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Thursday, July 03, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 7-3-2014

[Phoenix] Arizona Republican, July 3, 1914:

GIRLS! LISTEN, THE NEW PLAYERS ARE HANDSOME

Three handsome youths are en route to Phoenix to sign up with the Riverside team. At least Manager Barrett says they are handsome, and what he says goes—for it’s good publicity and may attract the girls. Incidentally that also may be credited to the above mentioned far-sighted manager.

They may or may not be able to play baseball, but they sure are dreamy.

Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: July 03, 2014 at 08:04 AM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: July 03, 2014 at 08:07 AM (#4742481)
How does today affect Frank Tanana? It's his 61st birthday.

Birthday Team:
C: Buddy Rosar
1B: Juan Rivera
2B: Cesar Tovar
3B: Coco Laboy
SS: Heinie Sand
LF: Greg Vaughn
CF: Moises Alou
RF: Curt Walker

SP: Frank Tanana
SP: Nig Cuppy
SP: Luke Hamlin
SP: Matt Keough
SP: Cliff Curtis
RP: Ed Roebuck

Owners: George Steinbrenner and Peter Angelos
General Manager: Brian Cashman
Would be in the rotation if Dusty hadn't broken him: Edinson Volquez
Pinch hitters: Danny Heep, Warren Newson
Fun Name: Bunny Brief
   2. Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: July 03, 2014 at 08:10 AM (#4742482)
Noticed while (unsuccessfully) digging around for information on pro baseball in Phoenix in 1914: The York White Roses moved in mid-season to Lancaster, PA and became the Lancaster Red Roses.

I see you smiling, fans of 15th century English history.
   3. BDC Posted: July 03, 2014 at 08:35 AM (#4742486)
Adrian Beltre Milestone Watch (because what else do Ranger fans have to watch this year?): with two hits and two RBI last night, Beltre passes Buddy Bell for 95th in career Hits (2,515). Is it just my imagination, or has he been passing a HOVG third baseman pretty much every day in something or other, lately?

The RBI tie Beltre for 88th career (1,351) with Carlos Beltran. Both of these players show the dangers, I think, of extrapolating somebody into the Hall of Fame. Beltran was so good last year you figured he'd just keep chalking up the credentials, but he may suddenly be through. And so with Beltre: he looks to be a lock for all kinds of HOF milestones now, but we have no idea where the wall is located in his case. I'll just keep enjoying him in the present moment.
   4. Davo Dozier Posted: July 03, 2014 at 10:59 AM (#4742576)
Cesar Tovar is one of 13 players (since 1916) to pitch and catch in the same game. The list:

Jake Elmore, Jeff Mathis, Rob Johnson, Jamie Burke, Wiki Gonzalez, Shane Halter, Scott Sheldon, Rick Dempsey, Rick Cerone, Jeff Newman, Cesar Tovar, Bert Campaneris, Dee Moore.
   5. Canker Soriano Posted: July 03, 2014 at 11:08 AM (#4742587)
How was Volquez eligible for ROY votes in 2008? He had pitched 80 innings over parts of 3 seasons prior to that year.
   6. esseff Posted: July 03, 2014 at 11:37 AM (#4742610)
   7. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 03, 2014 at 11:40 AM (#4742613)

How was Volquez eligible for ROY votes in 2008? He had pitched 80 innings over parts of 3 seasons prior to that year.


IIRC, he wasn't, some sportswriter(s)? messed up.
   8. Canker Soriano Posted: July 03, 2014 at 11:52 AM (#4742627)
Three handsome youths are en route to Phoenix to sign up with the Riverside team.

That does sound like the setup for any number of Three Stooges shorts. Three orphans are arriving from the home, three doctors, three dentists, etc.

I'm surprised there was never a baseball playing short. I know they did football, boxing, wrestling, and golf.
   9. Canker Soriano Posted: July 03, 2014 at 11:55 AM (#4742630)
IIRC, he wasn't, some sportswriter(s)? messed up.

Interesting. Looks like the BBWAA mistakenly included him on the ballot, and he got enough votes to finish 4th.

Would have been more interesting if he won - I wonder what they would have done.
   10. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: July 03, 2014 at 11:59 AM (#4742634)
Beltran was so good last year you figured he'd just keep chalking up the credentials, but he may suddenly be through.


Using the Favourite Toy, Beltran had, coming into 2014, a 50% chance of 421 HR, 2604 hits and 75 WAR: clearly HoF numbers, even without any rings. But now...even if he gets it in gear, he's probably looking at his worst season since 2005.
   11. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: July 03, 2014 at 12:06 PM (#4742640)
Noticed while (unsuccessfully) digging around for information on pro baseball in Phoenix in 1914: The York White Roses moved in mid-season to Lancaster, PA and became the Lancaster Red Roses.

I see you smiling, fans of 15th century English history.


You can still get the jersey from Ebbets Field Flannels. Don't think I haven't been tempted.
   12. Davo Dozier Posted: July 03, 2014 at 12:22 PM (#4742655)
Earlier this year, Ichiro! went through a stretch where 27 of his 27 hits were singles. That's very damn impressive.

