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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 6-20-2018

Toledo News-Bee, June 20, 1918:

LIFE’S FROLICSOME IN TEXAS LEAGUE

Umpire George Blackburn was a storm center in a recent hard fought Fort Worth-Dallas series at Dallas. In one game Lee of Fort Worth, angry over a decision, threw dirt in Blackburn’s face.

The maddened umpire struck the first player he saw, who happened to be Clarence Kraft, who retaliated by giving his umps a beating. It took a half dozen policemen to pull him off Blackburn.

Frolicsome indeed.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 20, 2018 at 09:44 AM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 20, 2018 at 09:46 AM (#5695968)
No huge stars on today's Birthday Team, but all of the position players are pretty good.

John Beckwith was one of the best hitters in the history of the Negro Leagues, played every position, and should probably be in the lineup somewhere. He wasn't much of a defensive player and you wouldn't necessarily want him at shortstop, but putting Beckwith at short allowed me to slide Thon to second and bench Dave Nelson.

If this were a real team, you'd probably be better off with Werber at second, Thon at short, and Beckwith faking third base as well as he can.

C: Andy Etchebarren (10.76 WAR)
1B: Kendrys Morales (12.19 WAR)
2B: Dickie Thon (23.94 WAR)
3B: Billy Werber (25.07 WAR)
SS: John Beckwith (0.0 WAR)
LF: Carlos Lee (28.3 WAR)
CF: Rob Mackowiak (5.55 WAR)
RF: Jim Delahanty (18.86 WAR)

SP: Win Mercer (27.18 WAR)
SP: Kevin Gregg (4.52 WAR)
SP: Wally Burnette (3.45 WAR)
SP: Wayland Dean (1.16 WAR)
SP: 1990s Mike Grace (0.67 WAR)
RP: Bobby Seay (2.99 WAR)

Manager: Ned Cuthbert
Owner: Cum Posey
-5.4 career WAR: Juan Castro (-5.4 WAR)
Eye chart: Doug Gwosdz
Fun name: Rip Hagerman, Pryor McBee
   2. Batman Posted: June 20, 2018 at 10:13 AM (#5695987)
I thought Carlos Lee played some third, but I guess he never did in the majors. He was almost exclusively a third baseman in the minors, though- 509 of the 529 games he played a position were at third.
   3. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: June 20, 2018 at 12:19 PM (#5696139)
50 years ago today, the right-field section of Tiger Stadium was cleared of fans before the game. The day before, they'd tossed cherry bombs and quarter-sized ball bearings at Red Sox outfielder Ken "Hawk" Harrelson.

   4. vortex of dissipation Posted: June 20, 2018 at 12:36 PM (#5696151)
50 years ago today, the right-field section of Tiger Stadium was cleared of fans before the game. The day before, they'd tossed cherry bombs and quarter-sized ball bearings at Red Sox outfielder Ken "Hawk" Harrelson.


Sounds reasonable enough. What was the problem?
   5. eric Posted: June 20, 2018 at 12:54 PM (#5696173)
I just noticed that Eduardo Escobar has 32 doubles in 66 games (69 team games). Where did that come from? That's a record pace no matter how you slice it: 75 per 162 team games.

Reacquainting myself with the current record holder, the very mortal Earl Webb, I see that his career high was of course 67. His second highest doubles total was just 30, then 28, then 18, then single digits. His career total was 155. I imagine that must be some sort of record for "lowest career total for a single-season record holder in a positive baseball counting stat." Heck, the HBP guys are well beyond that total.

Anyways, if Escobar passes Webb, he'll have more career doubles, but will be very much of the same "WTF?" mold.

Edit: ok, Chief Wilson has the single-season triples record of 36, but only managed 114 for his career. But his career total is over 3X his single-season record, whereas Webb is at only 2.3X. So lowest multiple? Regardless it's a shockingly low career total.
   6. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: June 20, 2018 at 01:03 PM (#5696186)
Sounds reasonable enough. What was the problem?

They missed.
   7. Ziggy's screen name Posted: June 20, 2018 at 01:23 PM (#5696223)
What I learned today about Eduard Escobar is that he's a major league baseball player. (And has been since 2011!) He's not too good (except this year), not too bad, just pleasantly below average, plays in Minnesota. Basically he's the perfectly forgettable player. He played in only one post season game, a play-in game (so it doesn't even really count), which his team lost. The only thing screwing it up is that he pitched an inning once, otherwise before this season there was nothing interesting or notable about him at all. He's got six career WAR and B-R even has his most similar player as the boringly named Jose Castillo, whom I'd also forgotten about.
   8. Batman Posted: June 20, 2018 at 01:41 PM (#5696242)
It's not a positive stat, but the single-season record for losses is 48 by John Coleman 135 years ago. He lost 24 games the rest of his career.
   9. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: June 20, 2018 at 01:52 PM (#5696259)
Edit: ok, Chief Wilson has the single-season triples record of 36, but only managed 114 for his career. But his career total is over 3X his single-season record, whereas Webb is at only 2.3X. So lowest multiple? Regardless it's a shockingly low career total.


