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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 6-27-2018

Washington Herald, June 27, 1918:

Roger Bresnahan has been selected to succeed Fielder Jones as manager of the St. Louis Americans, it was reported [in Toledo yesterday].

Bresnahan left [Toledo] last week and is reported to be in conference with Phil Ball, owner of the St. Louis club.

I’m not sure what the Toledo Blade reported about this, but the News-Bee was pretty clear in reporting that they had no firm information on Bresnahan to St. Louis, and that Bresnahan had denied the rumor.

It didn’t happen. He stayed in Toledo and lived there most of the rest of his life, which would be weird if it weren’t his hometown.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 27, 2018 at 11:06 AM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 27, 2018 at 11:08 AM (#5700513)
Jeff Conine was a good player, but if he's one of your marquee names, you don't have a great team. Today's Birthday Team is not a great team.

C: Jackie Hayes (1.21 WAR)
1B: Jeff Conine (19.52 WAR)
2B: Wayne Terwilliger (7.17 WAR)
3B: Rico Petrocelli (39.2 WAR)
SS/Manager: Eddie Kasko (11.09 WAR)
LF: Gus Zernial (8.82 WAR)
CF: Jim Edmonds (60.4 WAR)
RF: Abraham Almonte (2.06 WAR)

SP: Rube Benton (15.01 WAR)
SP: Bill Daley (2.18 WAR)
SP: Fred Martin (2.09 WAR)
SP: Ed Hobaugh (0.25 WAR)
SP: Al Porto (0.18 WAR)
RP: Jim Johnson (8.51 WAR)

-4.43 career WAR: Daryle Ward (-4.43 WAR)
-5.55 career WAR: Jackie Gutierrez (-5.55 WAR)
7.60 career ERA in 151.2 IP: Bill Rotes (-3.15 WAR)
8.86 career ERA in 105.2 IP: Andy Larkin (-3.9 WAR)
Fun names: Yacksel Rios, Harry Diddlebock, Fuzz White
Not that one: Bull Durham
   2. Batman Posted: June 27, 2018 at 11:27 AM (#5700551)
Wayne Terwilliger is the 25th-oldest living ex-player. There have been two MLB players named Terwilliger, and both were born on June 27. It's easily the Terwilligest day of the baseball season.
   3. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: June 27, 2018 at 11:41 AM (#5700581)
Jeff Conine was MVP of the only All-Star Game I've attended, but even then he was overshadowed by Hideo Nomo. I had a whole row of fans who had flown in from Japan behind me. They were all drunk af before they got there and -- in the pre-9/11-security-theater days -- had all kinds of banners, signs, drums, other assorted noisemakers with them. They were great fun for the 2 innings that Nomo pitched and when he didn't come out for the 3rd inning, they gathered all their stuff and left.
   4. Batman Posted: June 27, 2018 at 11:51 AM (#5700612)
In that 1995 ASG, the AL started Randy Johnson and used three other 200-game winners (Dennis Martinez, Kenny Rogers, and David Wells) in relief, plus Kevin Appier (169 wins) and Jose Mesa (321 saves.) The HR that won the MVP for Conine was against, you guessed it, Steve Ontiveros.
   5. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: June 27, 2018 at 11:56 AM (#5700631)
He stayed in Toledo and lived there most of the rest of his life, which would be weird if it weren’t his hometown.


Catcher Klinger...
   6. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: June 27, 2018 at 11:58 AM (#5700635)
Jeff Conine was a good player, but if he's one of your marquee names, you don't have a great team. Today's Birthday Team is not a great team.


Petrocelli, Zernial & Edmonds would, presumably, help Mr. Marlin out.
   7. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:01 PM (#5700641)
Petrocelli, Zernial & Edmonds would, presumably, help Mr. Marlin out.

still the best baseball card ever
   8. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:06 PM (#5700648)
Still more than half a season to go, but the AL is looking pretty well wrapped up. The A's are the closest team that is currently not in a playoff spot to a spot, and they are 7 out of the second Wild card. The NL has 4 teams currently out a playoff spot within 2 games.
   9. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:10 PM (#5700655)
Still more than half a season to go, but the AL is looking pretty well wrapped up.

How long will it take Manfred to consider another couple of Wild Cards in each league to "promote fan interest" through the manufactured drama over being the 7th or 8th best team in each league?
   10. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:12 PM (#5700658)
Still more than half a season to go, but the AL is looking pretty well wrapped up. The A's are the closest team that is currently not in a playoff spot to a spot, and they are 7 out of the second Wild card. The NL has 4 teams currently out a playoff spot within 2 games.

Thank God for the second wild card. If we still had the old one WC system, the league might be over by July. At least the Yankees-Red Sox race should be fun. I hope the M's can hang with the Astros too.
   11. BDC Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:21 PM (#5700670)
Wayne Terwilliger is the 25th-oldest living ex-player

Eddie Kasko is 87, not among the younger ex-players either. Kind of a similar career to Terwilliger, utility-infielder type destined for the coaching/managerial track.

Rico Petrocelli is 75. That seems too young somehow. When I first started following baseball, Petrocelli was already a star and a veteran of several seasons, but he was only 24 then, so he's younger than the other stars of my childhood.
   12. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:33 PM (#5700682)
Petrocelli was already a star and a veteran of several seasons, but he was only 24 then, so he's younger than the other stars of my childhood.


