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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 4-21-2014

Milwaukee Sentinel, April 21, 1914:

According to Charlie Barrett, [Yankees rookie Tom] Burr throws a natural curve on account of a bend in his right arm. This bend is not the result of a break, but is simply due to the fact that the young man’s arm chose to grow in a curve rather than in a straight line.

The drop, which most pitchers find difficulty in throwing, is easy for Burr. His team-mates have christened him ‘The man with the bowlegged arm.’

Burr never did pitch in the majors, though he made his one and only appearance in the big leagues as a center fielder 100 years ago today.

Burr quit pro baseball after 1914 and attended Williams College for a couple of years before enlisting in the army in 1917. A year later, 30 days before the end of The Great War, Burr was killed in a training accident in Cazaux, France. He was 24 years old.

Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 21, 2014 at 08:26 AM | 44 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 21, 2014 at 08:50 AM (#4690081)
An MVP and the all-time leader in games pitched highlight today's Birthday Team.

Hardy Richardson is pretty obscure, but was a helluva ballplayer. As a second baseman, he put up 12 consecutive seasons with OPS+ figures above 110. Led the National League in home runs and hits in 1886, then led the Players' League in RBI in 1890.

Also, I'm not jazzed about Brumbaugh and his 46 career AB in right field, but there wasn't a good option. I could have stuck Jeff Keppinger out there, but he's played seven career innings in right, so that seemed like cheating.

C: Ronny Paulino
1B: Chris Donnels
2B: Dick Green
3B: Ken Caminiti
SS: Germany Smith
LF: Hardy Richardson
CF: Al Bumbry
RF: Cliff Brumbaugh

SP: Gary Peters
SP: Kip Wells
SP: Les Lancaster
SP: Lefty Weinert
SP: Bill Faul
RP: Jesse Orosco

Fun Names: Bert Hogg, Greg Legg
Not That One: Kevin Brown
   2. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:09 AM (#4690091)
The games of April 18:

1984, in which a closer appears in the seventh inning (and after) and a decent, long-tenured player has the highest WPA of his career by a huge margin.

2014, in which the occasional reference to "closer as failed starter" was taken closely to heart by one of the two teams.
   3. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:12 AM (#4690093)
Games of April 19:

1984, in which two OK starters both threw complete games, because that was a thing that happened in 1984.

2014, in which a career day was had by a player who's much, much better than the guy who had one on 4/18/84.
   4. BDC Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:21 AM (#4690099)
The Carlos Gomez thread spurred me to look up Bob Gibson's HBPs on B-Ref. Gibson indeed hit more than his share of batters, but he never led the league. For the decade 1960-69, he was fifth in the majors in HBP. The leader was Don Drysdale with 112, followed by Jim Bunning with 111 – and interestingly enough, none of those three HOFers ever hit either of the other two with a pitch. Honor among drillers :)

Anyway, the trivia question occurs: who were 3rd and 4th for the decade in HBP? One was an American Leaguer then, a HOVG type still well-known to fans. The other is a forgotten National Leaguer – well, not forgotten by Cubs and Mets fans of a certain age, as he began the decade under the College of Coaches and finished it with the Miracles.
   5. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:25 AM (#4690105)
Question for the Dugout...

In the NBA thread over the weekend, the discussion came up of the "all first-name-as-last-name" team. The NBA version of this team is awesome, both current-year (Paul-George-James-Noah-Howard) and historic (Paul/Thomas-Jordan-James-Duncan-Russell).

The baseball version of the team is not as good, but it also brings up the issue that the best player in the history of baseball has a woman's first name for a last name. So I'd be curious to see if we can fill out two rosters - one of men's first names as last names, one of women's first names. (The men's team is deeper, but the women's team has a pretty decent core.)
   6. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:27 AM (#4690106)
One was an American Leaguer then, a HOVG type still well-known to fans.

I would figure on this one being Sudden Sam. He also has the highest wild pitch rate of any modern pitcher with at least his career innings total, which I discovered when looking for amusing facts about Jack Morris (who has the highest wild pitch rate of any modern pitcher with more innings than Morris, at least until the end of AJ Burnett's next healthy season).
   7. BDC Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:37 AM (#4690118)
Eric, McDowell was 24th in the 1960s in HBP with 43 – not a low rate (he was 30th in IP) but not among the top few.

