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Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 3-18-2014

New York Evening World, March 18, 1914:

That he would not rejoin the New York Giants if President Hempstead gave him the Polo Grounds for playing, was the statement made yesterday by Arthur Shafer, the man John McGraw declares is the best utility player who ever donned a uniform.

“I do not like baseball,” said Shafer. “I do not like the life and I do not like the Eastern climate.

“Big league baseball once attracted me, but now its glamour is all gone. I have satisfied every ambition in a baseball way; now I want to forget that I was ever in it.

“It is an episode in my life that I am trying hard to forget. I have plenty of money and I’m not dependent on the $7,500 a year from the Giants.”

Plus there’s all those perfumed notes to deal with.

True to his word, Shafer never played another game in professional baseball. At age 24, coming off a good season as an everyday player for a pennant winner, Tillie Shafer packed up his stuff and went home.

The Giants didn’t release his rights for another 12 years, just in case they were able to get him to come back, but he was done.

Willie Horton Hears The Who (Dan Lee) Posted: March 18, 2014 at 08:09 AM | 25 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Willie Horton Hears The Who (Dan Lee) Posted: March 18, 2014 at 08:11 AM (#4673189)
Today's Birthday Team doesn't have a lot of talent, but it's got a Corky, an Elbie, a Geronimo, and a Tomokazu. So that's something.

C: Corky Miller
1B: Elbie Fletcher
2B: Fred Hatfield
3B: Russ Wrightstone
SS: Eddie Lake
LF: Scott Podsednik
CF: Dwayne Murphy
RF: Geronimo Berroa

SP: Al Benton
SP: Pat Jarvis
SP: Tomo Ohka
SP/Manager: Jimmy Callahan
SP: Johnny Cooney
RP: Chad Cordero
RP: Fernando Rodney
   2. Born1951 Posted: March 18, 2014 at 10:00 AM (#4673236)
The very useful win probability calculator in The Hardball Times is gone. I didn't see any way to e-mail them, and couldn't find another such calculator online. Any links or information would be appreciated. Here is the old link:

http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/other/wpa_inquirer.php
   3. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 18, 2014 at 11:24 AM (#4673302)
I recognized Al Benton's name as the answer to a somewhat famous baseball trivia question--he was the only pitcher to face both Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle.
   4. Steve N Posted: March 18, 2014 at 11:32 AM (#4673314)
Corky Miller is still around. In a camp a week or so ago. To me he is remarkable because his only real offensive skill is getting hit by pitch.
   5. Willie Horton Hears The Who (Dan Lee) Posted: March 18, 2014 at 11:39 AM (#4673320)
I love Corky Miller.

He's a terrible, awful, no good, very bad MLB player, but anyone who can hit .092/.181/.148 in 161 PA over five seasons in his late 20s/early 30s and still get paid to play baseball six years later...well, that's my hero.
   6. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: March 18, 2014 at 12:30 PM (#4673350)
Corky Miller has hit exactly .200 two of the last three years in Louisville. He could be the AAA Bob Uecker.
   7. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: March 18, 2014 at 12:31 PM (#4673352)
I suppose I had heard of Al Benton before but didn't know anything about him. He was a pretty good pitcher, but I can't find any information on why he never became a full-time, 35 games a year starter.
   8. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 18, 2014 at 01:13 PM (#4673391)
I love Geronimo Berroa's 1996 line: .290/.344/.532, 36 homers, 32 doubles, 101 runs and 106 RBIs--good for an OPS+ of just 117 (same as Juan Uribe and Chase Headley put up this year).
   9. Der-K is at full whelm. Posted: March 18, 2014 at 01:33 PM (#4673413)
i remember tabbing corky in the late rounds of a mock draft when he was a college catcher (nevada) and absolute on-base machine. so - i always root for that guy.

very different player, but geronimo berroa was one of my favorite braves (though he never did much for us). professional hitter.
   10. Kiko Sakata Posted: March 18, 2014 at 02:40 PM (#4673448)
an Elbie


I've been deducing play-by-play data from box scores and newspaper accounts for Retrosheet lately (which is just ridiculously fun - it perfectly lines up with my nerddom) and Elbie Fletcher (whom I'd never heard of two months ago) has come up several times - a platoon first baseman for the 1949 Boston Braves. Speaking of platoon and the Boston Braves, Billy Southworth was a platooning madman. In this game, for example, he swapped out his entire outfield and his first baseman over two innings when the Pirates pulled their lefty starter for a right-handed reliever.
   11. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 18, 2014 at 03:04 PM (#4673479)
Elbie Fletcher:

* One of the very few players to lead the league in OBP three seasons in a row.

