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Monday, April 07, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 4-7-2014

Pittsburgh Gazette Times, April 7, 1914:

Armando Marsans, the Cuban outfielder, who was ordered out of a game with Louisville last week by Manager Herzog, of the Cincinnati team, and who refused to play in games since then, had a long conference with Herzog [yesterday] and will rejoin the team [today] if a game can be played.

Marsans had been quoted as saying that he would jump to the Federal League or return to Havana.

As I mentioned last week, Marsans was a second-tier star at this point. In addition to being the first Cuban player with a significant career, he had hit .307 as a regular over the past two seasons and gotten MVP support both years.

His return to Cincinnati wasn’t a happy one, though. By June, Marsans and Herzog were at each others’ throats again. I’m sure I’ll follow the story closely as it unfolds in a couple months, but the Readers’ Digest version is that Marsans jumped to the Federal League, the Reds took it to court, and it pretty much ruined his career.

Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: April 07, 2014 at 08:38 AM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: April 07, 2014 at 08:49 AM (#4680770)
I had to do some shuffling on the left side of today's Birthday Infield, but it's not as weird as it looks at first glance.

McGraw came up as a shortstop, played 183 games there, and would be smart enough to know he's better with Adrian Beltre in the lineup than he'd be with Freddie Benavides at short and Beltre on the bench.

If you wanted to, you could play Ronnie Belliard at first and bench Ganzel.

C: Ben Petrick
1B: John Ganzel
2B: Bobby Doerr
3B: Adrian Beltre
SS/Manager: John McGraw
LF: Bobby Del Greco
CF: 1980s Bobby Mitchell
RF: Joe Hicks

SP: Brett Tomko
SP: Oral Hildebrand
SP: Bill Stoneman
SP: Tom Phoebus
SP: Ricky Bones
RP: Ed Lafitte
   2. Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: April 07, 2014 at 09:33 AM (#4680785)
I was trying to figure out who the Indians are going to dump when Michael Bourn returns, and I noticed...holy crap, they've got 13 pitchers. It's gotta be a pitcher that gets the ax, right? They can't possibly be planning on going all year with 12 position players.

In that case, I hope Blake Wood has some Columbus apartment guides to look through.
   3. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 07, 2014 at 09:57 AM (#4680799)
Games of April 4:

2014 - the first game of the Brewers-Red Sox series

1984 - a game that can be described in a way that would give Red Sox fans unpleasant flashbacks
   4. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 07, 2014 at 10:07 AM (#4680808)
Games of April 5:

2014 - the second and superior game of the Brewers-Red Sox series

1984 - the first career win for a pretty famous guy
   5. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: April 07, 2014 at 10:14 AM (#4680813)
Why are the orioles playing three straight day games? The schedule this year is bizarre.
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 07, 2014 at 10:16 AM (#4680815)
Why are the orioles playing three straight day games? The schedule this year is bizarre.


The schedule the first two week always seems to have a ton of weekday day games, and I have no idea why.
   7. Davo Dozier Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:00 AM (#4680870)
The schedule the first two week always seems to have a ton of weekday day games, and I have no idea why.

The weather up north--trust me, you do NOT want to be playing baseball at 10 PM in early April in Minneapolis/New York/Baltimore/etc.
   8. Chris Fluit Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:54 AM (#4680923)
3? It's 5. The Orioles played Friday afternoon in Detroit, then the normal Sat. afternoon and Sun. afternoon. Now, they're playing Monday afternoon in NY for the Yankees' home opener and then they're scheduled to play Tuesday afternoon as well. The Orioles have only played two night games so far. And honestly, one of those should have been an afternoon game as well. They played a getaway game on Thursday night and then had to fly to Detroit before the Fri afternoon game. The players barely got any sleep at all due to the short turnaround and travel.
   9. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 07, 2014 at 11:55 AM (#4680924)
Games of April 6:

2014 - another Twins slugfest win thanks to AL RBI leader Chris Colabello

1984 - featuring arguably the most mediocre long-career starter in MLB history, a momentary redemption of a famous bad trade, and an omen of doom coming 6 months in advance
   10. Davo Dozier Posted: April 07, 2014 at 12:07 PM (#4680945)
The Minnesota Twins have the best offense in all of baseball, scoring 6.3 runs a game.

They have the worst pitching in all of baseball too--their pitchers are giving up 6.3 runs a game, too.