Gibson, incidentally, hit 75 batters during that decade. The two guys ahead of him on the decade leaderboard hit 84 and 81.
   8. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:41 AM (#4690120)
Jim Kaat?
   9. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:47 AM (#4690123)
All men's first name team:

C: Gary Carter
1B: Eddie Murray or Frank Thomas or Roger Connor
2B: Joe Morgan (unless he goes on the women's team; if so, maybe Billy Herman)
3B: George Brett
SS: John Henry Lloyd (or Pee Wee Reese)
LF: Frank Howard maybe?
CF: Amos Otis?
RF: Hank Aaron
RHP: Grover Cleveland Alexander
LHP: Steve Carlton
RP: Hoyt Wilhelm

The women's team starts with Ruth and Rose (Rose giving a nice aspect of positional flexibility), and could be given Morgan as well. Fred Lynn in center. Apart from that...
   10. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:49 AM (#4690124)
A partial roster for the "All Women's First Names As Last Names" team:

C: Joe Torre
1B: Bill Terry
2B: Joe Morgan
3B: Pete Rose
SS: Pee Wee Reese
LF: Fred Lynn
CF: Joe Kelley
RF: Babe Ruth

SP: Satchel Paige, Jim Whitney, Jack Quinn, Frank Viola, Jack Taylor, Adonis Terry
RP: Frank Linzy, Dick Selma, Bob Shirley

Bench: Mark Grace, King Kelly, Albert Belle, Paul Blair, Jose Cruz
   11. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:49 AM (#4690125)
The women's team starts with Ruth and Rose (Rose giving a nice aspect of positional flexibility), and could be given Morgan as well. Fred Lynn in center. Apart from that...


All Girls Name as a Last Name Team
   12. BDC Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:51 AM (#4690129)
Yes – Kaat is the American League HBP leader for the 1960s, with 81.
   13. BDC Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:51 AM (#4690130)
I'm enough of a fan of The Sun Also Rises to argue for Brett on the women's team :)
   14. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:52 AM (#4690132)
I thought about George Brett for the women's team. Seemed like cheating.
   15. BDC Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:54 AM (#4690133)
I think of Kaat as a guy with excellent control, but it took him a few years to develop. He led the AL in both HBP and WP in 1961 and '62.
   16. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:56 AM (#4690136)
The other is a forgotten National Leaguer – well, not forgotten by Cubs and Mets fans of a certain age, as he began the decade under the College of Coaches and finished it with the Miracles.

that would have to be Don Cardwell--(checks) and indeed it is--in fact, on a HBP/IP basis he's ahead of Drysdale:

leaders in the decade in HBP/IP in the 60s:
1 Bo Belinsky 0.064
2 Ken McBride 0.062
3 Jim Lonborg 0.052
4 Chuck Estrada 0.052
5 Dave Wickersham 0.050
6 Don Cardwell 0.050
7 Frank Lary 0.048
8 Jim Bunning 0.043
9 Bob Bruce 0.043
10 Don Drysdale 0.043
11 Barry Latman 0.042
12 Bobby Bolin 0.041
13 Mickey Lolich 0.039
14 Ray Culp 0.038
15 Hank Aguirre 0.037
16 Jim Kaat 0.036
17 Bob Purkey 0.036
18 Bob Shaw 0.033
19 Ken Johnson 0.031
20 John Buzhardt 0.031
21 Bob Gibson 0.031
22 Stan Williams 0.030
23 Dave McNally 0.030
24 Gary Peters 0.030
25 Dean Chance 0.029


   17. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:58 AM (#4690138)
EDIT: Ah! Cardwell has already been mentioned and Eric J posted a good list, as did AG#1F (though, seriously, how did you miss Ruth!).
   18. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 21, 2014 at 10:00 AM (#4690139)
A partial roster for the "All Women's First Names As Last Names" team:

C: Joe Torre


This seems slightly like cheating, since the first name is never (to my knowledge, anyway) spelled like this.
   19. JJ1986 Posted: April 21, 2014 at 10:03 AM (#4690143)
Terry Kennedy can be the catcher.
   20. BDC Posted: April 21, 2014 at 10:04 AM (#4690146)
Cardwell has an interesting record. A lot of pitchers (Kaat is a good example) saw their K rates go up and walk rates go down after the 1963 strike-zone change. Cardwell started out as a power pitcher (he threw a no-hitter at the age of 24), and then did start walking fewer batters in 1963, but his strikeout rate also went down, and he began to lead the league in HBP at that point. Just the vagaries of how he aged and coped with the game, I suppose.
   21. Guapo Posted: April 21, 2014 at 10:04 AM (#4690147)
Other catcher candidates: King Kelly, Jason Kendall.
   22. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 21, 2014 at 10:05 AM (#4690148)
This seems slightly like cheating, since the first name is never (to my knowledge, anyway) spelled like this.
Yeah, that's probably true. Jason Kendall is probably next, but seems a bit sketchy as a choice.