It seems like the Red Sox of the mid-'60s had a corner on the barely-post-pubescent-star market: Petrocelli, Yaz, Tony C, Lonborg, Boomer Scott, Reggie Smith... All got serious MLB playing time at 23 or younger.

Heck, Wilbur Wood logged 7 innings as a 19-year-old Sock in 1962.
   13. BDC Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:34 PM (#5700685)
Another whole bunch of box-score-line records before I depart for my summer vacation. One trivia item in bold.

Most times with the specific line ab/r/h/bi in the regular season since 1908:

4 1 2 1 : Henry Aaron leads with 67. Albert Pujols had his 66th a couple of weeks ago to tie Willie Mays for second place, so may claim the record before too long

4 2 2 1 : Mays, 38 times

4 3 2 1 : Rickey Henderson with nine

4 4 2 1 : 58 guys have done it once, a extraordinary number considering nobody's done it twice. Bryce Harper, last year, is the most recent to do it

4 5 2 1 : four have done it once, most recently Craig Biggio in 1996

4 1 2 2 : Aaron with 46

4 1 2 3 : the leaderboard includes Hall of Famers Aaron, Ruth, Musial, Frank Thomas, Stargell, Dawson, Snider, and Tony Perez; but the all-time leader is a mere HOVGer, a RHB National League slugging outfielder of the 1950s

4 1 2 4 : Perez and Jeff Kent did this ten times each

4 1 2 5 : Vladdie, three times

4 1 2 6 : 53 have done it once, most recently Robinson Cano in 2016

4 1 2 7 : eight men once each. Most recent: Adeiny Hechavarria in May of 2013. Hechavarria came into the game batting .169 and promptly hit a bases-loaded triple (not scoring) and then a grand slam. After that he did nothing much the rest of the day

   14. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:40 PM (#5700688)
Bobby Thompson?
   15. BDC Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM (#5700693)
Not Thomson. This guy was a somewhat bigger star than Thomson, had seven 100-RBI seasons to Thomson's four.

Well, except in the cosmic sense that very few players have ever been bigger stars than Bobby Thomson.
   16. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM (#5700694)
Carl Furillo?

EDIT: Just looked. Not Furillo.
   17. vortex of dissipation Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM (#5700697)
still the best baseball card ever


Agreed.
   18. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:45 PM (#5700698)
Bobby Thompson?

Write this on the blackboard 100 times:

BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON
BOBBY THOMSON

Okay, you get the idea.

   19. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:46 PM (#5700699)
Gotta be Del Ennis then
   20. vortex of dissipation Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:48 PM (#5700701)
Del Ennis?


edit: Coke to Misirlou
   21. BDC Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM (#5700702)
Ennis is correct!
   22. BDC Posted: June 27, 2018 at 12:55 PM (#5700705)
Carl Furillo had 35 career bWAR, Bobby Thomson 33, and Del Ennis 31. Ennis was the best hitter of the three, but was really dragged down by his defensive numbers (which correspond to his lousy reputation). In 1956-57, Ennis hit 50 home runs and drove in 200 runs, but clocked in with -0.7 bWAR.
   23. Batman Posted: June 27, 2018 at 01:02 PM (#5700713)
Write this on the blackboard 100 times:
Maybe he meant Robby Thompson.

Just kidding. Nobody ever means Robby Thompson.
   24. SandyRiver Posted: June 27, 2018 at 01:53 PM (#5700766)
How long will it take Manfred to consider another couple of Wild Cards in each league to "promote fan interest" through the manufactured drama over being the 7th or 8th best team in each league?

Only one more per league, so to imitate the NFL system (and I should probably wash out my mouth with soap.) Of course, that schedule has the potential of the WS extending well into November, when games at parks near the Great Lakes or East Coast might have to contend with some interesting weather.
   25. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: June 27, 2018 at 02:48 PM (#5700867)
games at parks near the Great Lakes or East Coast might have to contend with some interesting weather.

All the more reason to tear them all down and replace them with retractable-roof parks.... with air conditioning! Win-win!
   26. SandyRiver Posted: June 27, 2018 at 02:59 PM (#5700885)
#25: Except for the taxpayers who likely would be footing the bill for all those multi-billion dollar gymnasiums.
   27. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: June 27, 2018 at 03:31 PM (#5700928)
taxpayers who likely would be footing the bill for all those multi-billion dollar gymnasiums.

From the team's POV, that's not a bug. It's a feature.
   28. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 27, 2018 at 04:32 PM (#5701005)
There have been two MLB players named Terwilliger
Sideshow Wayne and Sideshow Dick?
   29. Walt Davis Posted: June 27, 2018 at 05:36 PM (#5701067)
Reports that Jayson Werth has officially called it quits.
   30. Batman Posted: June 27, 2018 at 05:40 PM (#5701070)
Chris Bosio was fired as Tigers pitching coach for using racially insensitive language toward a team employee.
   31. Hank Gillette Posted: June 27, 2018 at 11:24 PM (#5701258)
still the best baseball card ever


“Six baseballs are seemingly attached to his arm as he flashes the ‘OK’ sign…”

That is a funny way to spell bat.

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