hrbek, Lonnie Smith, Tim Wallach, Jay Bell, Willie Wilson, Chili Davis, Ray Lankford and Gary Sheffield.
I don't think WAR is rating Gary Sheffield (or Albert Belle) correctly.
   12. Sweatpants Posted: March 16, 2019 at 11:02 AM (#5823133)
I think that's just Sheffield's 1980-2001 WAR. I know that BR hates his defense, but it can't be anywhere near enough to drag his total WAR down to Baines's level.

Sheffield belongs in the Hall, in my opinion.
   13. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: March 16, 2019 at 11:05 AM (#5823135)
I don't think WAR is rating Gary Sheffield (or Albert Belle) correctly.


The problem isn't with WAR, it's with the poster. Baines has 38 WAR, Sheffield has 60. Lemon has 55. Gonzo has 52. Clark has 53. Wilson has 46. Unless I missed one, the rest are within 2 WAR of Baines, including Belle. But Belle accumulated his in a little over half the playing time. Belle has 17 WAA. Baines 2.

edit: OK. #12 is correct. Not the best phraseology in #10, and a silly comparison IMO. I get what he was trying to do though. Comparing (in some cases), partial careers of contemporary Non-HOFers to Baines entire career.
   14. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: March 16, 2019 at 11:17 AM (#5823137)
Here's some more players who spent at least half their career 1980-2001, and who's full career WAR is within 2 of Baines:

Tim Salmon
Eric Davis
Lance Parrish
Carney Lansford
Moises Alou
Reggie Sanders
Dave Parker
Jim Sundberg
Bill Madlock
   15. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 16, 2019 at 02:53 PM (#5823172)
I don't think WAR is rating Gary Sheffield (or Albert Belle) correctly.
What about Chris Truby?
   16. RMc accompanies the Griffmen to Augusta Posted: March 16, 2019 at 07:01 PM (#5823216)
Re 12, 13: You're right; I should've been more clear.

Point is: 38 WAR ain't no Hall of Famer.

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