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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 5-14-2018

Bridgeport Times, May 14, 1918:

Ferdie Schupp, the Giants’ youthful southpaw, whose pitching arm has been troubling him all Spring, paid a visit to Bonesetter Reese in Youngstown, Ohio yesterday.

The specialist, after a close examination of the arm, found that the young pitcher had pulled a tendon close to the shoulder. He snapped the tendon back into place and ordered Schupp to refrain from pitching at least a week, after which he said the arm would be as good as ever.

Schupp reported last week that the injured arm felt a trifle better than it had but he hurt it anew in an exhibition game at Akron, Sunday.

And the moral of the story is “avoid Akron”. Schupp was one of the best pitchers in baseball before he blew out his shoulder; he put up a 1.59 ERA (158 ERA+) and allowed 281 hits in 412.1 innings in 1916-1917. After the arm injury, he had a 74 ERA+ and was out of the majors at age 31.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: May 14, 2018 at 10:07 AM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: May 14, 2018 at 10:09 AM (#5671728)
Good Birthday Team today. That pitching staff will do just fine, thankyouverymuch.

C: Pat Borders (3.62 WAR)
1B: Tony Perez (54.01 WAR)
2B: Joey Cora (7.94 WAR)
3B: Christian Colon (1.75 WAR)
SS/Manager: Dick Howser (9.57 WAR)
LF: Bob Thurman (1.42 WAR)
CF: Earle Combs (42.51 WAR)
RF: Hosken Powell (1.48 WAR)

SP: Ed Walsh (65.95 WAR)
SP: Roy Halladay (64.31 WAR)
SP: Dennis Martinez (48.95 WAR)
SP: Dick Tidrow (13.2 WAR)
SP: Brian Lawrence (7.97 WAR)
RP: Dave LaRoche (15.03 WAR)
RP: Luke Gregerson (6.64 WAR)

Owners: Alex Pompez, J.L. Wilkinson
Umpire: Johnny Stevens
Frequently hangs out near Port Melbourne, Victoria: Doc Land
Fun name: Wimpy Quinn
   2. BDC Posted: May 14, 2018 at 10:44 AM (#5671757)
Some box-score-line records that do not make interesting trivia. Most times with the exact line ab/r/h/bi in regular-season games since 1908:

4 0 0 1 : Dave Winfield, 30

4 0 0 2 : Bobby Doerr, 5 (Winfield is tied for second, 4 games, with Jimmie Foxx and Andy Pafko)

4 0 0 3 : seventeen men have done this once, most recently Chad Curtis in 2000. Some slow sluggers have done it (eg Smoky Burgess), but the 4003 club tend to be fast runners, probably because one or more of their RBIs in such a game come from beating the relay throw on a double-play ball. Among the other 16 are Darin Erstad, Tony Gwynn, Amos Otis, Dave Concepcion, Bert Campaneris, Joe DiMaggio, and George Sisler.

One guy to achieve a 4003 game was Johnny Welaj, an American Leaguer of the late 1930s and early '40s whom I got to know as a Texas Ballpark regular about 20 years ago. Welaj was a speed merchant; he told me once that Lou Gehrig had pronounced him the best athlete he'd seen on a ballfield. Welaj's 4003 game consisted of two SFs and a ground-ball out; the equally fast George Case scored two of the runs (for the Senators against Philadelphia, in a game in 1940).
   3. Batman Posted: May 14, 2018 at 10:49 AM (#5671758)
Schupp got six wins, all of them complete games, during the Giants' 26-game winning streak in 1916. He had a 0.33 ERA and hitters hit .099/.153/.134 in 186 plate appearances against him during the streak. He had a 0.90 ERA in 140 innings that year.
   4. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: May 14, 2018 at 10:53 AM (#5671763)
Over the weekend, the Blue Jays DFA'd Carlos Ramirez, an apparently healthy relief pitcher who put up a 0.00 ERA with 45 strikeouts, 10 walks, and zero HR in 37.2 AA-AAA innings last year. In limited MLB time, he's allowed 7 hits in 19 innings and put up a 166 ERA+.

What in the world are they doing? Did he sleep with someone's wife or something?
   5. BDC Posted: May 14, 2018 at 11:23 AM (#5671786)
Ramirez apparently can't find the plate, walking 13 of the 51 batters he's faced between AAA and the majors this season.