Digging through a couple of likely targets (from the modern era), I found that Jerry Remy of all people had a stretch where 58 straight hits were all singles (a .319/.361/.319 line in 182 at bats from the end of 1980 to May of 1981).

I have to assume that's the leader since, oh, since pitchers started throwing overhand; can anyone confirm?
   13. Ziggy Posted: July 03, 2014 at 02:19 PM (#4742764)
I don't have any idea about the singles thing, but I thought I'd mention someone at the far opposite end of the spectrum.

Joey Gallo is now striking out in 42% of his plate appearances (since his promotion) and hitting .297. Some how. That's incredible. If the ball goes fair, it's probably a hit. If my math is right, he's made 17 outs in play since getting promoted. To go along with 22 hits and 36 strike outs.
   14. Davo Dozier Posted: July 03, 2014 at 02:45 PM (#4742779)
13--I was confused for a second--I thought you meant he'd been promoted to the Majors and I'd missed it somehow!
   15. Sweatpants Posted: July 03, 2014 at 03:52 PM (#4742819)
Famously terrible hitter Bob Buhl had two doubles in 1956. For the rest of his career, he had no extra-base hits, which (along with his last four hits of '56) gave him 60 singles in a row. Don't know if he's the leader, though.
   16. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: July 03, 2014 at 05:20 PM (#4742865)
The Game of 7/2/84 was a matchup of a former ERA titlist and a future (several-time) ERA titlist, neither of whom was terribly impressive in the '84 season itself or in this game. Very impressive in this game, on the other hand, were the two leadoff hitters, both of whom tied career-highs in the categories for which they are best known (they would each later exceed the marks they equaled in this one, but not for a couple years or more).
   17. Mike Emeigh Posted: July 03, 2014 at 06:07 PM (#4742881)
Joey Gallo is now striking out in 42% of his plate appearances (since his promotion) and hitting .297. Some how. That's incredible. If the ball goes fair, it's probably a hit. If my math is right, he's made 17 outs in play since getting promoted. To go along with 22 hits and 36 strike outs.


86 PA at AA:
11 BB, 36 K, 8 HR, 1 HBP = 56 not in play so
30 BIP, 14 hits, .467 BABIP

If you put the HR in he's 22/38 on contact, .579 with six doubles and 8 HR so 1.368 SLG on contact.

He's basically going to have to keep that up at every level.

-- MWE
   18. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: July 03, 2014 at 07:19 PM (#4742925)
The Game of 7/2/14 was a good one for players having bad years - eight of the nine runs were driven in by players with OBPs of .320 or lower and SLGs below .380, and only one of those players has the excuse of being a pitcher. Also, one of the teams involved takes over the top spot in excitement for the 2014 season to date, albeit by a small and potentially highly temporary margin.
   19. Born1951 Posted: July 03, 2014 at 07:30 PM (#4742933)
Here are the longest streaks of hits all being singles I could find, may have missed some.

60 Bob Buhl 6-12-56 to 9-25-66
57 Max Lanier 4-30-38 to 8-17-44
57 Juan Pierre 8-11-00 to 10-1-00
56 Jerry Remy 5-19-80 to 5-16-81
55 Brett Butler 6-6-91 to 7-23-91

The longest for Ichiro! was 47, from 5-6-09 to 6-3-09
The longest for Babe Ruth was 12, from 5-2-33 to 5-22-33
   20. Ziggy Posted: July 03, 2014 at 08:09 PM (#4742959)
If he's going to continue striking out 42% of the time he'll need to keep doing that. His other option, of course, is to stop striking out so d@mn much. His rate was (a little) more sane in A-ball, and he's still only in his age 20 season. Plenty of time to learn to lay off of slides out of the zone, or whatever his problem is.

Interesting and true fact: Gallo, Kris Bryant and Bryce Harper are all from Las Vegas. Gallo is 20, Harper is 21 and Bryant is 22. It's not like I have any inside information on this, but they must have known each other growing up. Three elite power hitters, from the same place, of roughly the same age. And Vegas isn't even that big of a place. Probably made for some crazy little league games.
   21. Moeball Posted: July 03, 2014 at 08:12 PM (#4742964)
Cesar Tovar is one of 13 players (since 1916) to pitch and catch in the same game. The list:

Jake Elmore, Jeff Mathis, Rob Johnson, Jamie Burke, Wiki Gonzalez, Shane Halter, Scott Sheldon, Rick Dempsey, Rick Cerone, Jeff Newman, Cesar Tovar, Bert Campaneris, Dee Moore.


Campaneris was actually a pretty good player and Dempsey was a decent catcher. The rest of the list looks rather...well, let's put it this way - did any of these guys ever get a 1st place MVP vote denying a unanimous vote to the greatest season any position player ever had since a guy named Babe Ruth?

