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Tuesday, June 05, 2018

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 6-5-2018

Toledo News-Bee, June 5, 1918:

Babe Ruth, right now baseball’s demon clouter, hit his third home run in as many days into the right field bleachers at Detroit on Tuesday and helped Boston beat the Tigers.

Three home runs in three days doesn’t seem all that remarkable, but Wally Pipp led the 1917 American League in home runs. With nine.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 05, 2018 at 09:44 AM | 34 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 05, 2018 at 09:46 AM (#5686086)
I'm not 100% certain, but I strongly suspect today's Birthday Team leads the league in position players named Bill or Billy.

C: Robinson Chirinos (8.01 WAR)
1B: Duke Sims (12.78 WAR)
2B: Eddie Joost (30.72 WAR)
3B: Bill Spiers (10.19 WAR)
SS: Billy Urbanski (5.84 WAR)
LF: Ray Lankford (38.17 WAR)
CF: Billy Maloney (3.15 WAR)
RF: Frank Huelsman (2.81 WAR)

SP: Jack Chesbro (42.07 WAR)
SP: Russ Ortiz (13.28 WAR)
SP: Jimmy Nelson (4.07 WAR)
SP: Al Javery (3.5 WAR)
SP: Dennis Blair (3.38 WAR)
RP: Lou Brissie (8.44 WAR)

Fun names: Truck Hannah, Charlie Gooch, Offa Neal, Beany Jacobson
Manager: Fred Mitchell
Pudge's kid: Dereck Rodriguez
Shall Gene?: Gene Schall
   2. BDC Posted: June 05, 2018 at 10:05 AM (#5686098)
Back to box-score lines! Most times since 1908 with the exact ab/r/h/bi line in regular-season ML games, trivia in bold:

4 1 1 2 : a beloved Cub slugger, 48 times

4 1 1 3 : a beloved Cub slugger, 22 times

4 1 1 4 : Travis Fryman, Matt Williams, and Jason Giambi did this six times apiece

4 1 1 5 : only two men have done this twice, both big-star RH sluggers who tested positive for PEDs
   3. Batman Posted: June 05, 2018 at 10:36 AM (#5686114)
Bruce Kison died on Saturday. With his death, and those of Dwight Clark and the guy who played Chester on Soap, it's been a rough few days for people I remember from when I was a kid.
   4. Nasty Nate Posted: June 05, 2018 at 10:41 AM (#5686117)

4 1 1 5 : only two men have done this twice, both big-star RH sluggers who tested positive for PEDs
Manny Ramirez hit a ton of grand slams, so he's probably one of the 2.
   5. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 05, 2018 at 10:48 AM (#5686122)
4 1 1 2 : a beloved Cub slugger, 48 times


Ernie Banks?

4 1 1 3 : a beloved Cub slugger, 22 times


Ernie Banks?
   6. BDC Posted: June 05, 2018 at 10:50 AM (#5686123)
Ernie Banks is the 4112 record holder, not the 4113.

Manny Ramirez is one of the 4115 guys.
   7. eric Posted: June 05, 2018 at 10:51 AM (#5686125)
Billy Williams 4113.

Alex Rodriguez 4115.

?
   8. BDC Posted: June 05, 2018 at 10:52 AM (#5686127)
RIP Bruce Kison. He was only nine years older than me.

I remember an exchange printed when Kison became a sudden star in 1971. A reporter asked if he shaved every day. Kison said "Yes." The reporter followed up: "Do you need to?" Kison: "Why would I shave every day if I didn't need to?"
   9. BDC Posted: June 05, 2018 at 10:53 AM (#5686128)
Not Williams or AROD.
   10. mathesond Posted: June 05, 2018 at 10:53 AM (#5686129)
4 1 1 3 - Billy Williams?
   11. mathesond Posted: June 05, 2018 at 10:53 AM (#5686130)
4 1 1 5 Mcgwire?
   12. BDC Posted: June 05, 2018 at 10:57 AM (#5686134)
Not McGwire – who never tested positive, right?
   13. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 05, 2018 at 10:59 AM (#5686135)
Bruce Kison wasn't quite as skinny as Kent Tekulve, but he was close. Throw in a young John Candelaria, and the 1976 Pirates led the NL in gaunt.
   14. Nasty Nate Posted: June 05, 2018 at 11:07 AM (#5686136)

Fun names: ...Offa Neal...
BBref says his full name was Theophilus Fountain Neal
   15. eric Posted: June 05, 2018 at 11:07 AM (#5686137)
4113: Sammy Sosa? (he was beloved for a while there)

Otherwise, Santo? There aren't many beloved Cubs sluggers out there.

