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Tuesday, May 15, 2018

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 5-15-2018

Toledo News-Bee, May 15, 1918:

By hitting home runs in three consecutive games he participated in Babe Ruth a few days ago tied the record for homers in consecutive games. Curiously enough the record has only been accomplished by pitchers, Ruth and Ray Caldwell.

I’m beginning to think Babe Ruth might be good at baseball.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: May 15, 2018 at 09:31 AM | 35 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: May 15, 2018 at 09:32 AM (#5672528)
Today's Birthday Team is AL Central-heavy. Three Indians, at least two Twins, at least two Royals. Justin Morneau spent a season wearing White Sox and Smoltz was originally drafted by the Tigers.

C/Manager: A.J. Hinch (0.0 WAR)
1B: Justin Morneau (27.2 WAR)
2B: Brian Dozier (23.4 WAR)
3B: George Brett (88.7 WAR)
SS: Steve Yerkes (6.9 WAR)
LF: Michael Brantley (19.3 WAR)
CF: Bill North (26.8 WAR)
RF: Jimmy Wasdell (2.8 WAR)

SP: John Smoltz (69.1 WAR)
SP: Josh Beckett (35.7 WAR)
SP: Al McBean (15.0 WAR)
SP: Rick Waits (14.4 WAR)
SP: Fred Goldsmith (12.4 WAR)
RP: Rafael Perez (4.3 WAR)

FIPS outlier: Steve Woodard
Not that one: 1959-60 Ben Johnson
What's the worst kind of steak?: Harry Salisbury
Sporting goods mogul: Rihachi Mizuno
Owner: James Stillwell
   2. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: May 15, 2018 at 09:50 AM (#5672537)
Are there more four-game series this year? The Phillies have already pulled off four-game sweeps of the Pirates and Giants, and they have another four-game series with the Cardinals next week. (this time they will be swept instead, since it's on the road)
   3. Mike Emeigh Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:03 AM (#5672542)
Are there more four-game series this year?


Yes. The interdivision schedule is such that teams play either six or seven games against teams from opposing divisions, and when you play seven it necessitates a four-game series. Teams also play 19 games against division rivals, which also necessitates a four-game series here and there.

-- MWE
   4. BDC Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:09 AM (#5672545)
Some more box-score-line records (most regular-season games of exactly that ab/r/h/bi line, since 1908). Trivia opportunities are in bold:

4 1 0 1 : a Hall of Famer with a metaphorical equine nickname did this 11 times

4 2 0 1 : a Hall of Famer did this five times, presumably involving some mad dashes where defenders held the ball

4 3 0 1 : ten have done this once, but only another mythical steed has managed it in the past 40 years

4 1 0 2 : four men did this twice. They are not the obscurest of old-timers, but it's interesting that they were contemporaries (all active in the majors 1935-37), and two (Ossie Bluege and Jackie Hayes) were teammates in the Senators' infield. The others were Ray Mueller, an NL catcher, and Ski Melillo, second baseman for the Browns. I doubt people referred to the late 1930s as the "4102" era but it would have been valid

4 1 0 3 : done once by a decent regular player, not quite a star, in 1987: this guy was well-known for driving in a lot of runs without much power

4 2 0 2 : fifteen players have done it once, the last was Coco Crisp in 2004

4 3 0 2 : a star player did this in 1947; he won one MVP award but is not a HOFer. His day consisted of two RBI forceouts after which he came around to score; a walk and score; a GDP; and a 13 groundout. That was good for an -0.6 RE24 according to B-Ref, which I imagine is hard to achieve if you score three runs and drive in two
   5. BDC Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:20 AM (#5672555)
Addendum: indeed, according to B-Ref, the 4302 game is the third-lowest RE24 on record for a batter who had 3 Runs and 2 RBI, the "worse" performances being by Mark Grace in 1995 and Cliff Floyd in 1994.
   6. RickA. Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:21 AM (#5672557)
4101 - Lou Gehrig
4201 - Enos Slaughter
   7. EddieA Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:22 AM (#5672560)
4301 - ARod
4103- Tom Herr
   8. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:22 AM (#5672561)
4 3 0 1 : ten have done this once, but only another mythical steed has managed it in the past 40 years


Alex Rodriguez?

4 1 0 3 : done once by a decent regular player, not quite a star, in 1987: this guy was well-known for driving in a lot of runs without much power


Tommie Herr?
   9. BDC Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:23 AM (#5672562)
Gehrig, Slaughter, AROD, and Herr are all correct.
   10. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:24 AM (#5672563)
EDIT: Dammit, I need to read the full post before commenting.
   11. RJ in TO Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:27 AM (#5672567)
Is Bob Elliott the final one?
   12. BDC Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:32 AM (#5672571)
Yes, Bob Elliott went 4302 against the Phillies on the Fourth of July, 1947.
   13. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:34 AM (#5672573)
4 3 0 2 : a star player did this in 1947; he won one MVP award but is not a HOFer. His day consisted of two RBI forceouts after which he came around to score; a walk and score; a GDP; and a 13 groundout. That was good for an -0.6 RE24 according to B-Ref, which I imagine is hard to achieve if you score three runs and drive in two


Bob Elliott?
   14. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:37 AM (#5672574)
Hey, is it maybe Bob Elliott?
   15. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:43 AM (#5672576)
Yikes. Refresh man, refresh!
   16. Batman Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:49 AM (#5672580)
Is it Ray Goulding?
   17. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 15, 2018 at 10:52 AM (#5672585)
Nah, I'm gonna stick with Bob Elliott.
   18. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: May 15, 2018 at 01:13 PM (#5672688)
100 years ago today, former St. Louis Browns manager Patsy Tebeau committed suicide.

