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Wednesday, March 07, 2018

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 3-7-2018

Washington Times, March 7, 1918:

Now that Dave Robertson has decided to retire from baseball, it is a certainty that Manager McGraw will use Ross Young [sic] in right field this season.
...
He is a wide, heavy swinger, with a good eye, and is fleet of foot. Ever since Young has been playing professional ball he has never hit under .300, and he has played in several minor leagues.

Ross Youngs hit .145 in 55 at-bats for the 1914 Austin Senators, though he was a 17-year-old playing in the Texas League. I’m willing to cut him some slack.

Youngs was a .322/.399/.441 career hitter in the major leagues and wound up in the Hall of Fame. Yes, it was a Veteran’s Committee pick and yes, he was elected during the years when the Committee was inducted everybody Frankie Frisch ever played with. But Ross Youngs was a hell of a hitter. I’m not going to make a HOF case for him, but Youngs was basically Tony Gwynn from 1918-1924, then struggled in 1925 before being diagnosed with the illness that ended his career in 1926 and his life in 1927. You can sort of see how Hall voters would look at his career and try to figure out what would have happened if he hadn’t been ill.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 07, 2018 at 11:57 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 07, 2018 at 12:01 PM (#5634898)
Today's Birthday Team. I'm not excited about Jeff Kent at shortstop, but he's the only person born on March 7 to make more than one big league appearance at short.

C: Red Wilson (4.64 WAR)
1B: Ed Bouchee (8.41 WAR)
2B: Tyler Ladendorf (-0.44 WAR)
3B: Tex Wisterzil (2.14 WAR)
SS: Jeff Kent (55.16 WAR)
LF: Joe Carter (19.3 WAR)
CF: Jimmie Hall (13.83 WAR)
RF: Jeff Burroughs (17.63 WAR)

SP: J.R. Richard (22.26 WAR)
SP: Doc Scanlan (13.05 WAR)
SP: Ed Willett (12.41 WAR)
SP: Dave Danforth (9.17 WAR)
SP: Dan Griner (3.84 WAR)
RP: Tom Acker (4.37 WAR)

Designated Francophone: Denis Boucher
Fun names: Soup Campbell, Mauro "Goose" Gozzo
Not that one: Albert Hall
Pitching coach: Galen Cisco
Robinson's dad: Jose Cano
   2. mathesond Posted: March 07, 2018 at 12:17 PM (#5634915)
A few Blue jays connections today - Cisco, Gozzo, Boucher, Burroughs, Carter & Kent. I wonder if Tom Acker and Jim Acker are related.
   3. Mike Webber Posted: March 07, 2018 at 12:19 PM (#5634918)
Today Jeff Kent and I both turn 50. I hope he feels as young as I do. Well, maybe even better than this really.
   4. BDC Posted: March 07, 2018 at 12:25 PM (#5634927)
Ed Bouchee came up in some search I did last year: maybe to find comps for Aaron Judge. I.e., guys age 24 or older who came out of nowhere to have an outstanding rookie season. Bouchee is tied for 39th-44th in bWAR (4.4) among rookie position players age 24 and up – a list that is designed to show him to advantage, naturally, but is still a darn good showing. Most such guys have some obvious factor for their sudden appearance: military service, color line, Cuba, Japan. Bouchee's factor is Korean-War-era service that slowed his rise through the minor leagues.

And then that one season accounted for over half his career WAR.
   5. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: March 07, 2018 at 12:27 PM (#5634929)
If MLB Presents hasn't done the story of J.R. Richard yet, they need to. How might the Astros franchise have turned out if he and Nolan Ryan (and Joe Niekro between them and later adding Mike Scott to the mix) had been able to pitch together for several years instead of 3 months?
   6. The Ghost of Logan Schafer Posted: March 07, 2018 at 01:15 PM (#5634974)
Now that Ichiro is continuing his career, there might be a three-year lull in first-ballot HOFers.
2019 (Rivera).....2020 (Jeter).....2021.....2022 (Big Papi probably not).....2023 (Beltran probably not).....2024 (Ichiro)
   7. Batman Posted: March 07, 2018 at 01:21 PM (#5634980)
A-Rod will be on the 2022 ballot... so that's a possibility.
   8. The Ghost of Logan Schafer Posted: March 07, 2018 at 03:16 PM (#5635032)
I wonder if A-Rod will get the Bonds/Clemens treatment or the Manny treatment.
   9. Walt Davis Posted: March 07, 2018 at 04:50 PM (#5635076)
Ortiz will be first ballot, especially under these circumstances. Beltran might as well. Those are seriously thin ballots coming up.

Huh ... it hadn't really sunk in ... Mussina is no2 the #2 backlogger at 63% and Edgar is out of his way either way next year. He'll make it in 2020 or 2012 at the latestalmost certainly go over in 2020.

So by 2022, it looks like a fight among Schilling, Halladay, Omar and possibly Pettitte as the top backloggers (ignoring Bonds and Clemens obviously). Ortiz will cruise in and, if Schilling also does in, Beltran has a shot at first ballot ... him or Halladay or nobody.

And 2022 is the last year for Bonds, Clemens, (Schilling) and Sosa. It will be Kent's 9th ballot. Unless Omar has no momentum from his current spot (definitely possible) his chances of getting in eventually are looking good.
   10. oscar madisox Posted: March 07, 2018 at 05:11 PM (#5635080)
Richard's baseball reference page says he attended Arizona State. I think that's a mistake. I have several Astros media guides from the 1970s and only one of them (1978) lists him attending ASU. That was still the cut-and-paste days of editing those guides, and I guess that an error occurred when the guide was put together. Richard was drafted out of high school in June of 1969 and played professionally that summer. I find it hard to believe he would attended college—specially in Arizona—in the offseason.
   11. AndrewJ Posted: March 07, 2018 at 06:07 PM (#5635088)
Mike Webber Posted: March 07, 2018 at 12:19 PM (#5634918)
Today Jeff Kent and I both turn 50.


That makes three of us. Happy birthday, Mike.

Also on this date: On 3/7/1893, the National League approved moving the pitcher's box back to 60'6". Probably the last significant rules change until the DH.
   12. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: March 07, 2018 at 10:35 PM (#5635189)
I think starting to count foul balls as strikes was significant.

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