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Friday, July 29, 2011

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 7-29-1911

[Pittsburgh] Gazette Times, July 29, 1911:

The Boston Club today is a joke, and it has been made so by its owner, a man who does not know a ball player from a jack salmon.

...

Today there is just one player with the Bostons who measures up to National League form, and his name is Sweeney, neither euphonious nor yet a poetic cognomen, yet he can play ball at all stages.

...

Now, I suppose that bunch of Beanbakers will turn right around and down the Pirates.  They will—I do not think.

Holy moly, I think I may have just stumbled onto the earliest known usage of the “not” joke.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:41 AM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 29, 2011 at 01:33 PM (#3888146)
What players today would you describe as "euphonious" or "a poetic cognomen"?
   2. zack Posted: July 29, 2011 at 02:00 PM (#3888162)
Fausto Carmona, absolutely.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 29, 2011 at 02:18 PM (#3888171)
Archi Cianfracco now, Archi Cianfracco forever.
   4. Guapo Posted: July 29, 2011 at 02:24 PM (#3888178)
Emilio Bonafacio.
   5. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 29, 2011 at 02:26 PM (#3888183)
I think "Omar Infante" is a pretty nice name. Also "Emilio Bonifacio". And "Lonnie Chisenhall".
   6. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: July 29, 2011 at 02:40 PM (#3888197)
New historical item up today at THT: 10 years ago Davey Lopes threatened to drill Rickey Henderson for running on the bases. It was San Diego's second Unwritten Rules controversy of that year, after the Ben Davis bunt incident.

Then the item lists a bunch of other events celebrating anniversaries & day-versaries today, notably: MLB team purchases kid called Cy Young, a minor league game with a bizarre way of stopping a perfect game effort, Ron Santo running wild on the bases, Charlie Manuel's big home run, maybe the worst trade in Orioles history, the time Rick Sutcliffe stole home, one of the most controversial trades in White Sox history, Rickey steals five bases and scores four runs - despite getting zero hits, Vince Coleman called out for interference twice in one game, Mets trade Jeff Kent, Phillies trade Scott Rolen, new sausage debuts in Wisconsin, Phillies get an ace pitcher - twice.
   7. Guapo Posted: July 29, 2011 at 03:07 PM (#3888214)
maybe the worst trade in Orioles history


?
   8. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: July 29, 2011 at 03:12 PM (#3888217)
maybe the worst trade in Orioles history

?

I'm sorry - botched that one up. It's one of the worst trade in Red Sox history. Not a bad one at all for the O's. Wrote that bit backwards.
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 29, 2011 at 03:20 PM (#3888220)
maybe the worst trade in Orioles history


Getting rid of Miguel Tejada wasn't that bad of a move.
   10. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: July 29, 2011 at 03:27 PM (#3888223)
Getting rid of Miguel Tejada wasn't that bad of a move.

They never shoulda got rid of Baines. Or, they never shoulda added on Baines. Or both.
   11. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: July 29, 2011 at 03:37 PM (#3888230)
I'm sorry - botched that one up. It's one of the worst trade in Red Sox history. Not a bad one at all for the O's. Wrote that bit backwards.


That one never bothered me all that much. The guy they got pitched well for three years and helped the team to two win division titles. And by the time the best player from that deal got around to putting it all together, it's doubtful he still would have been a member of the Sox anyway.

It sure isn't any Bagwell for Larry Andersen, a guy who pitched about as well as he could have been expected to. The trouble was, he was still just Larry Andersen.
   12. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 29, 2011 at 03:50 PM (#3888241)
What players today would you describe as "euphonious" or "a poetic cognomen"?

Omar Quintanilla. Jarrod Saltalamacchia. Poetic? This is going back a few years, but Kirby Puckett.

"There once was a man from Nantucket..."
   13. chemdoc Posted: July 29, 2011 at 03:53 PM (#3888243)
Bartolo Colon.
   14. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: July 29, 2011 at 03:53 PM (#3888244)
Whenever I hear the name "Larry Andersen" the first thing that comes to mind is the bottom of the seventh in this game. Hey -- eventually someone hit the ball out of the infield.
   15. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 29, 2011 at 04:37 PM (#3888276)
Tony Eusebio's last name is the closest to euphonious, isn't it?
   16. TerpNats Posted: July 29, 2011 at 04:48 PM (#3888287)
...it has been made so by its owner, a man who does not know a ball player from a jack salmon.
I'm sure more recent owners would qualify for this rather caustic remark -- Marge Schott, Bob Short, George Argyros, Eddie Chiles, C. Arnholt Smith...
   17. Bob Evans Posted: July 29, 2011 at 05:05 PM (#3888313)
Heck, I don't even know what a jack salmon is.
   18. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: July 29, 2011 at 05:10 PM (#3888318)
Tim's brother. And not a ballplayer.
   19. Jose Remains The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: July 29, 2011 at 05:29 PM (#3888342)
It's one of the worst trade in Red Sox history.


I want to second what SoSHIally said with more emphasis. That was a very good trade for the Sox. They won the division in 1988 by one game and in 1990 by two games and likely would have won neither title without Boddicker. I think this was a very good trade for the Red Sox (and the Orioles as well of course). This was as close to the perfect "win-win" trade as you can possibly get. I would doubt that many of these trades have worked out as well for both teams as this one did.
   20. Walt Davis Posted: July 29, 2011 at 06:59 PM (#3888458)
poetic cognomen

Lousy band name but good fantasy baseball name.
   21. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 29, 2011 at 09:48 PM (#3888599)
According to Jim Bowden, the Indians have joined the hunt for Jason Marquis.

I'd really like to whack the Dolans in the kneecaps with a ball peen right about now. I can see where this is going: "We made a commitment to winning, bringing in veteran reinforcements like Jason Marquis and Kosuke Fukudome, and the fans still didn't show up. Screw it - there's no reason to spend money if the fans won't come out to the park."

*sigh*

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