Oh, that's right - Tovar got a first place MVP vote in 1967 for his stellar .267/.325/.365/.691 slash line with his 97 OPS+. Given that his fielding was actually below average, although he did play several positions - he was barely an average major league player that season.

Apparently it was his versatility that swayed a Minnesota writer to conclude that Tovar, and not that Yastrzemski guy in Boston, was the league's MVP.

It boggles the mind...
   22. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: July 03, 2014 at 08:16 PM (#4742966)
Willie Bloomquist hit 45 singles and one double in 2008. Not sure how many singles he tacked on at the end of 2007 or the beginning of 2009, though.
   23. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: July 03, 2014 at 08:34 PM (#4742977)
Hey Red Sox fans,

I just watched an episode of Pawn Stars where a guy tried to sell a 2004 Red Sox championship ring belonging to Brandon Puffer, supposedly one of 51 player rings made. The name didn't ring a bell, so I checked BB-Ref, and sure enough he had no appearances for the team, and his player page does not show a stint with the Sox. However, only 50 players are listed on the 2004 squad. Any ideas how he might have gotten a ring? His name was on it, so it wasn't a mistake.
   24. Mike Emeigh Posted: July 04, 2014 at 12:47 AM (#4743087)
Famously terrible hitter Bob Buhl had two doubles in 1956. For the rest of his career, he had no extra-base hits, which (along with his last four hits of '56) gave him 60 singles in a row. Don't know if he's the leader, though.


Since 1950, he is.

Bob Buhl 60
Juan Pierre 58
Jerry Remy 58
Horace Clarke 55
Brett Butler 55
Tim Foli 50
Steve Sax 50

33 players have at least one streak of 40 consecutive singles, including Ichiro. Butler and Remy had two.

Willie Bloomquist's streak was 45 consecutive singles, extending from 7/15/2007 through 7/10/2008. Bloomquist had a double in the second inning of the 7/15/2007, followed by two singles, and ended the streak in the 7/10/2008 game with a ninth-inning double, his second hit of that game; he'd add a single later, which started a new streak of 23 straight.

-- MWE
   25. Born1951 Posted: July 04, 2014 at 03:37 AM (#4743121)
Thanks for the list Mike. I realize now some of my numbers were off because after getting the EBH=0 streaks from PI, I forgot to look at the games before and after. After checking this for Max Lanier, his streak remains at 57.
   26. vortex of dissipation Posted: July 04, 2014 at 05:48 AM (#4743126)
I just watched an episode of Pawn Stars where a guy tried to sell a 2004 Red Sox championship ring belonging to Brandon Puffer, supposedly one of 51 player rings made. The name didn't ring a bell, so I checked BB-Ref, and sure enough he had no appearances for the team, and his player page does not show a stint with the Sox. However, only 50 players are listed on the 2004 squad. Any ideas how he might have gotten a ring? His name was on it, so it wasn't a mistake.


http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2013/08/a_red_sox_2004_series_ring_up_for_grabs.html

Brandon Puffer, a righthanded relief pitcher, never played a game for the 2004 Red Sox. But he was given a World Series ring and that valuable piece of jewelry will be the centerpiece of a popular television show tonight.

Here's the story behind the story:

Puffer was acquired from the San Diego Padres on July 2 that season. The Sox also obtained lefthander Jimmy Anderson that day and decided to send Puffer to Triple A Pawtucket.

Puffer pitched credibly for Pawtucket and was summoned to the majors on Sept. 2. Puffer did not get in the game and was designated for assignment the next day because the Sox wanted outfielder Adam Hyzdu on the roster.

Despite not actually playing in a game, Puffer was on the roster for a day and was given a ring. The 18-carat white gold ring was encrusted with diamonds and adorned with a ruby "B."

   27. BDC Posted: July 04, 2014 at 11:23 AM (#4743172)
A great story. But now I'm sad that Puffer had to sell his ring. Some Googling suggests that he's been in a good bit of trouble with the law, possibly provoking the sale (and reducing the value) of the memorabilia.
   28. BDC Posted: July 04, 2014 at 11:53 AM (#4743178)
And then there's this from yesterday's Tiger win over Tampa Bay:

The first seven spots of Tampa Bay’s batting order, listed by position, went CF-SS-LF-3B-1B-DH-RF — or 8-6-7-5-3-0-9. Maddon, the Rays’ quirky manager, called it a “Tommy Tutone lineup” before the game, in reference to that band’s early-80s hit “867-5309/Jenny.”


Man, it's hard enough trying to follow Repoz intros without baseball itself going in for this stuff.

   29. BDC Posted: July 05, 2014 at 08:44 AM (#4743823)
More Adrian Beltre milestones in another Ranger loss on the Fourth of July: with five total bases, he passes Jeff Kent for 66th career and a nice round 4,250. His home run passes Dwight Evans for 59th all-time (386), and with two base hits he passes Joe Morgan for 94th (2,518) on that leaderboard. Morgan, for various reasons, didn't have a "lot" of hits for a 20-year inner-circle Hall of Famer, but still, that's awfully impressive, to pass Joe Morgan on any career list.

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