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Wednesday, April 09, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 4-9-2014

Toledo News-Bee, April 9, 1914:

Hi Jasper, White Sox recruit twirler, carries a bar of soap in his pocket and lathers his spitballs, instead of using the time honored saliva, it was learned when the Comiskey men drew in [to Kansas City] for an exhibition game on Thursday. Baseball reporters uncovered Jasper’s shampoo treatment while huddled around a stove in Topeka, where cold weather prevented Wednesday’s game.

Somebody tell Bubbles Hargrave, Chick Lathers, and Cookie Lava-Getto.

Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 09, 2014 at 07:57 AM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 09, 2014 at 08:02 AM (#4682637)
Pretty good pitching staff on today's Birthday Team. Not much in the way of offense, though.

C: A.J. Ellis
1B: Hal Morris
2B: Jim Rogers
3B: Mike Muldoon
SS: Mike Brumley
LF: Nate Colbert
CF: Ollie Pickering
RF: Bryan Petersen

SP: Doc White
SP: Hippo Vaughn
SP: Claude Passeau
SP: Kirk McCaskill
SP: Vic Sorrell
RP: Graeme Lloyd

Manager: Jack Hendricks
Owner: Richard Muckerman
Umpire: Joe Brinkman
Beat Writer: Peter Gammons
Fun Names: Happy Townsend, Tiny Osborne, Dizzy Sutherland, Talmadge Nunnari
   2. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 09, 2014 at 08:08 AM (#4682642)
so some interesting elements with the 2014 brewers

the most interesting thing, to me at least, is the platooning taking place at both first and second base. now, the platoons are very natural. gennett/weeks at second should be a no brainer. gennett is pretty helpless against lefties and if weeks is to have any value at all it's against lefties. and this will also minimize rickie's time in the field which is good because in the last 2 years his subpar defense has cratered into an ugly place. regarding first base it's overbay and Reynolds which is not nearly as sounds as overbay's bat died some time ago only doug Melvin didn't see the note in the obituaries.

I mention this primarily because you don't see multiple platoons on a major league team very often these days much less platoons that look to be in place for an entire season.

the brewers manager confounds me at times but things like this lend me pause that maybe ron DOES have more positives than negatives

   3. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 09, 2014 at 08:15 AM (#4682646)
I do like the idea of smaller-market teams taking a position of weakness - and let's face it, first base was stinkeroo for the Crew last year - and building a useful platoon out of spare parts nobody else wanted. If you're not spending $120 million on your roster, you're going to have to take some chances.

The Tribe did this in '07 with Michaels and Dellucci in left. It didn't work, but it was a reasonable thing to do with a limited budget.
   4. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 09, 2014 at 08:24 AM (#4682654)
dan

agreed save for the choice of overbay over juan Francisco. I 'get' that juan Francisco is no great shakes at first base, the guy strikes out a LOT and he just looks like kind of flabby in the uniform. but the guy can go on a power streak for 2 weeks every so often that can help the team.

lyle is now a left-handed enos cabell circa 1985. and that ain't helping anybody
   5. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: April 09, 2014 at 08:40 AM (#4682660)
Somebody tell Bubbles Hargrave, Chick Lathers, and Cookie Lava-Getto.

Don't forget Tyler Dial or Jack "Irish" Spring!
   6. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 09, 2014 at 08:58 AM (#4682678)
as overbay's bat died some time ago only doug Melvin didn't see the note in the obituaries.

Well, HW, it's a good thing my coffee cup was on the desk and not up to my mouth, or I would have been in a frenzy trying to salvage my computer equipment from a coffee bath. That just cracked me up.
   7. BDC Posted: April 09, 2014 at 09:11 AM (#4682689)
Adrian Beltre Milestone Watch: with two RBIs last night at Fenway, Beltre ties Mickey Vernon and Larry Walker for 101st on the career list (1,311).
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 09, 2014 at 09:19 AM (#4682693)
Mike Moustakas finally got a hit in the 9th inning last night, after 24 hitless PAs to start the season. Mets catcher Travis D'Arnaud collected two hits after 17 hitless PAs. Astros rookie outfielder Marc Krauss is now your hitless leader with 15 PAs.
   9. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 09, 2014 at 09:31 AM (#4682705)
ed

glad I could generate a chuckle

I do not find overbay's roster spot nearly so amusing
   10. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 09, 2014 at 11:12 AM (#4682835)
Vinnie Pestano got destroyed again last night for the Tribe. He's now faced 17 batters and gotten 8 of them out.

In 2011-12, he was one of the best relievers in baseball: 132 IP, 94 hits, 2.45 ERA, 160 ERA+, 10.9 strikeouts per nine innings. Since then, he's lost 5 MPH from his fastball and become a trainwreck.

I channeled my inner ChadBradfordWannabe and made a comparison animation of Awful Pestano and Fantastic Pestano. He's blowing through his delivery a lot more quickly than he did back in 2011, and his elbow is noticeably lower now as he cocks his arm. In 2014, his elbow never gets above his shoulder. In 2011, his elbow was easily a half-foot above his shoulder.