But guys like that, if healthy, can also regain control in a big hurry. Some team at some level will take a chance to find out, I'm sure.
   6. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: May 14, 2018 at 11:32 AM (#5671798)
There's a team a bit southwest of Toronto, on the northern coast of Ohio, that's spent this season giving relief innings to Matt Belisle, Alexi Ogando, Oliver Drake, and Jeff Beliveau. I'd be ecstatic if they took a flyer on Ramirez.
   7. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 14, 2018 at 11:32 AM (#5671799)
I learned some interesting White Sox history yesterday: In August 1980, Bill Veeck reached an agreement to sell the team to Eddie DeBartolo, who was subsequently turned down by the American League owners. But there was also a local group that tried to buy the Sox at that point - and one of its investors was none other than Harry Caray. I've never heard of a broadcaster owning a team before, but apparently, it almost happened.
   8. Nasty Nate Posted: May 14, 2018 at 01:02 PM (#5671911)
TRIVIA - name this position player:
For 4 consecutive years, he was on a team that lost in the LDS. However, he was on a different team in each LDS, and the opponent was also different in each LDS (8 unique teams). A few years before this bad postseason stretch, he had been on the winning team in a famous LCS.
   9. Batman Posted: May 14, 2018 at 02:01 PM (#5671988)
I guessed Reggie Sanders, but I guessed wrong.
   10. JustDan Posted: May 14, 2018 at 02:07 PM (#5671995)
almost Kenny Lofton (but only one of these is an LDS)
2001 on Indians, beat by Mariners
2002 on Giants, beat by Angels
2003 on Cubs, beat by Marlins
2004 on Yankees, beat by Red Sox
   11. Nasty Nate Posted: May 14, 2018 at 02:24 PM (#5672005)
almost Kenny Lofton
Lofton was on a crazy stretch (expanding beyond the 4 years you mention) where his teams were one win from advancing or winning it all, but they just couldn't nail it down and the series slipped away.
   12. Batman Posted: May 14, 2018 at 02:29 PM (#5672012)
I found the answer by cheating. I forgot the player moved around so much. I only remember him as a member of four teams, but he played for nine.
   13. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: May 14, 2018 at 02:30 PM (#5672014)
Article about Brandon Mann, who pitched for the Rangers yesterday after 16+ years in the minors and Japan. This is a guy who was drafted by the Devil Rays in 2002, played in the low minors with Reid Brignac, Evan Longoria, John Jaso, Andy Sonnanstine and all those guys, and now he makes his debut.
   14. Nasty Nate Posted: May 14, 2018 at 02:34 PM (#5672019)
TRIVIA - name this position player:
For 4 consecutive years, he was on a team that lost in the LDS. However, he was on a different team in each LDS, and the opponent was also different in each LDS (8 unique teams). A few years before this bad postseason stretch, he had been on the winning team in a famous LCS.
Here's a hint: he was one of the players no-hit by Halladay in that NLDS. I don't know if that's a helpful hint, because he was only on the Reds that one season.
   15. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: May 14, 2018 at 03:04 PM (#5672054)
I watched that no-hitter and after looking it up, I have no memory of the player in question being on the Reds. But I also have no memory of Jonny Gomes being on the Reds and he was there 2.5 seasons. So maybe I just have no memory.
   16. Nasty Nate Posted: May 14, 2018 at 03:16 PM (#5672062)
Another hint: he played in one of the series mentioned in post #10, but it was not part of the 4 consecutive losing LDS's.
   17. Batman Posted: May 14, 2018 at 03:22 PM (#5672070)
I have no memory of the Reds playing in that game.
   18. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: May 14, 2018 at 03:58 PM (#5672119)
probably because one or more of their RBIs in such a game come from beating the relay throw on a double-play ball


I thought that there was no RBI granted in such situations? What am I confusing it with?
   19. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: May 14, 2018 at 04:44 PM (#5672160)
I thought that there was no RBI granted in such situations? What am I confusing it with?


No RBI on a GIDP. An RBI counts on a FC.
   20. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: May 14, 2018 at 04:51 PM (#5672168)
No RBI on a GIDP. An RBI counts on a FC.

Got it, thanks.
   21. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: May 14, 2018 at 06:38 PM (#5672253)
Here's a hint: he was one of the players no-hit by Halladay in that NLDS. I don't know if that's a helpful hint, because he was only on the Reds that one season.


Man, i am a Reds fan and if you had asked me if the player in question had ever been a Red, i would have said no.
   22. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: May 14, 2018 at 06:56 PM (#5672257)
40 years ago today. [language NSFW]
   23. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 14, 2018 at 07:06 PM (#5672260)
Orlando Cabrera.

Drops mic.
   24. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: May 14, 2018 at 07:27 PM (#5672273)
Orlando Cabrera had quite the career.

7 1/2 years with the Expos.
Then 7 1/2 years with the Red Sox, Angels, White Sox, Athletics, Twins, Reds, Indians, and Giants.
   25. AndrewJ Posted: May 14, 2018 at 09:20 PM (#5672330)
Is 5/14 the only Birthday Team with two perfect game pitchers?
   26. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 14, 2018 at 09:26 PM (#5672334)
40 years ago today. [language NSFW]

No one will ever top Buccaneers coach John McKay for greatest coach/manager quote of all time.

Q: "What do you think of the execution of your offense?"
A: "I'm in favor of it."

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