Ed Bailey, then?
   23. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 21, 2014 at 10:11 AM (#4690157)
Someone in the Francouer prank thread mentioned that they'd like to see Frenchy re-invent his career as a pitcher. Well, he tossed a perfect frame for El Paso in the 8th inning yesterday.
   24. Rennie's Tenet Posted: April 21, 2014 at 10:54 AM (#4690165)
Milt May would be a good catcher.



   25. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 21, 2014 at 10:54 AM (#4690166)
So I have a question for any Play Index subscribers reading: What is the most plate appearances anyone has ever had in a game while meeting the criterion (Runs Scored > PA)? The player in question has to have entered as a pinch runner and scored, then scored after every subsequent plate appearance as well.

I ask, because I think the Game of April 20, 1984 could conceivably have the record-holder in this obscure category, in the person of a player who's semi-infamous in sabermetric circles (this game gave him his career high in runs scored, despite the fact that he didn't bat until the eleventh inning).

Also, it's the best game of 1984 so far, so it has that going for it.
   26. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: April 21, 2014 at 10:59 AM (#4690168)
I thought about George Brett for the women's team. Seemed like cheating.

This is the only Brett I know. Would she qualify?
   27. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 21, 2014 at 11:00 AM (#4690171)
I like the mental image I have of Frenchy out there on the mound, wondering why the batters aren't swinging at anything that comes within a foot of the plate.

Speaking of power-hitting outfielders reinventing themselves as pitchers, Jason Lane is off to a great start in El Paso this year. He has a 1.00 ERA, a 7:1 strikeout to walk ratio, and has allowed one home run in 18 innings.

Lane's 37 years old and doesn't throw all that hard, but I've gotta think that a lefty who throws strikes (1.4 BB/9 in his minor league career) and keeps the ball in the park (0.7 HR/9) is going to get a shot somewhere at some point. And that'll be supercool.
   28. Rennie's Tenet Posted: April 21, 2014 at 11:09 AM (#4690180)
Jack Klugman's wife was Brett Somers (although it turns out her real first name was Audrey and she took Brett from Hemingway).
   29. BDC Posted: April 21, 2014 at 11:37 AM (#4690212)
Eric, I get these results:

Player                      Date  Tm Opp PA R PosSummary
Andy Cannizaro        2006
-09-25 NYY TBD  2 3   PR SS 3B
Ryan Christenson      2003
-05-11 TEX CLE  2 3      PR CF
Joe Orsulak           1986
-08-30 PIT HOU  2 3      PR RF
Rob Picciolo          1984
-04-20 CAL TOR  2 3   PR 2B RF
Daryl Sconiers        1983
-08-19 CAL NYY  2 3      PR 1B
Craig Kusick          1979
-05-08 MIN TOR  2 3      PR 1B
Tony Perez            1965
-10-01 CIN SFG  2 3      PR 1B
Dal Maxvill           1963
-04-23 STL HOU  2 3      PR SS
Bubba Morton       1961
-08-27(2DET WSA  2 3      PR RF
Jo
-Jo White           1933-07-05 DET SLB  2 3         CF
Samuel Byrd           1932
-09-22 NYY PHA  2 3      PR LF 


I didn't find anyone who had 4 runs with 3 PA or 5 runs with 4, and didn't look for anybody higher, but there could be some bizarre game out on the high end somewhere.

All, as you note, started as PR. White must have done; he replaced Pete Fox in CF in that game and must have run for Fox initially.

Picciolo's WPA of .453 and other clutch stats for the 4-20-84 game are hugely higher than anyone else listed.
   30. BDC Posted: April 21, 2014 at 11:39 AM (#4690215)
And I don't remember that game by Ryan Christenson, BTW. In fact if you'd asked me who Ryan Christenson was I'd have said he was the guy in the Star Wars prequels.
   31. bobm Posted: April 21, 2014 at 11:46 AM (#4690220)
From 1914 to 2014, (requiring R>PA), sorted by greatest PA

                                                                               
Rk             Player          Date  Tm Opp    Rslt PA AB R H BB BOP PosSummary
1      Andy Cannizaro    2006-09-25 NYY TBD  W 16-1  2  1 3 1  1   4   PR SS 3B
2    Ryan Christenson    2003-05-11 TEX CLE W 17-10  2  2 3 2  0   6      PR CF
3         Joe Orsulak    1986-08-30 PIT HOU  W 13-3  2  2 3 2  0   5      PR RF
4        Rob Picciolo    1984-04-20 CAL TOR  W 10-6  2  2 3 2  0   2   PR 2B RF
5      Daryl Sconiers    1983-08-19 CAL NYY L  6-11  2  2 3 2  0   2      PR 1B
6        Craig Kusick    1979-05-08 MIN TOR  W 16-6  2  2 3 2  0   3      PR 1B
7          Tony Perez    1965-10-01 CIN SFG  W 17-2  2  2 3 2  0   5      PR 1B
8         Dal Maxvill    1963-04-23 STL HOU  W 15-0  2  1 3 1  1   2      PR SS
9        Bubba Morton 1961-08-27(2) DET WSA  W 10-1  2  2 3 1  0   2      PR RF
10        Jo-Jo White    1933-07-05 DET SLB  W  9-4  2  1 3 1  1   1         CF [?]
11        Samuel Byrd    1932-09-22 NYY PHA  W  8-7  2  2 3 2  0   3      PR LF


Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 4/21/2014.