I don't know what this means, but I do know that (small sample size alert!) I have a torn rotator cuff and that it's extremely difficult for me to lift my elbow over my shoulder. I wouldn't be surprised if Pestano is permanently broken, and that what we're seeing is now what he is.
   11. WahooSam Posted: April 09, 2014 at 11:49 AM (#4682885)
I loved good platoons. If memory serves me right, when Bobby Cox was managing the Jays, he platooned Ernie Whitt and Buck Martinez at catcher, Garth Iorg and Rance Mulliniks at 3B, and Cliff Johnson and Jorge Orta at DH
   12. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: April 09, 2014 at 12:28 PM (#4682918)
I love Lyle Overbay. It's incredibly difficult to stay employed as an MLB First Baseman That Cannot Hit. The only other FBTCH I can think of is Travis Ishikawa. Extra kudos are due Overbay because the last half of his long career has been as a FBTCH.
   13. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 09, 2014 at 12:33 PM (#4682922)
I think Casey Kotchman's 0-for-20 season in 2013 brought to an end his career as a FBTCH. I'd like him more if he hadn't spent a year in Cleveland not hitting.
   14. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: April 09, 2014 at 12:54 PM (#4682943)
I loved good platoons. If memory serves me right, when Bobby Cox was managing the Jays, he platooned Ernie Whitt and Buck Martinez at catcher, Garth Iorg and Rance Mulliniks at 3B,


Bill James once asked what the odds were of a team having platoons with players named Garth, Rance, Hosken and Jesse.

   15. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 09, 2014 at 01:00 PM (#4682945)
If there was going to be a team with guys named Garth and Rance, it almost had to be in Canada.
   16. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: April 09, 2014 at 01:00 PM (#4682947)
I love Lyle Overbay. It's incredibly difficult to stay employed as an MLB First Baseman That Cannot Hit. The only other FBTCH I can think of is Travis Ishikawa. Extra kudos are due Overbay because the last half of his long career has been as a FBTCH.


Mike Squires had an entire 10-year career as a FBTCH. In his case, the CH was no secret, and the White Sox got creative trying to see if his excellent glove would play elsewhere (a task made more difficult by its location on his right hand).

   17. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: April 09, 2014 at 01:13 PM (#4682956)
I had to step away from my fantasy auction a few weeks ago, and Yahoo's auto-bid feature decided I needed FBTCH Yuniesky Betancourt on my team.
   18. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: April 09, 2014 at 02:18 PM (#4683042)
If FBTCH somehow catches on and becomes a long running BBTF acronym, would one of you see to it that it is etched into my tombstone?
   19. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 09, 2014 at 02:23 PM (#4683051)
I love Lyle Overbay. It's incredibly difficult to stay employed as an MLB First Baseman That Cannot Hit. The only other FBTCH I can think of is Travis Ishikawa.


Worst OPS+, 1B since 1994 (min. 200 PAs)
1. JR Phillips - 57
2. Dan Masteller - 68
3. Scott Thorman - 70
4. Brad Eldred - 74
5. Andy Phillips - 75
6. Kevin Barker - 77
7. Brandon Allen - 78
8. Mario Valdez - 80
9. Lance Niekro -81
10.Dave McCarty -84

16.Travis Ishikawa - 92

Matt LaPorta and Brett Wallace are also high on the list.
   20. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: April 09, 2014 at 02:40 PM (#4683065)
I involuntarily shudder when someone mentions Matt LaPorta.

*shudder*
   21. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 09, 2014 at 02:41 PM (#4683068)
It really should be FBWCH. First Baseman WHO Cannot Hit.

That said, if FBTCH catches on, I'll go with the flow. It looks like a dirty word so it's got that going for it.
   22. Rennie's Tenet Posted: April 09, 2014 at 03:29 PM (#4683133)
Mike Jorgenson, Jim Spencer.
   23. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 09, 2014 at 03:39 PM (#4683147)
Ross Gload, Tony Muser, Ken Harvey, Pete LaCock, Todd Benzinger.
   24. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: April 09, 2014 at 03:47 PM (#4683161)
Pete Rose.
   25. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: April 09, 2014 at 03:53 PM (#4683177)
I was just going to mention the immortal JR Phillips.

Daric Barton is a promising FBTCH.
   26. Nasty Nate Posted: April 09, 2014 at 03:56 PM (#4683181)
Worst OPS+, 1B since 1994 (min. 200 PAs)
1. JR Phillips - 57
2. Dan Masteller - 68
3. Scott Thorman - 70
4. Brad Eldred - 74
5. Andy Phillips - 75
6. Kevin Barker - 77
7. Brandon Allen - 78
8. Mario Valdez - 80
9. Lance Niekro -81
10.Dave McCarty -84


This must be career, because I don't see Tony Clark's 47 from 2002.
   27. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 09, 2014 at 05:02 PM (#4683288)
April 8, 1984, was a pretty awesome day of baseball - it includes the three best games of 1984 so far, with none of the others especially close. The best of the top three was the kind of game that makes me love doing these writeups. It went 13 innings, featured the second career appearance of a pitcher who would later become pretty well-known (for a different team) and the breakout performance for a hitter who would quickly become extremely well-known (for the same team). Also, it features possibly the dumbest intentional walk I've encountered in one of these things.

Here it is.
   28. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 09, 2014 at 05:23 PM (#4683315)
This must be career, because I don't see Tony Clark's 47 from 2002.


Yes. Otherwise I think Miguel Cairo's 30 OPS+ from a few years ago would top the list.
   29. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: April 09, 2014 at 06:17 PM (#4683362)
Game of yesterday: In a shocking twist, it's the extra-inning one!

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