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Friday, July 18, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 7-18-2014

An account of the game of the year from the Pittsburgh Press, July 18, 1914:

In the sixth inning, Wagner singled, after Mowrey had been retired, and took third of [sic] Viox’s drive to center. Bescher pegged to Stock, but when the Giant third-sacker tried to locate the ball it was missing. Wagner jumped up and started for home, and as he ran the sphere dropped from his clothing…Umpire Byron called Wagner out for interference.
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The decision caused a mighty howl, which was participated in by many of the players and by Manager Fred Clarke, who applied a flow of profanity to the umpire, which was anything but pleasing to the disgusted spectators who were forced to listen to it or leave the grounds. Mr. Clarke’s language on this occasion, or any other, will not win ball games. It is doing things - and doing them right - that counts in the records.

The whole article is worth a read if you have a couple minutes.

New York won the game 3-1 in 21 innings, a classic that included complete games from Rube Marquard and Babe Adams, Adams going 21 innings without issuing a walk, Mike Mowrey costing the Pirates a win by not running out a ground ball, and the goofy play mentioned in the excerpt.

Commissioner Gordon Shumway (Dan Lee) Posted: July 18, 2014 at 08:40 AM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dugout, history, honus wagner

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   1. Commissioner Gordon Shumway (Dan Lee) Posted: July 18, 2014 at 08:42 AM (#4753422)
It's the Torre and Torii show on today's Birthday Team. Unfortunately, Torey Lovullo missed out on the fun by exactly seven days. He was born on July 25.

C: Larry McLean
1B: Allen Craig
2B: Ramiro Pena
3B/Manager: Joe Torre
SS: Simon Nicholls
LF: Mike Greenwell
CF: Torii Hunter
RF: Johnny Hopp

SP: Rudy May
SP: Ben Sheets
SP: Rolando Arrojo
SP: Ad Brennan
SP: Josh Banks
RP: Windy McCall

Fun names: Hod Kibbie, Herman Pitz, Razor Shines
Prospect flameout: Antone Williamson
Pitcher or member of '80s New Wave band?: Butch Edge
   2. BDC Posted: July 18, 2014 at 08:49 AM (#4753427)
Rangers DFA Carlos Pena and plan to go with JP Arencibia at 1B. Man, this season is like a tutorial in the concept of Replacement Level.
   3. Commissioner Gordon Shumway (Dan Lee) Posted: July 18, 2014 at 09:55 AM (#4753489)
Not that it matters when you're 23 games out of first place, but it bums me out when teams do stuff like make J.P. Arencibia a first baseman instead of getting creative and grabbing a guy like Sandy Madera.

Maybe Madera wouldn't hit. Maybe he'd be a disaster. Maybe, after three weeks, you'd be sitting there wondering what in the world you were thinking when you acquired him.

But I'm certain Arencibia won't hit, will be a disaster, and will cause people to wonder what they were thinking.
   4. Sweatpants Posted: July 18, 2014 at 10:25 AM (#4753524)
Something I didn't know until yesterday (or, if I did, I'd forgotten it): Harry Heilmann finished all but six games of the 1921 season with a batting average of at least .400. Rogers Hornsby finished all but four games that year at .400. Unfortunately, for each of them one of those games under .400 was the last one of the year.
   5. salvomania Posted: July 18, 2014 at 01:47 PM (#4753724)
I'd put Torre behind the plate, in place of Larry McLean, and go with 1952 N.L. All Star and D-Day veteran Eddie Kazak at third base.

While Kazak may not be demonstrably better with the bat than McLean (career OPS+'s of 87 and 86, respectively) and while McLean enjoyed a longer career (starting-ish catcher for six seasons, vs. Kazak only seeing semi-regular action in two seasons), Kazak was an All Star (in his rookie season; he got injured two weeks later and missed most of the rest of the season, and lost his regular 3b job to Tommy Glaviano) and was playing with a "plastic patch" in his arm to replace bone that was lost when he was bayoneted at Normandy.
   6. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: July 18, 2014 at 02:58 PM (#4753776)
Braves DFA Dan Uggla.
   7. Commissioner Gordon Shumway (Dan Lee) Posted: July 18, 2014 at 03:17 PM (#4753792)
Rangers sign him to play first base in 3...2...1...
   8. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: July 18, 2014 at 05:15 PM (#4753888)
The Game of 7/17/84 was the rare pitcher's duel that my system actually likes - mostly because it was more a contest of escape artistry. It ended with what is almost unquestionably the best moment in the career of a pretty mediocre player.

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