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Thursday, June 13, 2019

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 6-13-2019

Pittsburgh Gazette-Times, June 13, 1919:

Manager Hugo Bezdek received a telegram from the National League officies just before the game began yesterday instructing him that he had been suspended indefinitely for his actions toward Umpire Charles Rigler on the previous day.
...
Officials of the Pittsburgh club stated last night that they thought Bezdek was the victim of rather severe treatment. Hugo is a man who refrains from the use of profanity, and they seemed to be at a loss to know why he should draw this punishment.
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[Rigler:] “I want it understood that I like a fighting ballplayer and one who can make it kick without trying to make the umpire look as if he didn’t know his business. Bezdek did not swear when he addressed me on the decision, but he said enough for me to eject him. Then after he left the field he remained under the grandstand for four innings yelling taunting things at me…Today I was surprised to hear Bezdek yelling at me from a box seat.

Hugo obviously didn’t have a disguise.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 13, 2019 at 09:46 AM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 13, 2019 at 09:53 AM (#5851345)
Not a good Birthday Team today. Only two position players in the starting lineup with 4+ career WAR, and Lucroy loses a ton of his value when you move him out from behind the plate.

C: Ernie Whitt (18.3 WAR)
1B: Jonathan Lucroy (18.3 WAR)
2B: Hal Luby (0.9 WAR)
3B: 1952 White Sox Hector Rodriguez (1.0 WAR)
SS: Henry Baldwin (0.0 WAR)
LF: Bobby Clark (-1.1 WAR)
CF: Charlie Malay (-0.4 WAR)
RF: Marty Kavanagh (3.5 WAR)

SP: Mel Parnell (27.24 WAR)
SP: Drew Smyly (9.0 WAR)
SP: Fred Klobedanz (6.1 WAR)
SP: Darrell May (5.7 WAR)
SP: Emilio Palmero (-0.9 WAR)
RP: Pedro Strop (9.3 WAR)

-6.8 career WAR: Bill Bergen (-6.8 WAR)
Manager: Jim Mutrie
Not that one: Jason Thompson, Billy Williams
Pitching coach: Marcel Lachemann
Play-by-play: Tom Cheek
   2. Sweatpants Posted: June 13, 2019 at 10:17 AM (#5851360)
SP: Fred Klobedanz (6.1 WAR)
Yeah, it's not a good sign when a member of the all-time full-career Braves team is in your starting rotation. Rick Camp and Bill James might be starters on their birthday teams, although Camp could be the reliever and James could just as easily be a Not that one (or that one).
   3. Itchy Row Posted: June 13, 2019 at 10:19 AM (#5851362)
It's James McCann's birthday too. He would have the third-highest WAR in the lineup, but he's never played anywhere but catcher. 19th Century manager Mutrie might start Bergen over Whitt, Lucroy, and McCann.
   4. Davo (Love Won The Battle Of Stalingrad) Posted: June 13, 2019 at 10:26 AM (#5851365)
   5. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: June 13, 2019 at 10:36 AM (#5851369)
I hadn't noticed that McCann switched teams this year and morphed into Pudge Rodriguez. He's got a 132 OPS+ this season after a 76 in five years in Detroit. War of 2.0 so far this year, compared to 2.8 total for the Tigers. Good for him.
   6. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: June 13, 2019 at 11:58 AM (#5851411)
I hadn't noticed that McCann switched teams this year and morphed into Pudge Rodriguez. He's got a 132 OPS+ this season after a 76 in five years in Detroit. War of 2.0 so far this year, compared to 2.8 total for the Tigers. Good for him.


I am not following this. Brian McCann? He has never played for Detroit, nor does he have 2 WAR this year

edit, nevermind, not Brian McCann... James McCann
   7. Davo (Love Won The Battle Of Stalingrad) Posted: June 13, 2019 at 12:00 PM (#5851413)
James McCann. I traded for him in our Offseason Simulation and so have been very pleased with this development!
   8. vortex of dissipation Posted: June 13, 2019 at 01:41 PM (#5851458)
Hugo Bezdek is interesting in that he's far better known as a football coach than a baseball manager - in fact he's in the College Football Hall of Fame as a coach. At the time he was hired to manage the Pirates, he had no playing, coaching, or managing experience in professional baseball - he had scouted for the Pirates, but that was it. He didn't give up his football coaching career while he managed the Pirates - he was coaching football at Penn State at the same time he was managing the Pirates.
   9. Davo (Love Won The Battle Of Stalingrad) Posted: June 13, 2019 at 01:44 PM (#5851461)
MID JUNE EDITION: DO YOU KNOW 2019 BASEBALL?