Actual headline in a St. Louis newspaper: "Patsy Tebeau Acts as His Own Umpire"
   19. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: May 15, 2018 at 01:32 PM (#5672698)
Cano is being suspended for PEDs. Wow.
   20. Brian Posted: May 15, 2018 at 01:35 PM (#5672702)
From Rotoworld:

Blue Jays 3B prospect Vladimir Guerrero went 3-for-5 with a homer on Monday for Double-A New Hampshire.
This is getting ridiculous. Guerrero's homer was the sixth of the season, and his 20th extra-base hit in 33 games for the Fisher Cats. His average is now up to .405 on the season, and we're talking about 126 at-bats now, the sample size is not small. Guerrero is the best prospects in the minor leagues right now, and it's not even remotely close. May 15 - 1:05 PM

How long before the Jays move him up to AAA? They're afraid he'll go berserk there and force their hand.
   21. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: May 15, 2018 at 01:38 PM (#5672706)
Cano is being suspended for PEDs.

Wow, perfect timing!
   22. Nasty Nate Posted: May 15, 2018 at 01:42 PM (#5672710)
From Rotoworld:

Blue Jays 3B prospect Vladimir Guerrero went 3-for-5 with a homer on Monday for Double-A New Hampshire.
This is getting ridiculous. Guerrero's homer was the sixth of the season, and his 20th extra-base hit in 33 games for the Fisher Cats. His average is now up to .405 on the season, and we're talking about 126 at-bats now, the sample size is not small. Guerrero is the best prospects in the minor leagues right now, and it's not even remotely close. May 15 - 1:05 PM

How long before the Jays move him up to AAA? They're afraid he'll go berserk there and force their hand.
Craig Biggio's son is his teammate and also tearing it up so far.
   23. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 15, 2018 at 01:44 PM (#5672711)
How long before the Jays move him up to AAA? They're afraid he'll go berserk there and force their hand.
How's his defense?
   24. Brian Posted: May 15, 2018 at 01:47 PM (#5672713)
Probably not as good as Kris Bryant's after his 2 week tutorial but with a 1.119 OPS ...
   25. JJ1986 Posted: May 15, 2018 at 01:48 PM (#5672714)
Cano is being suspended for PEDs.
Is this real?
   26. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: May 15, 2018 at 01:51 PM (#5672717)
Nothing on MLB.com
   27. Brian Posted: May 15, 2018 at 01:55 PM (#5672719)
Craig Biggio's son is his teammate and also tearing it up so far.


Don't forget Bo Bichette.
   28. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: May 15, 2018 at 01:55 PM (#5672721)
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 13s14 seconds ago

Source confirms: #Mariners’ Cano will be suspended 80 games for violating baseball’s joint drug agreement.
   29. Eddo Posted: May 15, 2018 at 01:56 PM (#5672722)
I was looking at triples leaders and stumbled across this:

Counting the AL and NL separately, since 1980, have there been more instances where the league leader in triples has 20 or more or less than 10 (e.g. in single digits)?
   30. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 15, 2018 at 01:57 PM (#5672723)
Robinson Cano...Cano...Ca no Hall of Fame for that guy, anyway.
   31. Batman Posted: May 15, 2018 at 02:03 PM (#5672728)
Don't worry. The M's have... Gordon Beckham.

Can Ichiro learn to play second if he wanted to?
   32. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: May 15, 2018 at 02:29 PM (#5672758)
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   33. Nasty Nate Posted: May 15, 2018 at 02:33 PM (#5672764)
Counting the AL and NL separately, since 1980, have there been more instances where the league leader in triples has 20 or more or less than 10 (e.g. in single digits)?
I'll guess less than 10 because there were some strike years over that span. And I remember Rollins and Granderson, but others with 20+ don't come to mind.
   34. SoSH U at work Posted: May 15, 2018 at 03:49 PM (#5672864)
I remember Rollins and Granderson, but others with 20+ don't come to mind.


Lance Johnson did it once.
   35. Eddo Posted: May 15, 2018 at 05:19 PM (#5672953)
Rollins and Granderson did it in the same year (2007), which counts as two because of how I've set up the question. Lance Johnson did it in 1996. There are two other 20+ years: Willie Wilson in 1985 and Cristian Guzman in 2000.

But only four times since 1980 has a league failed to produce a double-digit tripler: the AL in 1981 and 2016 (leaders were John Castino and Adam Eaton, both with 9) and the NL in 1994 and 1995 (Brett Butler/Darren Lewis and Brett Butler/Eric Young tied with 9 in those two years).

So the answer, surprising me, was 20+.

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