* #8 on the list of most home runs hit by a player born in Massachusetts for a team in Massachusetts. List:

1. Tony Conigliaro, 162
2. Rich Gedman, 83
3. John Morrill, 41
4. Billy Conigliaro, 33
5. Tommy McCarthy, 24
5. Mark Bellhorn, 24
7. Rabbit Maranville, 23
8. Elbie Fletcher, 19
8. Tommy Tucker, 19
8. Jimmy Bannon, 19
   12. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 18, 2014 at 03:30 PM (#4673506)
Eddie Lake had 546 walks and 599 hits in his career--6th highest Walk-to-Hit ratio of any player in history (minimum 1000 PAs). That list:

1. Mickey Lolich (105 walks, 97 hits)
2. Red Faber (169 walks, 170 hits)
3. Wes Westrum (489 walks, 503 hits)
4. Max Bishop (1156 walks, 1216 hits)
5. Gene Tenace (1060 walks, 984 hits)
6. Eddie Lake (546 walks, 599 hits)
7. Lounge Favorite Ken Phelps (390 walks, 443 hits)
8. Barry Bonds (2558 walks, 2925 hits)
9. Jack Cust (510 walks, 444 hits)
10. Eddie Yost (1614 walks, 1863 hits)
   13. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 18, 2014 at 04:31 PM (#4673558)
Oakland so far in the 1st inning against the White Sox:

1. Crisp doubled
2. Punto singled
3. Lowrie homered
4. Norris walked
5. Callaspo walked
6. Taylor doubled
7. Barton singled
8. Elmore singled
9. Fuld tripled
1. Crisp singled
   14. Kiko Sakata Posted: March 18, 2014 at 04:45 PM (#4673564)
Oakland so far in the 1st inning against the White Sox:


I'm guessing the White Sox pitcher isn't making the big-league club out of spring training?
   15. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 18, 2014 at 04:49 PM (#4673565)
14--No such luck! It's projected #2 starter Jose Quintana.
   16. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: March 18, 2014 at 04:56 PM (#4673568)
1. Mickey Lolich (105 walks, 97 hits)

This makes him the answer to one of my favorite impossible trivia questions.
   17. Kiko Sakata Posted: March 18, 2014 at 05:13 PM (#4673578)
14--No such luck! It's projected #2 starter Jose Quintana.


That is a sad-looking team. Maybe Quintana just got a months' worth of hits out of his system.
   18. vortex of dissipation Posted: March 18, 2014 at 05:14 PM (#4673580)
1. Mickey Lolich (105 walks, 97 hits)

This makes him the answer to one of my favorite impossible trivia questions.


Is Lolich the only player to hit his only career home run in post-season play?
   19. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 18, 2014 at 05:19 PM (#4673585)
#16--There are three players who are two separate teams' all-time leader in batting average (minimum 100 plate appearances, only using the 30 active franchises.)

One is Shoeless Joe Jackson (.375 is best among all Indians, .340 leads all White Sox.)
Another is Rogers Hornsby (.387 is the highest of any Brave, .361 is the #1 on the Giants' leaderboard)

The last? David ############# Segui, that's who! He's Toronto's all-time leader in batting average (.316), as well as Texas's (at .336).
   20. Kiko Sakata Posted: March 18, 2014 at 05:21 PM (#4673587)
Is Lolich the only player to hit his only career home run in post-season play?


It's not true for his career, but Birthday Team LF Scott Podsednik hit no regular-season home runs in 2005, then hit one each in the ALDS and World Series that year (the 0 regular-season HRs was actually the oddity for Pods that year - it was the only 0-homer season of his career other than his 6-PA 2001).
   21. An Athletic in Powderhorn™ Posted: March 18, 2014 at 06:37 PM (#4673618)
Is Lolich the only player to hit his only career home run in post-season play?
Nope. Don Gullett homered in Game 1 of the 1975 NLCS but never in any other Major League game. He also singled in another run and pitched a complete game to kick off what would be a sweep of the Pirates. A pretty good day.

(There may be other such pitchers, Gullett is just the first one I've found.)
   22. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: March 18, 2014 at 06:45 PM (#4673623)
How is gene Tenace, the only other guy with more walks than hits on that list, 5th?
   23. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 18, 2014 at 06:48 PM (#4673625)
Oh, dammnit, I reversed the order of those columns. Tenace had 1060 hits and 984 walks.
   24. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: March 18, 2014 at 06:50 PM (#4673626)
I figured. I could have looked it up, but I preferred to raise a stink.
   25. vortex of dissipation Posted: March 18, 2014 at 06:54 PM (#4673630)
Nope. Don Gullett homered in Game 1 of the 1975 NLCS but never in any other Major League game. He also singled in another run and pitched a complete game to kick off what would be a sweep of the Pirates. A pretty good day.

(There may be other such pitchers, Gullett is just the first one I've found.)


Thanks. I'm a Reds fan, who was around at that time, so I should have remembered that!

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