4115: Braun?
   16. BDC Posted: June 05, 2018 at 11:09 AM (#5686139)
Sosa and Braun are correct!
   17. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: June 05, 2018 at 11:45 AM (#5686171)
RBI LEADERS OVER THE LAST YEAR

1. JD Martinez, 133
2. Nolan Arenado, 130
3. Edwin Encarnacion, 125
4. Giancarlo Stanton, 124
5. Scooter Gennett, 120

wat

.313/.357/.554 with 36 homers. For Scooter. Scooter Gennett.
   18. SoSH U at work Posted: June 05, 2018 at 11:48 AM (#5686172)
Bruce Kison died on Saturday.


Damn, my first of very few autographs. I sent him a baseball card and he (or someone in the Pirates clubhouse) sent it back signed. I don't know why I chose him.

   19. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 05, 2018 at 11:59 AM (#5686181)
Damn, my first of very few autographs.
Hey, it just went up in value.
   20. Rennie's Tenet Posted: June 05, 2018 at 12:41 PM (#5686208)
Kison led all Pirate pitchers of the 70s with 81 wins in the decade. It seems a shockingly low number for a team that averaged almost 92 wins.

Bill James did a list of the best "big game pitchers" of the postwar era a few years ago (before Bumgarner). Ten were guys someone, somewhere would argue for the Hall of Game: Mussina, Ford, Guidry, Pettitte, Santana, Smoltz, Sutton, Johnson, Gibson, and Oswalt. Kison was the outlier.
   21. vortex of dissipation Posted: June 05, 2018 at 12:42 PM (#5686211)
Bruce Kison is fifth is career wins for pitchers born in the state of Washington. The leader is an active pitcher - can you name him?
   22. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: June 05, 2018 at 01:08 PM (#5686236)
Tim Lincecum? Is he active?
   23. Batman Posted: June 05, 2018 at 01:14 PM (#5686250)
.313/.357/.554 with 36 homers. For Scooter. Scooter Gennett.
Tomorrow is the anniversary of his four-HR game, so by Thursday his "over the last year" stats will lose those 10 RBI and the 2 he had a year ago today. Maybe he'll have a big couple of days and get those 12 RBI back.
   24. vortex of dissipation Posted: June 05, 2018 at 01:23 PM (#5686259)
Lincecum is sixth, one spot behind Kison. He's pitching for the Rangers' AAA team in Round Rock.
   25. eric Posted: June 05, 2018 at 01:35 PM (#5686269)
Lincecum is sixth, one spot behind Kison. He's pitching for the Rangers' AAA team in Round Rock.


And to save people from having to go look him up...

10 G
0 GS
12.2 IP
2 HR
9 BB
10 K
14 H
12 R
8 ER
5.68 ERA

   26. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: June 05, 2018 at 01:36 PM (#5686270)
Jon Lester is from Washington state so I assume it's him
   27. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 05, 2018 at 01:48 PM (#5686281)
.313/.357/.554 with 36 homers. For Scooter. Scooter Gennett.
At one point earlier this week, Jose Ramirez was tied for the MLB lead in home runs. Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.
   28. vortex of dissipation Posted: June 05, 2018 at 01:48 PM (#5686282)
Jon Lester is from Washington state so I assume it's him.


That's correct.
   29. RJ in TO Posted: June 05, 2018 at 05:26 PM (#5686452)
At one point earlier this week, Jose Ramirez was tied for the MLB lead in home runs. Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.


Over the last 365 days, Jose Ramirez is hitting .320/.389/.633, with 40 homers, and 62 doubles. He's basically turned into Manny Ramirez.

   30. Perry Posted: June 05, 2018 at 05:51 PM (#5686478)
RIP Bruce Kison. He was only nine years older than me.


My one clear memory of him was as the Pirates' pitcher in the first ever World Series night game. (Please don't tell me he wasn't, because that's my one clear memory of him.)
   31. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 05, 2018 at 05:54 PM (#5686482)
(Please don't tell me he wasn't, because that's my one clear memory of him.)
The internet says you're right.
   32. Batman Posted: June 05, 2018 at 06:31 PM (#5686508)
Luke Walker started that first WS night game, but he got knocked out in the first. Kison finished the first inning and shut Baltimore down through the seventh. He got the win.

Kison's only World Series start was in 1979, and it didn't go well. He pitched to seven hitters. Five of them scored and only one made an out.
   33. vortex of dissipation Posted: June 05, 2018 at 10:28 PM (#5686679)
Lincecum is sixth, one spot behind Kison. He's pitching for the Rangers' AAA team in Round Rock.

And to save people from having to go look him up...

10 G
0 GS
12.2 IP
2 HR
9 BB
10 K
14 H
12 R
8 ER
5.68 ERA


The Rangers released Lincecum today.
   34. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 06, 2018 at 12:56 PM (#5687005)
Kison finished the first inning and shut Baltimore down through the seventh.


6 1/3 IP, only one hit, but 3 HB.

Walker wasn't terrible; two of the three hits against him didn't leave the infield. But down three runs quickly and facing the Orioles RH-hitting lineup (Boog Powell the only LHB), Murtaugh did the quick hook.

-- MWE

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