ETA: Coke to BDC
   32. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 21, 2014 at 11:54 AM (#4690229)
Jack Klugman's wife was Brett Somers (although it turns out her real first name was Audrey and she took Brett from Hemingway).


Brett Butler was not only a terrific bunter, but a female comedian with a hit sitcom.
   33. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 21, 2014 at 12:11 PM (#4690246)
Picciolo's WPA of .453 and other clutch stats for the 4-20-84 game are hugely higher than anyone else listed.

Thanks, guys. Looks like Picciolo is also the only one of the group who played both infield and outfield in the same game after pinch running.
   34. esseff Posted: April 21, 2014 at 12:13 PM (#4690250)
In fact if you'd asked me who Ryan Christenson was I'd have said he was the guy in the Star Wars prequels.


Current manager of the Stockton Ports. Christenson, that is, not the Star Wars kid.
   35. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 21, 2014 at 12:28 PM (#4690265)
   36. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 21, 2014 at 01:38 PM (#4690346)
If it's possible, yesterday's Game of the Day had something even stranger than Rob Picciolo's heroic pinch running appearance 30 years ago. It features a reliever who got a hit in his first plate appearance in the majors (thereby putting John Paciorek on notice), did not allow a hit himself, and still took the loss.

I don't know if Play Index is capable of this search, since it seems to be split up by batting and pitching, and never the twain shall meet. But I would love to see a list of relief pitchers who had more hits than they allowed and still lost the game. (Or pitchers in general, for that matter, but it's got to be freakishly rare for a reliever.)
   37. bobm Posted: April 21, 2014 at 02:09 PM (#4690372)
[36] From 1914 to 2014, Team Lost, Played: P, as Sub, sorted by greatest H

http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/cOaQM

1 reliever game had a reliever with 4 hits as a batter, 30 had 3 hits, and 429 had 2 hits. (ETA: 5,821 reliever-games with 1 hit.)

31 games (H>=3) is a small enough group to inspect each box score. 460 not so much
   38. bobm Posted: April 21, 2014 at 02:14 PM (#4690379)
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHA/PHA195307280.shtml - e.g., Don Larsen with 3 hits as a batter, 2 surrendered and took the loss.
   39. bobm Posted: April 21, 2014 at 02:20 PM (#4690389)
[36] From 1914 to 2014, Team Lost, Played: P, as Starter, sorted by greatest H

1 SP with 5 hits as a batter (guess who?)
12 with 4
230 with 3
2,765 with 2
   40. Dr. Vaux Posted: April 21, 2014 at 02:24 PM (#4690398)
Jackson counts as a first name now, too. But maybe it would be more challenging to do a "first names before 1990" team (Jackson would be on that one, but Bailey wouldn't, for example).
   41. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 21, 2014 at 02:27 PM (#4690404)
Jason Kendall has a book coming out in a few weeks in case you were wondering.
   42. Walt Davis Posted: April 21, 2014 at 06:00 PM (#4690577)
Yeah, I don't see how we can play "first names as last names" if we're going to let "last names as first names" qualify as "first names". Jordan as a last name must go back hundreds of years; Jordan as a first name is probably only 40 years old. A name search on "Jordan" at imdb turns up almost no first-name Jordan men prior to 1990 and I didn't see a single woman prior to 2000. Just cuz you kids' parents were a bunch of trendy lemmings when it came to names is no reason to throw out all our standards!

By the way, if you want your kid to play MLB, I recommend Jarrod or Jared -- there have been 5 of the first and 6 of the second, all from 1997 onward. Also one Jarred ... which I'm hoping against hope is pronounced the way it's spelled.
   43. bobm Posted: April 21, 2014 at 07:01 PM (#4690609)
nametrends.net/name.php?name=Jordan

In the top 100 only since 1982
   44. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 21, 2014 at 07:10 PM (#4690620)
"first names before 1990" team (Jackson would be on that one, but Bailey wouldn't, for example).

No love for Jan Smithers in WKRP?

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