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Wednesday, April 19, 2017

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 4-19-2017

Grantland Rice via the Harrisburg Telegraph, April 19, 1917:

A few days ago we had a long talk with Napoleon Lajoie, the eminent French Batting Eye, about the untrammelled ill-fortune that always followed Cleveland.

“There has never been anything in baseball like it,” he said, “and it has lasted for over fifteen years. There may be no such thing as a Hoodoo—but, whatever it is, it certainly gets on your nerves when you see star players hurt year after year by the queerest sort of accidents and injuries.”

Maybe it’s not specifically injuries these days, but the hoodoo and/or ill fortune is now well into its second century.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: April 19, 2017 at 10:30 AM | 24 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: cleveland, dugout, history, jinx

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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: April 19, 2017 at 10:34 AM (#5438044)
A nice Birthday Team today. No weaknesses and a handful of All-Stars.

C: Brent Mayne (3.01 WAR)
1B: Joe Mauer (49.7 WAR)
2B: Alberto Callaspo (8.94 WAR)
3B: Whitey Kurowski (23.95 WAR)
SS: Spike Owen (12.51 WAR)
LF: Jose Cruz Jr. (19.45 WAR)
CF: Jackie Bradley (8.6 WAR)
RF: Rick Miller (15.6 WAR)

SP: Bucky Walters (54.16 WAR)
SP: Frank Viola (47.41 WAR)
SP: Zach Duke (10.75 WAR)
SP: Scott Kamieniecki (9.19 WAR)
SP: Joe Beimel (7.27 WAR)
RP: John Wyatt (10.23 WAR)

Manager: Harry Craft
Fun name: Chick Shorten, Bugs Bennett
Occasional Primate: Mike Colbern
The Big Sweat: Dennys Reyes
   2. BDC Posted: April 19, 2017 at 10:36 AM (#5438046)
More records for the most times with a specific box-score line (AB, R, H, BI). Today we'll look at zero at-bats and runs, but some RBIs. PreservedFish has encouraged me to trivialize where possible :)

0 0 0 1 : a legendary pinch-hitter did this 19 times
0 0 0 2 : twenty-five random people did this once
0 0 0 3 : only one of the clutchiest of the great clutch hitters did this only once

Can you guess the record-holders for 0001 and 0003?

Yesterday the records for zero at-bats, no RBIs but some runs were analogous. The record for one run was held by a specialist (Matt Alexander), four runs by a few great players (Doby, Morgan, Henderson), but 0300 by many random guys.

A couple of the 0002 achievers are noteworthy. The most recent to do it was Danny Espinosa a year ago. He combined a sacrifice fly and a squeeze bunt, a common method. Others are two SFs, or an SF plus walking in a run.

Ken Berry, Greg Walker, and Wil Myers had an 0002 line in one plate appearance, which can only be done with a two-run sacrifice fly. Myers hit his in 2015.

One player, catcher Jim Essian in 1976, reached an 0002 line with two squeeze bunts.
   3. Rennie's Tenet Posted: April 19, 2017 at 10:38 AM (#5438049)
I'll guess teammates: Smokey Burgess and Bill Mazeroski.
   4. BDC Posted: April 19, 2017 at 10:40 AM (#5438052)
Burgess and Mazeroski fit the descriptions but do not hold the records.
   5. Batman Posted: April 19, 2017 at 10:53 AM (#5438067)
Manny Mota is the only legendary pinch hitter I can think of. At least he's the only one mentioned in Airplane!.
   6. BDC Posted: April 19, 2017 at 10:57 AM (#5438072)
Manny Mota is the all-time leader with nineteen 0001 box-score lines!
   7. Mike Webber Posted: April 19, 2017 at 11:05 AM (#5438082)
0 0 0 3 - David Ortiz?
   8. SoSH U at work Posted: April 19, 2017 at 11:10 AM (#5438086)
0 0 0 2 : twenty-five random people did this once


I was at an A's game where Mickey Tettleton started a game that way, coming on as a pinch-hitter and walking twice with the bases loaded. Alas, he ruined it by a) coming around to score the second time and b) getting a third trip to the plate, and hitting a three-run homer for a 1 2 1 5 line.

That was also the day Mark McGwire had the first hit (plus two more) of his career.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 19, 2017 at 11:16 AM (#5438093)
0 0 0 3 : only one of the clutchiest of the great clutch hitters did this only once


Is this a PH grand slam where the batter passed another baserunner?
   10. JustDan Posted: April 19, 2017 at 11:17 AM (#5438094)
Is this a PH grand slam where the batter passed another baserunner?