Well, the multiplier method has an inherent bias to low total career stats. The career triples leader has 309, 8.6 X Wilson's record season. Hack Wilson, in the far higher total RBI category, has a smaller percentage of the career RBI total, 1/12.

Put another way, Hack Wilson is 244th in career RBI. Wilson is 113th in triples, and Webb is, well, not in the top 1000. Ok, Webb "wins"
   10. Batman Posted: June 20, 2018 at 02:05 PM (#5696273)
Webb is tied for 1468th in career doubles, and he'll drop a few more places this year. He was 1458th at the start of the season.

Not relevant to anything, but Roger Maris was 36th in career home runs with 275 when he retired in 1968. The top 36 now all has at least 465 HR (Beltre, Cabrera, and Winfield are tied for 34th-36th.) Maris was 96th on the career list after 1998 and 182nd now.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: June 20, 2018 at 09:12 PM (#5696615)
It's not a positive stat, but the single-season record for losses is 48 by John Coleman 135 years ago. He lost 24 games the rest of his career.

But that's why it needs to be a positive stat. You wouldn't expect a terrible pitcher to be allowed to pile up loss after loss. Now if there was a pitcher with, say, a 150-72 record and 1/3 of his losses came in one season then I suppose that would be "positive."

Looking at Coleman's line -- ahh, what an era that was. He gave up 510 R in 538 innings but only 291 of them were earned runs. It might have been worse than that -- his ERA was 4.87 but his FIP was just 3.34 despite giving up a whopping 17 HR! He even managed 3 shut-outs. I'm guessing that's the most shut-outs for any pitcher season with an RA/9 over 8.5. :-)

All of Duane Kuiper's career HRs came in one game!

They're not record-breaking seasons (or even close) but 24% of Brady Anderson's career HRs came in one season. It's nearly 28% for Campaneris and a whopping 37% for Rick Wilkins. And of course Ichiro could have hit 40% of his HRs in one season if he had wanted to.
   12. eric Posted: June 20, 2018 at 09:19 PM (#5696621)
It's not a positive stat, but the single-season record for losses is 48 by John Coleman 135 years ago. He lost 24 games the rest of his career.


That's why I threw positive in there. I figured there was some negative-result stat like losses where someone had a horrible season and then no one wanted him around any more. Which appears to be what happened to Coleman--he had another half season (and 17 losses) as a pitcher and then appeared to transition to the OF, with only spot starts as a pitcher afterwards. Thanks for alerting me to someone I'd never heard of before.

Hack Wilson is 244th in career RBI. Wilson is 113th in triples, and Webb is, well, not in the top 1000. Ok, Webb "wins"


That appears to be an appropriate metric: lowest career total ranking for the single-season record-holder. Even Coleman with his 72 career losses is tied for #960 overall. That may mean we could expand the metric to include positive or negative counting stats.

It's probably a little late to try to crowd-source it, but I'd certainly be interested in what the record is if it isn't Mr. Webb.
   13. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: June 20, 2018 at 09:34 PM (#5696629)
He's got six career WAR and B-R even has his most similar player as the boringly named Jose Castillo, whom I'd also forgotten about.


If you were watching Pirates games circa 2007, you'd remember Jose Castillo from confusing him with the at the time equally boringly named Jose Bautista.
   14. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 20, 2018 at 09:35 PM (#5696630)
If you were watching Pirates games circa 2007
And who wasn't, really?
   15. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: June 20, 2018 at 09:46 PM (#5696635)
That appears to be an appropriate metric: lowest career total ranking for the single-season record-holder. Even Coleman with his 72 career losses is tied for #960 overall. That may mean we could expand the metric to include positive or negative counting stats.

It's probably a little late to try to crowd-source it, but I'd certainly be interested in what the record is if it isn't Mr. Webb.


On the other end of the spectrum is Barry Bonds of course, 1st and 1st. As is Nolan Ryan, sort of. Apparently there are bunch of 1880s pitchers with more than 383 strikeouts in a season. Not sure if they should count.
   16. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: June 21, 2018 at 09:20 AM (#5696818)
The single-season record for errors by a catcher is one Nat Hicks of the 1876 New York Mutuals. Yes, from a team that played 56 games that year. (he played 45, with 94 errors)

The top 341 seasons for errors by a catcher were all in 1925 or earlier. In fact, the top 100 are all in 1894 or earlier.

In a tie for 342nd with the "modern record" I suppose are John Bateman and Thurman Munson with 23.
   17. Batman Posted: June 21, 2018 at 10:17 AM (#5696859)
If you were watching Pirates games circa 2007
And who wasn't, really?
I Tivoed them, and I have some time this weekend. NO SPOILERS
   18. vortex of dissipation Posted: June 21, 2018 at 10:44 AM (#5696880)
Shano Collins talking about Earl Webb in 1931, “The reason he hits so many doubles is that he’s hitting a long, hard ball this year and he’s too darned slow on the bases to get to third.”
   19. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 21, 2018 at 11:21 AM (#5696903)
I Tivoed them, and I have some time this weekend. NO SPOILERS
Oh, they're already spoiled.
   20. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 22, 2018 at 01:56 AM (#5697639)
There have been more 60-HR seasons than 60-double seasons. A bit counterintuitive.

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