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Monday, March 03, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 3-3-2014

Washington Herald, March 3, 1914:

The baseball war soon will be over and the Federals will be in organized baseball, is the rumor being circulated…
...
The plan that will end the war, according to the rumor, is this:

The Federals will abandon their plans for an eight-club league this year, and will drop Chicago and St. Louis, making it a six-club organization for 1914. Charles Weeghman, owner of the Chicago Federal team, will be allowed to purchase the Chicago Cub franchise and Otto Stifel, the St. Louis Federal League owner will be allowed to purchase the St. Louis Cardinal franchise.
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Next season, however, according to the rumor, the Federals will be an eight-club proposition and will have teams in the following cities: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Washington, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Brooklyn, and probably Buffalo, or some other city not yet decided upon.

Well, Weeghman did buy the Cubs as part of a plan to end the war, but it was two seasons later and the Federal League ceased to exist.

Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: March 03, 2014 at 09:43 AM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: March 03, 2014 at 10:03 AM (#4665227)
This almost has to be the worst Birthday Team with two Hall of Famers. The HOF guys are excellent, but after that...zilch. Radinsky's pretty good, I guess.

C: Ed Phelps
1B: Jumbo Schoeneck
2B: Monk Cline
3B: Paul Schaal
SS/SP/Manager: Monte Ward
LF: Matt Diaz
CF: Willie Keeler
RF: Bud Souchock

SP: Neal Heaton
SP: Chuck Cary
SP: Jesse Jefferson
SP: Bobby Locke
RP/Pitching Coach/Lead Singer: Scott Radinsky

Fun Name: Ron Wotus
Quad-A Utilityguy: Skeeter Barnes
Quarterback: A.J. Sager
   2. BDC Posted: March 03, 2014 at 10:45 AM (#4665240)
Hey, Paul Schaal used to be a favorite of mine. I had a Paul Schaal in Action baseball card that as I recall featured him leaping straight up into the air (though I'm wrong; I just Googled it and it shows him in a standard fielding position. I thought Schaal was an excellent player when I was 12, and to be fair, he was: he had a very good all-round season for the 1971 Royals.
   3. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: March 03, 2014 at 11:20 AM (#4665264)
I was at this Neal Heaton six-inning relief appearance. He didn't seem like a 5-11 W-L pitcher.
   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 03, 2014 at 11:37 AM (#4665286)
Paul Schaal became a successful chiropractor after his playing days were over. His ads ran all the time in KC. I think he used to joke all the time that he was so good as a ballplayer, it took a Hall of Famer to remove him from his position.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 03, 2014 at 12:38 PM (#4665341)
TRIVIA: There have been four trios of teammates that have drawn 100 walks together in the same season. One trio did it twice. Can you name the four trios? HINT: Three of the four occurred before the expansion era. HINT 2: Three of the four played for the same city.
   6. BDC Posted: March 03, 2014 at 12:51 PM (#4665356)
Ferris Fain, Eddie Joost, and Elmer Valo?
   7. AndrewJ Posted: March 03, 2014 at 12:58 PM (#4665363)
Dykstra, Kruk and Daulton on the 1993 Phillies.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 03, 2014 at 12:59 PM (#4665364)
Correct to both! Fain, Joost and Valo did it twice.

The other two trios each have a HOFer.
   9. BDC Posted: March 03, 2014 at 01:29 PM (#4665389)
I was thinking Rolfe, Crosetti, and Gehrig, but they never quite aligned. Actually Rolfe's career high in BB was only 90.
   10. BDC Posted: March 03, 2014 at 01:45 PM (#4665409)
I got 'em but will let others guess. The only surprise in the lot is the 1993 Phillies, where everything (mostly health) went right for the three guys in question. The others contained a player or two who you could pretty much count on for 100 walks.
   11. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: March 03, 2014 at 03:14 PM (#4665527)
I was going to guess some 1950's trio from the Red Sox, but doesn't appear to be.

[EDIT] Wrong decade.[EDIT]
   12. The District Attorney Posted: March 03, 2014 at 04:35 PM (#4665629)
Okay, so we have two pre-1969 teams, one of which is in Philly.

Interesting (at least given the huge dry spells for both Philly teams in that span). How about... Jimmie Foxx, Max Bishop and... yeesh, I don't really even know who else was on the team. Al Simmons?
   13. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 03, 2014 at 04:47 PM (#4665640)
Close enough. Foxx, Bishop and....Mickey Cochrane.
   14. The District Attorney Posted: March 03, 2014 at 05:01 PM (#4665650)
Alrighty. And #11 seems to imply the other team is the Red Sox. So... Ted Williams, Rudy York and Dom DiMaggio?
   15. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 03, 2014 at 05:10 PM (#4665656)
The Splendid Splinter is correct, but a little later than York.

Dom drew 96 walks in the year in question, making them 4 shy from being the only team with four 100 walk hitters. I believe this team has the record for most walks by a team, with 835.
   16. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 03, 2014 at 05:51 PM (#4665679)
The correct answer was Ted Williams/Johnny Pesky/Vern Stephens for the '49 Red Sox.
   17. The District Attorney Posted: March 03, 2014 at 06:55 PM (#4665723)
Alrighty. I was going to guess Ted, Stephens and Doerr. Forgot about Pesky. He was pretty freakin' good!

I wonder how many people in the '40s and '50s contemplated changing the rules because no one was putting the ball in play ;)
   18. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: March 03, 2014 at 08:14 PM (#4665757)
I wonder how many people in the '40s and '50s contemplated changing the rules because no one was putting the ball in play ;)
That's why Hitler invaded Poland.
   19. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: March 03, 2014 at 09:30 PM (#4665782)
That's why Hitler invaded Poland.


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