Each of these players currently leads his team in either homers or wins. CAN YOU IDENTIFY WHICH TEAM EACH PLAYER IS ON?

1. Franmil Reyes
2. Merrill Kelly
3. JaCoby Jones
4. John Gant
5. Mark Melancon
6. Eric Lauer
7. Marcus Walden
8. Renato Nunez
9. Ty Buttrey
10. Pablo Lopez
11. Sam Gaviglio
12. Homer Bailey
   10. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: June 13, 2019 at 01:51 PM (#5851467)
[9] Wow. In one of the topics yesterday, I said I've hardly watched any live baseball this season choosing instead to watch more hockey than I have in many years and now that the NHL season is over, I'm not sure just how much baseball I really want to watch. But still..... geez..... let me see....

1) SD
3) DET?
5) Last I remember, he was with SF.
9) I know this is LAA because I caught a little of the LAA/LAD game on MLB Network a few days ago. It's certainly a name you remember.
12) SEA? Or is that Mike Leake who went CIN -> SEA? Or both?

The rest to me may as well be made-up names from OOTP.
   11. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: June 13, 2019 at 01:56 PM (#5851472)
4 is STL (eek, or ATL? let's go with STL)
7 is BOS?
12 is KC

Bailey was traded to the Dodgers and promptly released. Subsequently signed by KC.
   12. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: June 13, 2019 at 01:57 PM (#5851474)
And I'm 51% sure that 11 is OAK
   13. Davo (Love Won The Battle Of Stalingrad) Posted: June 13, 2019 at 02:03 PM (#5851475)
10- If it makes you feel better, I picked the 12 most obscure names on the list!
   14. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 13, 2019 at 02:03 PM (#5851476)
#2 is AZ, which I only know because he pitched 23/27 of a 3 hit shutout against the Phils last night.
   15. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 13, 2019 at 02:08 PM (#5851478)
1. Franmil Reyes - SD
2. Merrill Kelly - AZ
3. JaCoby Jones - DET
4. John Gant - STL
5. Mark Melancon - SF
6. Eric Lauer - SD
7. Marcus Walden - BOS
8. Renato Nunez - BAL
9. Ty Buttrey - LAA
10. Pablo Lopez - MIA
11. Sam Gaviglio - TOR
12. Homer Bailey - KC

How'd I do?
   16. Itchy Row Posted: June 13, 2019 at 02:13 PM (#5851482)
CAN YOU IDENTIFY WHICH TEAM EACH PLAYER IS ON?
No, I cannot.

I know I got that question right.
   17. Davo (Love Won The Battle Of Stalingrad) Posted: June 13, 2019 at 02:16 PM (#5851483)
15: Nailed it!

(And saved me the trouble!)
   18. PreservedFish Posted: June 13, 2019 at 02:21 PM (#5851486)
How'd I do?


Wow. Explain. Are you in the deepest fantasy league in history?
   19. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 13, 2019 at 02:52 PM (#5851506)
Are you in the deepest fantasy league in history?
Heh. Why yes, yes I am. I joined a fantasy league for the first time in, I dunno, 12? years this season when one of my colleagues had an owner quit. It's a long-running deep keeper league with minors, salary cap, Rule V draft, the works. Of course having been away so long I had to do quite a bit of research to get up to speed, but the good thing about my brain is that it absorbs useless details such as the above quickly and pretty much permanently. I can do weird stuff like go through a stack of 1988 baseball cards and, covering up the player name, identify them with about 95% accuracy.

The bad thing about my brain is that apparently that trick only applies to useless information.
   20. The Mighty Quintana Posted: June 13, 2019 at 03:10 PM (#5851512)
Franmil Reyes is fun to watch, if you like two true outcome types - he has a TON of power. Saw him on TV last night, I think they better put some nets up at Petco.
   21. Mike Webber Posted: June 13, 2019 at 03:12 PM (#5851513)
I got 10 of 12, missing Gant and Walden. I put Gant in Atlanta, because my brain saw Gant, thought Ron Gant so it must be ATL. I'm in 2 fantasy leagues, so there you go.
   22. PreservedFish Posted: June 13, 2019 at 03:19 PM (#5851517)
I knew only four of them cold. I've never heard of Merrill Kelly or Marcus Walden. Renato Nunez and Sam Gaviglio only ring the faintest of bells.
   23. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: June 13, 2019 at 03:19 PM (#5851518)
I knew the two on the Padres, Pablo Lopez, JaCoby Jones (although I didn't know the capital C), Renato Nunez, and Mark Melancon.