So, the average Twins game this year has seen 12.66 runs scored. The average Braves game this year has had....4 runs scored (scoring 2.5, giving up 1.5).
   11. Curse of the Andino Posted: April 07, 2014 at 12:53 PM (#4681008)
They played a getaway game on Thursday night and then had to fly to Detroit before the Fri afternoon game. The players barely got any sleep at all due to the short turnaround and travel.


Tagliabue hates Baltimore, man.
   12. Davo Dozier Posted: April 07, 2014 at 01:26 PM (#4681062)
The Yankees and Royals each have higher OBPs than SLGs this year.

Only one team in the live-ball era has done that over a full season--the 1943 Chicago White Sox, who went 82-72, despite an OBP of .322 vs a SLG% of .320.
   13. Davo Dozier Posted: April 07, 2014 at 01:40 PM (#4681087)
The 1972 Rangers had a .290 OBP and a .290 SLG. What a sad looking team that was
   14. djrelays Posted: April 07, 2014 at 01:42 PM (#4681089)
#12:
Only one team in the live-ball era has done that over a full season--the 1943 Chicago White Sox, who went 82-72, despite an OBP of .322 vs a SLG% of .320.


Year of the balata ball.
   15. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: April 07, 2014 at 03:15 PM (#4681210)
The 1972 Rangers had a .290 OBP and a .290 SLG. What a sad looking team that was
Whoever managed that team must not have known anything about hitting.

That team was 53-45 when they scored two or more runs. Unfortunately, there were 56 games where they couldn't score at least two.
   16. Rennie's Tenet Posted: April 07, 2014 at 03:58 PM (#4681253)
1972 was right in my adolescent baseball wheelhouse, so there weren't many regular players who I'd draw a complete blank on today. That Rangers team has three of them.
   17. Lindor Truffles Posted: April 07, 2014 at 04:08 PM (#4681262)
I was trying to figure out who the Indians are going to dump when Michael Bourn returns, and I noticed...holy crap, they've got 13 pitchers. It's gotta be a pitcher that gets the ax, right? They can't possibly be planning on going all year with 12 position players.

In that case, I hope Blake Wood has some Columbus apartment guides to look through.

Francona seems to love Blake, I'm thinking Atchison goes and Pestano gets a bit more time to figure things out. There are a ton of younger relievers in a Columbus that could easily fill in...CC Lee, Barnes, Hagadone.

The bigger problem is gonna be that 5 spot in the rotation. Carrasco, Bauer and Tomlin will be on I-71 a bunch this season, I bet. There's no one else ready. Not a good situation.
   18. Davo Dozier Posted: April 07, 2014 at 04:15 PM (#4681274)
I was trying to figure out who the Indians are going to dump when Michael Bourn returns, and I noticed...holy crap, they've got 13 pitchers. It's gotta be a pitcher that gets the ax, right? They can't possibly be planning on going all year with 12 position players.

I figured Nyjer Morgan would get the axe, but not sure if Cleveland's made an announcement.
   19. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: April 07, 2014 at 04:19 PM (#4681286)
1972 was right in my adolescent baseball wheelhouse, so there weren't many regular players who I'd draw a complete blank on today. That Rangers team has three of them.

I've heard of all those players except Dick Billings, Dave Nelson, Joe Lovitto, Ted Ford, Vic Harris, Dalton Jones, Jim Mason, Hal King, Bill Fahey, Ted Kubiak, Tom Ragland, Marty Martinez, Ken Suarez, Jim Driscoll, Dick Bosman, Rich Hand, Bill Gogolewski, Horacio Pina, Mike Paul, Jim Panther, Casey Cox, Jim Shellenback, Steve Lawson, Gerry Janeski, Rich Hinton, Jim Roland, and Jan Dukes.

Jim Shellenback has some of the weirdest facial expressions I've ever seen on a baseball card. Both in young and old forms he looks bizarre. Does anyone remember this guy?

A duet of horrors
   20. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: April 07, 2014 at 04:33 PM (#4681310)
I've heard of all those players except... Dave Nelson... Dick Bosman,
Those two were White Sox coaches during my adolescent baseball wheelhouse. Partly because of that, a 1969 Topps Bosman was the oldest card in my collection.
   21. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: April 07, 2014 at 09:11 PM (#4681545)
Someone, share my horror at discovering Jim Shellenback!

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