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Thursday, June 12, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 6-12-2014

Pittsburgh Press, June 12, 1914:

One of the softest pitching jobs is that possessed by Roy Patterson, former “boy wonder” of the White Sox. He has been with the Minneapolis Millers for years, and one of the clauses in his contract is that he can leave the club the evening after he pitches, and doesn’t have to return until the fourth day, when he is supposed to pitch again.

Roy lives at Thief River Falls, near Minneapolis, and it takes him only an hour to get home. He spends those idle days in fishing and attending to his banking interests.

Jack Morris nods in agreement.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 12, 2014 at 10:01 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dugout, history, roy patterson

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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 12, 2014 at 10:05 AM (#4723900)
This is not a good Birthday Team, and the defense isn't going to do anybody any favors.

C/Manager: Red Dooin
1B: Ryan Klesko
2B: Otto Knabe
3B: Jack O'Brien
SS: Mets Keith Miller
LF: Joe Hornung
CF: Hideki Matsui
RF: Matty McIntyre

SP: Kyle McClellan
SP: Gerry Arrigo
SP: Scott Aldred
SP/Great Nickname: Darrel Akerfelds
SP: Lou Schettler
RP: Jim Strickland

Umpire: Dutch Rennert
Negro Leagues Greats: Sol White, Willie Foster
Not that one: James Moyer
Giggity: Dong Wang
   2. Batman Posted: June 12, 2014 at 11:26 AM (#4723954)
Thief River must have stolen the falls and moved them over the last 100 years. It's almost 300 miles from Minneapolis now.

That "Great Nickname" article talks about how young the Giants infield was in 1986. They all went on to have nice careers, but two of them are already dead.
   3. Moeball Posted: June 12, 2014 at 11:34 AM (#4723963)
Where's Dock Ellis on acid? I believe this is his day - this was the day in 1970 when he pitched his no-hitter. Apparently the mound wasn't the only thing that was high that day?
   4. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: June 12, 2014 at 12:23 PM (#4724018)
Have there been any articles or discussions about teams using the closer-by-committee model this year? At various points this year, I have read reports that the A's, Indians, and Rays were using it. It seems to pass as a guy establishes himself in the classic closer role. Any sense that more teams doing this will lead to a relief ace model and devaluation of the save and closers?
   5. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 12, 2014 at 12:33 PM (#4724028)
I haven't seen anything specifically addressing that.

I know that for the Indians, closer-by-committee wasn't at all the plan heading into the season, but John Axford had an awful couple of weeks and they couldn't keep rolling him out there to get blown up.

It looks to me like if Francona is going closer-by-committee, it's in name only. Cody Allen's gotten all but one of Cleveland's saves since the second week of May.
   6. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: June 12, 2014 at 05:11 PM (#4724398)
The Game of 6/11/84 was a solidly above-average start for both pitchers - but the disparity between the two pitchers was such that above average for both meant that one of them was pulled from the game before the other gave up a run. Despite that, the worse pitcher's team managed to tie it in the ninth and win 5 innings later.

A related P-I request, if this is a P-I searchable thing: What is the most hits a team has ever had in a game without any of its players having more than one? The game linked above had 7 for one of its teams, and I expect this has been beaten, but I'd be curious to know by how much.
   7. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: June 12, 2014 at 07:14 PM (#4724539)
The Game of 6/11/14 was an excellent pitcher's duel. It was ended by a player who was once a well-regarded prospect who has massively disappointed, but may be developing an incredibly specific and slightly useful specialty.
   8. Gch exhales the vast drunken folly of Epicurus Posted: June 12, 2014 at 08:12 PM (#4724568)
Negro Leagues Greats: Willie Foster


Do Rube and Big Bill have a case for being the most talented brothers in baseball history?
   9. Chris Fluit Posted: June 12, 2014 at 11:03 PM (#4724629)

Do Rube and Big Bill have a case for being the most talented brothers in baseball history?



Yes. The only real competition is Joe and Dom DiMaggio, but I'd go with the Foster brothers (Two Hall of Famers vs. one Hall of Famer and one Hall of Very Good player).
   10. bobm Posted: June 12, 2014 at 11:22 PM (#4724639)
[6] Here's one from last year with 10:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYN/NYN201304280.shtml
   11. bobm Posted: June 12, 2014 at 11:49 PM (#4724648)
[6] 4 games had a team with 12 batters with exactly 1 hit; 2 of those games had a team with no batter having more than 1 hit.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYN/NYN197709182.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA197009072.shtml

From 1914 to 2014, (requiring H=1), sorted by greatest number of players matching selected criteria for a Team in a Single Game
   12. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: June 13, 2014 at 12:03 AM (#4724653)
Thanks! The Mets' game from '77 is the best of those, since 12 of the 13 Mets who played in the game had exactly 1 hit, including both pitchers and a guy who came in as a pinch runner for a pinch hitter. The only one who was hitless was, of course, Doug Flynn.

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