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Wednesday, May 16, 2018

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 5-16-2018

Lake County [Indiana] Times, May 16, 1918:

There was nothing startling in the announcement from Boston that several offers of very high figures had been made to Harry Frazee for services of George Ruth, elephantine southpaw of the Red Sox. In fact, the announcement that Frazee had been offered $100,000 for his star port flinger caused little astonishment in the inner circles of baseball.

As baseball values have come to be known of late the price offered for the big flinger is low indeed, for it is extremely doubtful if there is a player in baseball so valuable [as Ruth].

$100,000 was extremely low, but that’s what Frazee got for Ruth after the 1919 season. (Well, that and a $300,000 loan secured with the mortgage on Fenway Park.)

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 10:26 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: May 16, 2018 at 10:31 AM (#5673344)
Not much offense to work with on today's Birthday Team, but plenty of starting pitching for Billy Martin to run into the ground.

C: Rube Walker (-0.88 WAR)
1B: Dave Philley (7.4 WAR)
2B: Eugenio Velez (-1.55 WAR)
3B: Ivanon Coffie (-0.19 WAR)
SS/Manager: Billy Martin (2.94 WAR)
LF: Mark Funderburk (-0.35 WAR)
CF: Mitch Webster (14.36 WAR)
RF: George Barclay (-3.4 WAR)

SP: Rick Reuschel (69.67 WAR)
SP: Jack Morris (43.87 WAR)
SP: Rick Rhoden (35.42 WAR)
SP: Watty Clark (26.75 WAR)
SP: Bob Bruce (11.8 WAR)
RP: Doug Brocail (10.53 WAR)

Awful pitcher/Hardee's shooting victim: Nick Bierbrodt (-1.03 WAR)
Fun names: Tack Wilson, Colonel Snover
Umpire: Cy Rigler
   2. Nasty Nate Posted: May 16, 2018 at 10:33 AM (#5673348)
3B: Ivanon Coffie
I want another coffee too, but spare me the funny accent.
   3. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 16, 2018 at 10:53 AM (#5673365)
As baseball values have come to be known of late the price offered for the big flinger is low indeed, for it is extremely doubtful if there is a player in baseball so valuable [as Ruth].
In fairness, Ruth only achieved his full value when they moved him off of flinger.
   4. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 16, 2018 at 10:54 AM (#5673368)
Wow, when I first started collecting baseball cards Rick Reuschel and Rick Rhoden were the Pirates' two decent SPs, and not knowing anything about Reuschel's back story, I had a hard time keeping them straight. They'll always be linked in my mind - to see that they have the same birthday is funny.
   5. BDC Posted: May 16, 2018 at 11:00 AM (#5673373)
Box-score-line records, most times (since 1908, regular-season) with the exact ab/r/h/bi line. Trivia in bold:

4 0 1 0 : Pete Rose leads this category with 317, but who is next at 296? He's a Hall of Famer not in Cooperstown primarily because of his bat

4 1 1 0 : Pete Rose leads this category with 207, but who is next at 159? He's a Hall of Famer not in Cooperstown primarily because of his bat or his glove

4 2 1 0 : Rickey Henderson, 34

4 3 1 0 : seven players have done this three times each, most recently Ray Durham

4 4 1 0 : 14 players have done this once, most recently Gregor Blanco in 2013
   6. Batman Posted: May 16, 2018 at 11:02 AM (#5673378)
Rick Reuschel, the elephantine righty.
   7. Nasty Nate Posted: May 16, 2018 at 11:02 AM (#5673379)
4 1 1 0 : Pete Rose leads this category with 207, but who is next at 159? He's a Hall of Famer not in Cooperstown primarily because of his bat or his glove
Lou Brock
   8. Batman Posted: May 16, 2018 at 11:03 AM (#5673381)
4 0 1 0 : Pete Rose leads this category with 317, but who is next at 296? He's a Hall of Famer not in Cooperstown primarily because of his bat

4 1 1 0 : Pete Rose leads this category with 207, but who is next at 159? He's a Hall of Famer not in Cooperstown primarily because of his bat or his glove
Brooks Robinson and Lou Brock?
   9. mathesond Posted: May 16, 2018 at 11:04 AM (#5673382)
4 0 1 0 - Ozzie Smith? Or maybe Bill Mazeroski?
   10. CheersUnusualPlays Posted: May 16, 2018 at 11:05 AM (#5673383)
3B: Ivanon Covfefe
   11. BDC Posted: May 16, 2018 at 11:20 AM (#5673399)
Robinson and Brock are correct!
   12. Batman Posted: May 16, 2018 at 11:24 AM (#5673401)
Pete Rose has the third-most 4 2 1 0 games and he's one of the seven with three 4 3 1 0 games. Rose had 712 1-for-4's, eleven more than Hank Aaron. Adrian Beltre is 6th, with 618 of them.
   13. vortex of dissipation Posted: May 16, 2018 at 12:56 PM (#5673477)
There was nothing startling in the announcement from Boston that several offers of very high figures had been made to Harry Frazee for services of George Ruth, elephantine southpaw of the Red Sox. In fact, the announcement that Frazee had been offered $100,000 for his star port flinger caused little astonishment in the inner circles of baseball.
As baseball values have come to be known of late the price offered for the big flinger is low indeed, for it is extremely doubtful if there is a player in baseball so valuable [as Ruth].


How common is it to see an article from that time period that just uses Ruth's given name, and doesn't call him "Babe" anywhere in either the headline or story?
   14. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: May 16, 2018 at 01:12 PM (#5673494)
Wow, when I first started collecting baseball cards Rick Reuschel and Rick Rhoden were the Pirates' two decent SPs, and not knowing anything about Reuschel's back story, I had a hard time keeping them straight.


When I started collecting cards a huge number of them were Rick Rhoden, so I know him very well. Also Brook Jacoby, Dennis Martinez, and the Lloyds McClendon and Moseby.

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