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Tuesday, May 27, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 5-27-2014

Calumet (Michigan) News, May 27, 1914:

Walter Johnson, star pitcher of the American league, talked for an hour on Sunday with Joe Tinker, manager of the Chicago Feds. Although nothing definite was done, the great pitcher departed in a receptive mood. No offer was made because Johnson declared he was not open for an offer at the present time.

“I wouldn’t sign a contract now with any ball club, not even with Washington, but I’ll say that the Federal league looks as good to me as any other league, and later on I’ll be ready to talk business for next year.”
...
“I don’t know where Walter will pitch next year,” said Tinker, “but I’ll be he’ll get a lot of money. If he is not with the Federal league it will be because some club in organized ball will pay a record salary.”

Johnson got a 25% raise to stay with Washington for the 1915 season, but it wasn’t a record salary. Johnson earned $12,500 in 1915, but Ty Cobb took home a cool $20,000.

Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: May 27, 2014 at 08:09 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: May 27, 2014 at 08:23 AM (#4713790)
If the Birthday League used the DH, the logjam at first base wouldn't be a problem. Thing is, I hate the DH and I'm the one making the rosters.

So good luck with that, Pinky. Have fun explaining to Frank why he's on the bench.

C: Frank Snyder
1B: Jeff Bagwell
2B: Jerry Kindall
3B/Manager: Pinky Higgins
SS: Mike Caruso
LF: Todd Hundley
CF: Terry Moore
RF: Jacob Brumfield

SP: Gary Nolan
SP: Ed Crane
SP: Ross Baumgarten
SP: Miguel Gonzalez
SP: Garrett Richards
RP: Ed Nunez

Big Hurt: Frank Thomas
Third 1B, would start on many Birthday Teams: John Jaha
Fun Name: Brad Boxberger
   2. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: May 27, 2014 at 08:33 AM (#4713793)
terry moore was one h8lluva centerfielder.

that is all
   3. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: May 27, 2014 at 08:35 AM (#4713795)
john jaha had a terrible framework. he was muscular guy but things were knitted together poorly. he could pop something seemingly at any moment.

but when healthy the guy could hit. but the vast majority of the time his body would let him down
   4. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 27, 2014 at 08:55 AM (#4713802)
John Jaha was probably the earliest baseball player that I remember that I evaluated for my fantasy league (Scoresheet) without using the traditional AVG/HR/RBI framework.

Also, when did BBRef start adding "stars" (regular season) and "rings" (post-season) to the player pages?
I can now go to Derek Jeter's page and literally count da ringz (in the post-season stats section).
   5. PeteF3 Posted: May 27, 2014 at 10:05 AM (#4713822)
Bagwell has at least 1 game played in RF. You could put him there, move Brumfield to LF, and put Thomas at 1B. It couldn't possibly be a worse defensive option than Todd Hundley as an outfielder.
   6. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: May 27, 2014 at 10:10 AM (#4713827)
I agree. And actually, Bagwell at 3B is a realistic option too, as that's where he spent virtually his entire MiLB career.

It just seemed like cheating, though - Bagwell played RF once because they needed someone to stand out there, and Hundley played LF dozens of times because...Bobby Valentine was off his meds, I guess. But that was a thing that was done with some regularity, regardless of how hilariously awful an idea it was.
   7. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 27, 2014 at 01:55 PM (#4714007)
Jerry Remy's kid sentenced to life in prison for murder.
   8. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: May 27, 2014 at 05:08 PM (#4714142)
Games of various Days:

5/23/84, a vastly better-pitched rematch of a Game of the Day from less than a week earlier. Both starters dealt with the various Hall of Fame and Hall of Merit members in the lineups, but were victimized by about the least-likely hitters imaginable.

5/24/84, a quality game featuring a pitching matchup that would be pretty unfamiliar to a lot of present-day fans (including me), but at the specific time at which it occurred, was really good.

5/25/84, the opposite of the game from the previous day, in that the pitchers were both pretty decent, but NOT in 1984. One of the starters was pulled too soon, and the other too late, so it was a second-guesser's dream.

And finally, the recently-completed weekend in 2014, piled into one post because I was out of town.
   9. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: May 27, 2014 at 06:37 PM (#4714182)
The Game of 5/26/84 was a fun one. For starters, three different pitchers had hits. (P-I request - can anyone tell when that last happened?) And yet, the three hitting pitchers were not the most interesting group of batters in the game, as one of the teams sent a run of three pinch hitters to the plate in a game-winning ninth-inning rally that I'm not sure I'll ever see matched outside an All-Star game.
   10. AndrewJ Posted: May 27, 2014 at 06:44 PM (#4714185)
Jerry Remy's kid sentenced to life in prison for murder.

Told the court he should be blamed, not his family -- and then thoughtfully added that his girlfriend and mother of his child was wielding a knife, after all.
   11. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: May 27, 2014 at 08:01 PM (#4714216)
The Game of 5/26/14 included career days by a fairly young player on each team, plus remarkable amounts of drama in each of the last two innings.
   12. Danny Posted: May 27, 2014 at 08:18 PM (#4714221)
For starters, three different pitchers had hits. (P-I request - can anyone tell when that last happened?)

Last time 3 pitchers had hits in a game: June 22, 2012 (including the only career hits for Brad Ziegler and David Hernandez)

Last time 4 pitchers had hits in a game: April 17, 2002 (including 3 Expos relievers after Tomo Ohka was pulled after allowing the first 6 Cubs to reach base)

Last time 5 pitchers had hits in a game: October 6, 1929 (all 5 pitchers who pitched)

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