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Monday, March 19, 2018

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 3-19-2018

Toledo News-Bee, March 19, 1918:

Pitcher George Foster, star of the Red Sox hurling staff in the 1916 world’s series, announced today that he had quit the game. He will devote his future to raising hogs. The contract Boston offered Foster this season specified a cut of $2000 in salary. This is said to have prompted Foster to quit. Foster is building one of the biggest hog ranches in [Oklahoma].

I can see why he’d have been upset. Foster was still in his 20s and a good pitcher, had a career ERA+ of 116 in five seasons and would have been a prime candidate for MVP of the 1915 World Series if there had been such an award. (2-0, 2.00, 2 CG, 18 IP, 12 H, 13 K, 2 BB, and went 4-for-8 with a double as a hitter). And they offered him a multi-thousand dollar pay cut. Anyway, Foster did indeed walk away and didn’t play professional baseball again until 1922, when he resurfaced as a slugging second baseman in the Western Association. Rube spent 1923-1925 as a ho-hum pitcher in the PCL, finishing his career 9-15 with a 4.95 ERA for the ‘25 Oakland Oaks.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 19, 2018 at 09:50 AM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 19, 2018 at 09:56 AM (#5639678)
A good outfield on today's Birthday Team today.

The ace pitcher is excellent too - I knew Clayton Kershaw is an amazing pitcher, but it's staggering to me that he racked up more than 60 career WAR before his 30th birthday. In his 20s, Kershaw was worth more wins than these pitchers over their entire careers: Whitey Ford, Dave Stieb, Urban Shocker, Dazzy Vance, Orel Hershiser, Jim Bunning, Stan Coveleski, and Rube Waddell. That's...pretty good.

C: David Ross (10.21 WAR)
1B: Tim Corcoran (0.98 WAR)
2B: Matt Downs (0.53 WAR)
3B: Clyde Engle (8.8 WAR)
SS: Bill Wambsganss (3.74 WAR)
LF: Gee Walker (17.68 WAR)
CF: Richie Ashburn (63.88 WAR)
RF: Ivan Calderon (11.93 WAR)

SP: Clayton Kershaw (60.6 WAR)
SP: Mike Norris (8.22 WAR)
SP: Tex Covington (1.48 WAR)
SP: Rocky Coppinger (1.23 WAR)
SP: Roy Evans (1 WAR)
RP: Rube Schauer (-2.47 WAR)

Backup C: Jason LaRue (8.79 WAR)
Fun names: Skyrocket Smith, Red Torkelson
General Manager: Tim Purpura
Man of mystery: Billy Maharg
SABR Founder: Bob Davids
   2. EddieA Posted: March 19, 2018 at 10:09 AM (#5639683)
Wambsganss' unique play:
world series unassisted triple play
   3. esseff Posted: March 19, 2018 at 11:54 AM (#5639746)
Wambsganss' unique play:
world series unassisted triple play


In a game that also included the first World Series grand slam and the first World Series homer by a pitcher.
   4. Walt Davis Posted: March 19, 2018 at 08:13 PM (#5640008)
LaRue has 1 career start and 8 appearances at 1B, can't we stick him there? :-)

Kershaw ranks 13th all-time in pitchers bWAR through age 30 with still a year to go. A good season will put him in a bunch with Seaver (#10), Clemens, Pedro and (ahem) Blyleven) ... could possibly catch Mickey Welch in 9th but he'd need to put up 10 WAR to get to Rusie and Galvin above that.

It's more impressive if we look by WAA which knocks down some of those 19th c guys substantially. He's 9th all-time in WAA through age 30 with a solid shot at passing Seaver and Clemens (2 WAA ahead) and a chance at Pedro and Clarkson (a bit more than 4 ahead) for 5th place. An 8 WAR season (his career high) might just push him past Cy Young! If he can pitch every Dodger inning this year and pitch them well, he might catch Walter Johnson (75 WAA!! by age 30!)
   5. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 19, 2018 at 09:09 PM (#5640021)
MLB working to finalize arrangements for a two-game Yankees - Red Sox series in London for June 2019.
   6. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: March 20, 2018 at 08:10 AM (#5640095)
MLB working to finalize arrangements for a two-game Yankees - Red Sox series in London for June 2019.


Can we leave them in London?
   7. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 20, 2018 at 08:14 AM (#5640096)
Given that the typical Red Sox-Yankees game lasts about as long as a 50-over One Day International, this may go over extremely well with the Brits.
   8. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: March 20, 2018 at 05:23 PM (#5640574)
MLB working to finalize arrangements for a two-game Yankees - Red Sox series in London for June 2019.


The home team fans should be able to catch the last 3 innings in DST prime time.

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