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Wednesday, June 18, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 6-18-2014

Pittsburgh Press, June 18, 1914:

...George Sisler, southpaw pitcher of the University of Michigan team, who in 1912 signed a Pittsburg [sic] contract, will never be able to pitch another game of ball. Sisler has thrown his arm out for Michigan, and is unable at present to even hurl the horsehide 50 feet.
...
Next year Sisler will try to play in the outfield for Michigan, but it is doubtful whether his arm will stand the strain of the long heaving. The probabilities are that he never will report to the Pirates.

If only there was a position he could play that didn’t require him to throw the ball. Dang.

Anyway, Sisler never did report to the Pirates, but that’s because he signed at age 17 and the contract was invalid. As you all know, he signed with the Browns, played first base, hit .400 twice, and set the (since broken) all-time record for hits in a single season.

Oh, and the part about never being able to pitch again? Not true. Sisler pitched 18 times (11 starts) for the ‘15-‘16 Browns, putting up a 2.32 ERA (122 ERA+) in 97 innings.

Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: June 18, 2014 at 08:14 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: June 18, 2014 at 08:22 AM (#4729060)
Not a great pitching staff on today's Birthday Team. Moore is pretty good, and then there's just nothing until you get to Cishek.

C: Sandy Alomar Jr.
1B: Andres Galarraga
2B: Jimmy Pofahl
3B: Jim Tipper
SS: Marty Berghammer
LF: Lou Brock
CF: Chris Coghlan
RF: Charlie Ganzel

SP: Matt Moore
SP: Taylor Phillips
SP: Varney Anderson
SP: Jeremy Powell
SP: Paul Brown
RP: Steve Cishek
RP: Felix Heredia

Play By Play: Russ Hodges
Failed Phenom: Ron Necciai
   2. Rennie's Tenet Posted: June 18, 2014 at 08:32 AM (#4729065)
Birthday starter Jeremy Powell had a career in Japan, then came back and served as the spot starter for Indianapolis for a couple of years when he was in his mid-thirties. He was fun to watch at that point, as he had lost pretty much everything except the willingness to throw any pitch in any situation. He was a good candidate to throw an eephus, but I don't think it happened.

With the draft over and now well into the signing season, I'm looking forward to the term "hit tool"'s fade into the background again. Right up there with "missing bats" and "plated."
   3. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 18, 2014 at 08:42 AM (#4729071)
As a guy who had (still has) at least a couple of Taylor Phillips baseball cards, if he's your #2 starter, you have some serious pitching woes. It's funny how I can still remember the sucky players from 50-55 years ago because I had looked at their card so many times.
   4. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: June 18, 2014 at 09:30 AM (#4729110)
anyone else catch the ridiculous arizona diamondbacks approach last night?

7th inning. d'backs lead 4-3. one out. relief pitcher gives up a single and then a double so there are runners on second/third with one out in a one run game and braun is up

now, previously in the game kyle lohse hit two d'back players. lohse was struggling with his control all night and neither could have been construed as intentional.

anyway, the first pitch to braun was behind him. the next one nailed him

the pitcher was tossed and on his way down the dugout steps the manager fist bumped him.

it was obvious that this was planned

the d'backs LOADED the bases in a one run game to make some macho point

next batter was jonathan lucroy. you know the guy who is hitting out of his mind so far in 2014. he hits a grand slam. a LONG blast to center

brewers end up winning 7-5

kirk gibson was a great player

kirk gibson is a terrible manager
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 18, 2014 at 09:36 AM (#4729115)
it was obvious that this was planned

the d'backs LOADED the bases in a one run game to make some macho point


I'd assume they wanted to load the bases anyway (set up the DP and force at any base), and took the Derysdale approach of "why waste three pitches".
   6. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: June 18, 2014 at 09:47 AM (#4729124)
snapper

who in their right mind loads the bases to a guy hitting .340 and absolutely KILLING the ball in june?
   7. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 18, 2014 at 09:53 AM (#4729132)
who in their right mind loads the bases to a guy hitting .340 and absolutely KILLING the ball in june?

Well, it's not like Braun is chopped liver.

If you feel preventing the tying run is imperative (probably a bad decision) then you load the bases, and take your chances.
   8. Batman Posted: June 18, 2014 at 10:02 AM (#4729139)
You couldn't quite put together a deathday team for today, but it would include Larry Doby, Hal Trosky, and Johnny Frederick, plus both Eddie Gaedel and Charlie Faust.
   9. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: June 18, 2014 at 10:09 AM (#4729146)
snapper

braun has been struggling with his thumb and ribs the last sevearl weeks. he's been pretty puny at the plate. i know it's all hip to not consider hot streaks or slumps as significant but anyone watching the brewers for more than 2 minutes could tell braun is not himself and lucroy is hitting out of his mind.

that seems like a whackadoodle trade off to me
   10. Steve N Posted: June 18, 2014 at 10:45 AM (#4729178)
Rennie mentions not hearing about hit tools for a while. 'Tools' is a word that when used about a major leaguer usually means he is doing poorly. If a player is doing well folks talk about performance. Hearing about a major leaguers tools is usually mucho back news for that player.
   11. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 18, 2014 at 11:11 AM (#4729212)
snapper

braun has been struggling with his thumb and ribs the last sevearl weeks. he's been pretty puny at the plate. i know it's all hip to not consider hot streaks or slumps as significant but anyone watching the brewers for more than 2 minutes could tell braun is not himself and lucroy is hitting out of his mind.

that seems like a whackadoodle trade off to me


It may well be a horrible decision, but it makes much more sense than them hitting Braun if they weren't going to IBB him anyway.
   12. Canker Soriano Posted: June 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM (#4729363)
RP: Felix Heredia

Ah, Gas Can Heredia. He and Matches Karchner made lives miserable down the stretch for the 1998 Cubs.
   13. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: June 18, 2014 at 05:50 PM (#4729904)
The Game of 6/17/84 was a pretty clear example of the better team losing, both for the season as a whole (first place against last) and within the game itself (more hits, total bases, walks, and steals, fewer strikeouts, and the same number of errors and double plays). But the better team's batting average with runners in scoring position was 12.5% of the worse team's, so they lost.

Also, the game lasted 15 innings and was the 5th-best of '84 so far, which is always nice.
   14. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: June 18, 2014 at 07:25 PM (#4730015)
The Game of 6/17/14 was one of the best nine-inning games of the year so far. In particular, it featured a career day from a player on the losing side, a side that went on a remarkable string of near-success while having precious little actual success.

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