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Monday, June 16, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 6-16-2014

Pittsburgh Press, June 16, 1914:

Ray Chapman was to have cavorted in the shortfield in yesterday’s Washington-Nap game, but Dr. M.H. Castle, club physician, crossed Manager Birmingham at the last minute. He does not think Chappie will be ready for another week.

In the meantime Ray will spend most of his practice time running backwards. A half dozen players who dropped out of their team lineup because of fractured ankle bones got themselves back in trim by running backwards.

“A player favors an injured leg when he runs forward,” said Lee Fohl, Waterbury manager, who visited [Cleveland team] President Somers Sunday. “When he runs backward he must bear his full weight on the injured limb. It gets sore at first, but the player rapidly rounds into shape.”

Huh. That seems…odd.

Also, I find it interesting that Lee Fohl was visiting Charles Somers in June 1914. When Somers fired manager Joe Birmingham early in the 1915 season, the new Cleveland manager was none other than Lee Fohl. It makes me wonder how long that move was in the works.

The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:11 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: cavorting in the shortfield, dugout, history, ray chapman

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   1. The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: June 16, 2014 at 08:22 AM (#4727106)
Want to play every day for today's Birthday Team? It would help to have a five-letter first name.

Also, we've hit the Fun Names jackpot.

C: Eddie Malone
1B: Wally Joyner
2B: Pete Coscarart
3B: Kevin Young
SS: Chris Gomez
LF: Harry Blake
CF: Ron LeFlore
RF/Manager/Extra RP: Lon Knight

SP: Ken Johnson
SP: Kerry Wood
SP: Joe Saunders
SP: Max Surkont
SP: Al Mattern
RP: Jonathan Broxton

Owner: Dick Jacobs
Failed Prospect: Dewon Brazelton
Fun Names: Skeeter Scalzi, Kid Speer, Arquimedes Caminero, Wish Egan, Win Noyes, Marr Phillips
   2. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:14 AM (#4727123)
The Game of 6/13/84 featured really good performances from a bunch of pretty old guys - one in particular, who was riding the wave of a magnificent start to the season that was about to come to a screeching halt.

The Game of 6/14/84 gives me the idea to potentially pick a Game of the Day MVP at the end of the year, as it includes yet another huge hit from a guy who has had quite a few of them in the best games of various days so far this season. Also, it was 12-11 in 10 innings, so there's that.
   3. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: June 16, 2014 at 09:17 AM (#4727126)
The Game of 6/13/14 was very easily the best in the extremely young career of an uberprospect, including five hits and a homer in extra innings.

The Game of 6/14/14 included two excellent and almost exactly identical batting lines from consecutive hitters in the winning team's lineup - one from a future Hall of Famer and the other from someone who's as good a Cooperstown bet as anyone who hasn't yet met the playing time requirement.
   4. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: June 16, 2014 at 10:35 AM (#4727174)
The Game of 6/15/84 maxed out Leverage Index on its last play, which is always a good sign. That play also gave a player who would end up with a 16-year career the highest single-game WPA he would ever have, capping a game in which his team had put either the tying or winning run in scoring position in five consecutive innings.
   5. adenzeno Posted: June 16, 2014 at 10:55 AM (#4727194)
Running backwards is good for Hamstrings....
   6. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:14 AM (#4727212)
Terrible news just announced on the Dan Patrick show--Tony Gwynn has died. He had been diagnosed with cancer earlier this year.
   7. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM (#4727216)
I worried that something was up when they gave his top asst a fancy title and extension the other day; terrible news indeed.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:21 AM (#4727218)
Holy crap. Awful news.
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:25 AM (#4727227)
Some amazing stats about Tony Gwynn from Twitter:

Gwynn hit over .350 five times after the age of 33. Hit .372 at the age of 37 in 1997, and only struck out 28 times in 592 at-bats. Machine.

Gwynn played 20 seasons in the majors and never had an OPS+ below 100. Just incredible.

Nearly twice as many walks as strikeouts in his career. 127 OPS+ as a 41 year old.

His .338 career BA is the best by any player in the Expansion Era (since 1961).

543 career doubles, 434 career strikeouts

1165 players had 500 PA between 1982 and 2001. No one has a lower K% than Gwynn.

Tony Gwynn never struck out more than 40 times in a season. Ever.

It is such a fun B-R page to go through. Don't know you'll ever see the likes of him again.
   10. Born1951 Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:38 AM (#4727255)
According to Fangraphs, the Giants had a win probability of as high as 95.0% on Friday, 96.9% on Saturday, and 97.5% yesterday, yet lost all 3 games. I would love to see a stat like this in team game logs; highest chance of winning in a loss and lowest chance in a win. It would then be easy to find games your team should have won, and ones where it made an impressive comeback.
   11. just plain joe Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:49 AM (#4727280)
Some amazing stats about Tony Gwynn from Twitter:


Unless I'm mistaken, Tony Gwynn is still the all time assists leader at San Diego State. RIP.
   12. The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: June 16, 2014 at 11:53 AM (#4727287)
Indeed he is. He has something like 25% more career assists than anybody else in the history of the program.
   13. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: June 16, 2014 at 12:33 PM (#4727376)
The Game of 6/15/14 was a good one - extra innings after a late rally, plus one of the best games in the career of a guy who's been around for a while now, even if I'm not sure how.

Also, here are some good games from Gwynn's 1984 season, which is both the past year I'm writing up and the year of his first batting title. (Links will be B-R boxscores, not recaps.)

5/4/84
5/17/84
6/12/84
And, of particular note, 6/3/84, a game-winning single in the ninth.
   14. JJ1986 Posted: June 16, 2014 at 01:14 PM (#4727457)
Giants sign Cuban Daniel Carbonell.

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