Mark Melancon leads the Giants in wins? Oh, it's a 5-way tie. One of the others is someone named "Reyes Moronta", isn't he less famous?

Sad that Caleb Smith isn't the Marlins leader in wins anymore. He was 3-0. Now he's 3-4. And injured.

Marlins update: They used to only have one player hitting well, Neil Walker. Now they still have only one player hitting well, but it's new RF/1B Garrett Cooper (Walker is injured).
   24. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: June 13, 2019 at 03:24 PM (#5851519)
Franmil Reyes is fun to watch, if you like two true outcome types

The entire Padres are fun to watch if you like two true outcome types. Meaning they are not fun to watch. But Franmil Reyes is.

Rank in the NL of the Padres offense:
H: 14th
2B: 15th
3B: 14th
BB: 13th
HBP: 13th
R: 13th

BA: 14th
OBP: 14th
SLG: 11th

GDP: 3rd
HR: 6th
K: 1st
   25. PreservedFish Posted: June 13, 2019 at 03:35 PM (#5851522)
GDP's are fun to watch, at least. Impressive that they hit so many double plays given that they apparently never have men on base, and never put the ball in play.
   26. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: June 13, 2019 at 03:47 PM (#5851529)
Also, Marlins lead the league in GDP and are 13th in OBP.

League leaders in GIDP: (always a category with some surprising names)

1. Castro • MIA 13
2. Ozuna • STL 11
3. Machado • SDP 10 <---the new Miguel Tejada
4. Molina • STL 9
Franco • PHI 9
Rojas • MIA 9
7. Heyward • CHC 8
Turner • LAD 8
Moustakas • MIL 8
Rosario • NYM 8
Winker • CIN 8
Donaldson • ATL 8
Aguilar • MIL 8
Myers • SDP 8
Ramos • NYM 8
   27. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: June 13, 2019 at 04:36 PM (#5851542)
The Padres are my favorite team of the future. They've got Machado, Reyes, Paddack, and Tatis Jr, with Mejia, Urias, and Gore on the way. Not all of those guys are going to be stars, but that's a heck of a start, and they're under control basically forever.
   28. KB JBAR (trhn) Posted: June 13, 2019 at 07:00 PM (#5851594)
I knew all but Buttrey. Mostly by relating back to some fact that I've heard. Though doing fantasy helps.

1. Franmil Reyes - SD Enormous man with huge EVs. the Aaron Judge of ballplayers.
2. Merrill Kelly - AZ 30 year old rookie.
3. JaCoby Jones - DET Good WAR for terrible hitter last year
4. John Gant - STL Randian MR. Throws hard.
5. Mark Melancon - SF Still on that big contract.
6. Eric Lauer - SD Opening day starter.
7. Marcus Walden - BOS Six wins.
8. Renato Nunez - BAL Fantasy good, sub .300 OBP.
9. Ty Buttrey - LAA Did not know this one.
10. Pablo Lopez - MIA HUGE home road splits. Like, 1 ERA at home, 7 on the road.
11. Sam Gaviglio - TOR Italian sounding last name to go with Biagini
12. Homer Bailey - KC Still not good.
   29. Richard Posted: June 13, 2019 at 09:30 PM (#5851643)
Hugo Bezdek is interesting in that he's far better known as a football coach than a baseball manager - in fact he's in the College Football Hall of Fame as a coach. At the time he was hired to manage the Pirates, he had no playing, coaching, or managing experience in professional baseball - he had scouted for the Pirates, but that was it. He didn't give up his football coaching career while he managed the Pirates - he was coaching football at Penn State at the same time he was managing the Pirates.


Bill James reported in his baseball managers book that Casey Stengel, who was with the Pirates in 1918 and 1919, said that Bezdek didn't know anything about baseball, and didn't claim to, but was a good leader of men, and relied on some of his smarter or older players - most notably Bill McKechnie, who had played under John McGraw and Frank Chance, and players who had been there when Fred Clarke was managing - to tell him what other managers would have done in a particular situation. James's assessment was that he did about as well as expected with the talent at his disposal.

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