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Wednesday, March 20, 2019

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 3-20-2019

Pittsburgh Press, March 20, 1919:

Cy Williams, once one of the popular outfielders on the Cub team, has decided to retire from baseball. He owns a farm in Northern Wisconsin, and has learned that tilling the soil is more profitable than traveling around the National league circuit with the Phillies.
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“I am sure Williams will not play ball with the Phillies this year,” said Mike Prendergast, Phillie twirler, who is responsible for the report that Cy has retired from the national pastime…“He had a wonderful potato crop last fall that convinced him he could do better on the farm than by playing ball.”

As Dave Bresnahan showed us, there’s no need to choose between baseball and potatoes.

Also in the Pittsburgh Press 100 years ago, Edward E. Burt, of Turtle Creek, would like to join a strong semi-professional baseball club. He can be addressed in care of the sporting editor of the Press.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 20, 2019 at 11:02 AM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 20, 2019 at 11:03 AM (#5823971)
A shaky infield on today's Birthday Team: Mike Griffin is an outfielder who tried and failed to play shortstop a couple dozen times, Chris Hoiles is a catcher playing out of position at first, and Manny Alexander is Manny Alexander.

C: Walter Schmidt (3.5 WAR)
1B: Chris Hoiles (23.5 WAR)
2B: Manny Alexander (-2.4 WAR)
3B: Johnny Butler (0.4 WAR)
SS: Mike Griffin (40.8 WAR)
LF: Mike Young (6.4 WAR)
CF: Stan Spence (22.3 WAR)
RF: George Altman (13.0 WAR)

SP: Joe McGinnity (57.6 WAR)
SP: Vern Kennedy (12.4 WAR)
SP: Rick Langford (10.8 WAR)
SP: Joe Boehling (10.1 WAR)
SP: Steve McCatty (9.4 WAR)
RP: Clyde Shoun (8.5 WAR)

Fun names: Mellie Wolfgang, Hosea Siner
Manager: Pat Corrales
Not played by Ray Walston: Brad Hand (5.0 WAR)
NPB Hall of Fame 1B-OF: Minoru Yamashita
NPB Hall of Fame administrator: Takizo Matsumoto
Three Tommy John surgeries, made it back to The Show: Jonny Venters (4.9 WAR)
   2. salvomania Posted: March 20, 2019 at 11:18 AM (#5823982)
Did you guys know there was a Major League baseball game played today?
   3. Man o' Schwar Posted: March 20, 2019 at 11:49 AM (#5823989)
I woke up early to go to work, and there was baseball on! It was so exciting, I ended up being late for work.

My big takeaway from the game - who the hell is Lou Trivino, and why is this the first I'm hearing about him? His stuff was amazing.

I would not enjoy playing Lou Trivino's Batting Challenge.

   4. Man o' Schwar Posted: March 20, 2019 at 11:52 AM (#5823991)
Manny Alexander is Manny Alexander

Which team gave Manny Alexander the most chances in a season? That's right, the Cubs. When it came to hopelessly useless middle infielders, we just couldn't get enough in the 1990s and 2000s.
   5. EddieA Posted: March 20, 2019 at 01:48 PM (#5824043)
McGinnity is a guy I missed when taking a seasonal WAR leaders quiz. He led twice.
   6. Meatwad Posted: March 20, 2019 at 03:02 PM (#5824075)
Eloy Jiminez just got a 6 year deal for 42.5 mil. never played in mlb and already optioned to triple A. also has 2 option years that get it to 75 mil total.
   7. Kiko Sakata Posted: March 20, 2019 at 03:48 PM (#5824088)
Fun fact about one of the birthday guys. Rick Langford led the major leagues in complete games in 1980 and 1981 with 28 and 18, respectively - 46 total complete games in two seasons (the second of which was shortened by 50 games because of a strike). In 2018, there were 42 complete games thrown in all of major-league baseball. While I grant that 46 complete games in 57 starts across two seasons is excessive (Langford appeared in only 50 games after his age-30 season), I do miss complete games.
   8. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 20, 2019 at 04:07 PM (#5824096)
So, Gio Gonzalez' contract is pretty interesting. If he make the MLB roster he get $3M, plus $300K per start.

If he stays healthy and in the rotation he stands to make $12M. This is a pretty big step towards a performance based contract.
   9. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 20, 2019 at 04:10 PM (#5824097)
In 2018, there were 42 complete games thrown in all of major-league baseball. While I grant that 46 complete games in 57 starts across two seasons is excessive

Both leagues had a 4-way tie for most CG in 2018 with 2. Who was the last pitcher to have double-digits in CG? (It actually wasn't that long ago)
   10. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 20, 2019 at 04:21 PM (#5824100)
Both leagues had a 4-way tie for most CG in 2018 with 2. Who was the last pitcher to have double-digits in CG? (It actually wasn't that long ago)

Sabathia?
   11. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 20, 2019 at 04:35 PM (#5824102)
nope--it was in 2011 in the AL (I never would have gotten it w/out looking it up)
   12. Bote Man Posted: March 20, 2019 at 04:57 PM (#5824112)
If he stays healthy and in the rotation

That's the Gio curse: there's no escaping a Gio Gonzalez start because he never gets injured.

But Yankees fans will be praying for an injury after watching him trudge up the mound after a 9-pitch walk and a home run, stare up into the sky, and begin a conversation with himself/God about the meaning of life while he pounds his chest as punishment for his sins. Better get used to it.
   13. Itchy Row Posted: March 20, 2019 at 05:28 PM (#5824124)
I was going to guess R.A. Dickey, but his high was 5. Every year of the 1800's and 1900's (including 1981, 1994, and 1995) somebody had double-digits in complete games. That stopped in 2000. Sabathia (with ten in 2008) and the 2011 guy are the only two who have had 10+ since 1999.
   14. Chris Fluit Posted: March 20, 2019 at 05:32 PM (#5824127)
I would've said Halladay except he was in the NL by then. AJ Burnett?
   15. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 20, 2019 at 05:32 PM (#5824128)
it was in 2011 in the AL (I never would have gotten it w/out looking it up)
Buehrle?
   16. Man o' Schwar Posted: March 20, 2019 at 05:36 PM (#5824131)
I remember this - it was James Shields.

That's a weird thing to remember.
   17. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 20, 2019 at 05:49 PM (#5824135)
#16 has it--he had 11 in 2011. In the NL, it was Randy Johnson way back in 99 (he had 12)
   18. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 20, 2019 at 05:57 PM (#5824136)
re: #14--Halladay never had double digit CG's but he had 9 four times (and led his lig each time)
   19. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 20, 2019 at 08:39 PM (#5824156)
I was going to guess R.A. Dickey, but his high was 5. Every year of the 1800's and 1900's (including 1981, 1994, and 1995) somebody had double-digits in complete games. That stopped in 2000. Sabathia (with ten in 2008) and the 2011 guy are the only two who have had 10+ since 1999.

I miss real, ace type SP so much I'm ready for radical steps. Like CG = -3 runs for the opposition, or every IP by the SP after 6 is -1 run. I F******* hate anonymous middle relievers.
   20. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 20, 2019 at 10:06 PM (#5824177)
last with ≥20:
Fernando 1986 20
Blyleven 1985 24

with ≥25
Langford 1980 28
Randy Jones 1976 25

with ≥30
Catfish 1975 30
Carlton 1972 30

   21. bookbook Posted: March 21, 2019 at 06:55 AM (#5824201)
What if they started a major league season, and nobody came?

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