Pat Tabler?
   11. BDC Posted: April 19, 2017 at 11:20 AM (#5438101)
David Ortiz is the only player ever to have an 0 0 0 3 batting line. (Every such statement has to be qualified as "since 1913," so I'll just stop doing that.)

The game in question was on 3 July 2000, when he was stlll with the Twins. In three PAs, Ortiz walked in a run and hit two sacrifice flies.
   12. Batman Posted: April 19, 2017 at 11:25 AM (#5438110)
Two other 1-PA, 0-AB, 2-RBI games show up, but at least one of them is an error. bb-ref says Ernie Wingard did it on 7/10/27. His one PA was a walk and I don't think it's possible. Retrosheet's PBP says he did walk in his only time up, but the bases were empty and he doesn't have any RBI in that box score.

Jimmy Smith had a 0-1-0-2 line with 1 PA on 5/19/19. He must have pinch run and scored before he hit. His one PA was a bunt. He could have reached on an error, but both bb-ref and Retrosheet say there weren't any errors in the game. Neither one has the PBP.
   13. BDC Posted: April 19, 2017 at 11:29 AM (#5438114)
Yes, Batman, the earlier you go in these searches, you pick up some odd and incomplete results, and I have tended to ignore them. (I included Wingard in the total of 25, for instance, but couldn't make sense of the line, which among other things doesn't include SFs (they were scored as SHs in 1927).
   14. SoSH U at work Posted: April 19, 2017 at 11:36 AM (#5438122)
He could have reached on an error, but both bb-ref and Retrosheet say there weren't any errors in the game.


That would give him an AB.
   15. Batman Posted: April 19, 2017 at 11:41 AM (#5438127)
That would give him an AB.
Not if it was still a sacrifice. I can't imagine he would be given 2 RBI if there had been an error on a SH though.
   16. salvomania Posted: April 19, 2017 at 11:44 AM (#5438128)
I opened the Cardinals' bb-ref team page and noticed, as i examined the row of faces in descending order of 2017 WAR, that only eleven Cardinals even have positive WAR, and that doesn't include Matt Carpenter, or Aledmys Diaz, or Stephen Piscotty, or Yadier Molina, or Dexter Fowler, or Randal Grichuk, or Matt Adams, or Kolten Wong, or Adam Wainwright, or Seung-Hwan Oh....

Instead you get Mike Leake, with 1.4 bWAR already, followed by guys like Jedd Gyorko, Matt Bowman, Jose Martinez, Greg Garcia, Eric Fryer, and Sam Tuivailala.

I guess there's reason (or many reasons) why they're 5-9.
   17. salvomania Posted: April 19, 2017 at 11:45 AM (#5438129)
LF: Jose Cruz (19.45 WAR)

I think you need to be more specific. The other LF Jose Cruz (his dad) had 54.2 WAR.
   18. SoSH U at work Posted: April 19, 2017 at 11:56 AM (#5438137)
Not if it was still a sacrifice. I can't imagine he would be given 2 RBI if there had been an error on a SH though.


OK, I didn't realize you were talking about reaching on the bunt.
   19. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 19, 2017 at 12:18 PM (#5438159)
Opening Day, April 19, 1960 saw teams with players' last names as a standard on the back of their uniforms for the first time.
   20. Perry Posted: April 19, 2017 at 12:52 PM (#5438179)
Is this a PH grand slam where the batter passed another baserunner?


You'd get an at-bat and a hit for that, I believe.
   21. salvomania Posted: April 19, 2017 at 01:22 PM (#5438201)
The Orioles have played 12 games and Kevin Gausman has started 4 of them.
   22. Nasty Nate Posted: April 19, 2017 at 01:29 PM (#5438210)
And he doesn't even lead his team in innings.
   23. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: April 19, 2017 at 01:31 PM (#5438212)
I think you need to be more specific. The other LF Jose Cruz (his dad) had 54.2 WAR.
Fixed. The funny thing about that is that when I was building the roster, I saw the career stats, thought "I was certain Cruz was way better than that. How did he not have more than 1200 career hits?", and posted it.

I completely forgot that Jose Jr. was a baseball player, which...I have no idea how that happened.
   24. BDC Posted: April 19, 2017 at 02:01 PM (#5438237)
I completely forgot that Jose Jr. was a baseball player

I remembered him as a top prospect out of Rice, but didn't remember that he hit 200 home runs on the way to a 20-WAR career. He was such a can't-miss prospect that that career was something of a disappointment, which is unjust but how it goes sometimes.

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